kuwala

I would say the video is not a complete win for the gamers, Because that gamer guy came off as a retarted. He was very angry and short tempered.

How can any of you truly believe that violent games don't cause violentce. Its a known fact that children adopt to their inviroments. And some violent games give them the message that its okay to do some things like kill people and not have value of life. Parents need to take responsibily to limit their childrens exposure, and some violent games like Half Life are not as bad.

But even adults will adopt to things and will feel different twords different things. Its all about the moderation, and compliation of things. How you put your self together.

Im sure if you keep reading violent books you will feel differenlty about violence too. Its not just games.

Any ways I been playing violent games since I was 10, its all how you play them and how you parents explain them to you.

Kids in general are too young to know the meaning and value of life. They don't have to play a video game or watch a movie to be violent. Yeah, it might be a fact that children adopt to their environments but there has never been enough significant results to prove that violent video games influence them. Like how in SOME experiments, smoking does not cause lung cancer. Don't believe me? Google on it or do some research on me. That is how some tobacco companies get away from being sued in the ass.

Parents and other human beings have a much larger impact on a child's tendency to be violent or not. Parents just find something else to blame for their failure to be a good father or/and mother. A child's cruelty is the purest form of cruelty because they don't fully comprehend the nature of morality.

unfateful

Parents and other human beings have a much larger impact on a child's tendency to be violent or not. Parents just find something else to blame for their failure to be a good father or/and mother. A child's cruelty is the purest form of cruelty because they don't fully comprehend the nature of morality.

Thats exactly what I was thinking about. You can't just blame a videogame or music video ect, everytime someone gets shot. For god sake how about trying to figure out what drove them to actually commiting the act. I've been playing the most violent games since, well forever and I know kids that are about 10 years old, that play worse games then me. Hell go on CounterStrike (source or 1.6) and you find most of the good players are 10! and that game is just endless shooting, with real ife physics and guns. And the kids I know are some of the nices kids in the world (siblings of friends i dont actually hang out wit 10 year olds) so its definately not the video game. Its only the people playing them, and how thier life is outside of the gameing.

Lol wow...
umm...I'd definantly go with what others say on... THATS WHAT THE RATING IS FOR!

and...it is the parents fault for just raiseing the kid wrong...and/or letting them play such games.
seriously, you can see its rated...just follow the rating.
Anyways...violence isn't influenced by games...

Terra517

Anyways...violence isn't influenced by games...

It's also influenced by movies and books. I will agree with everyone here that a parent has some of relevance in what a kid plays. But, I won't say it's just parents. It also depends on whoever plays games. When I heard the thing about Doom thing, that really pissed me off XD . I will also agree with Adam as well. There was violence before videogames ever came out. So the guy saying games are to blame is complete bs. He's just there looking for ways to get more money is all.

All in all, i'm not sure if video-games affect children or not. Probably not. If they're playing violent games in the first place, then the violence has most likely probably already some from somewhere else. Yes there are ratings on games for reasons, and its up to parents to make sure that stay involved with what their children are into.
I do, however, find it particularly disturbing when i walk in on a child playing grand theft auto, sleeping with a prostitute, and then pushing her outside, and running over her multiple times a tad bit disturbing.
I feel that parents who let their children play these types of games are not teaching them good values.

I'm pretty much stating what other members already have said. You have parents who buy games for their kids with ratings that specifically says it for mature players only, but then some of them turn around and blame the suppliers or game companies for corrupting the morals of minors. If these people are too stupid or illiterate to read the warning labels, then that is not the fault or responsibility of the game suppliers. It's the parents job to regulate what their kids play, not the merchants or even the government. I personally wouldn't let my kids play games like GTA or Resident Evil (if I had kids that is), but thats just me.

If the government had their way, we'd be playing games like "Stack The Cardboard Boxes." If a video game has violent elements in it, then GET OVER IT. Instead of putting all this money into getting rid of these games, why don't you use that money and do something USEFUL with it, like DECREASE POVERTY.

I like...violence but not extreme violence ^^

We can say what welike but kids will play violent games no matter what, just like you cant stop a kid from exploring sex. both are bad at a young age, i mean we are constantly exposed to violence like movie trailers for rated are movies. we cant stop them, you just gotta learn "it's only a game, not real" and get of your ass and explore the world outside the the 4 walls of your room. you wont beleive the stuff you see there. still that game saints row is pretty violent, but its all fantasy even though stuff like that happens. so shit happens just learn how to wipe it off.

cheers

Well this problem is a never ending discussion. It's all depended on those certain factors:

-what kinda Character each child has
-education methods of the parents
-society in which kids live in
-how good and especially how much time parents can spend with their kids to teach them certain values in life...

Referring to the last one above, you can't blame the parents alone,... as well as to blame the Game Companies which produce those Action Games,... I mean parents have to work all day long and barely have time just on a weekend. And the thing is... parents in normal jobs don't earn much money, so they actually have no other choice than to work all day and are too busy earning the money for themselves and their children that they just don't have the time to watch their younglings who play those games or either do other (dangerous) things... Those children are actually on their own, but some of them get over it and do part time jobs besides school, rather than... videogaming ^-^-^-^

I think IMO it's today's social situation that makes things unbalanced in every aspect. But those politicians are just too selfish to realize their political mistakes and blame other societies and companies for the mistakes... like the Video-gamebranch in our case!

Maybe they just want to put the blame to other things or in some ways take the fun out of kids or young people who enjoy playing games. Just because they don't find it educational they look down on it, maybe teachers influence these people sheesh. I enjoy playing violent games but hey I never resulted to killing or even doing acts of violence. I take it out on drawings or watch violent movies but never in ways to harm people. If I were them why don't they just focus on the real problem like drugs and even smoking which can really be dangerous.

CCSchlueter

People are idiots. Games have ratings for a reason. If you're dumb enough to let your ten year old have M rated games, that's your problem. I remember in a Computer Ethics class, there was a debate over the fact that two thirteen year olds were shooting at cars from an overpass and that they got the idea from GTA: Vice City. Was the game to blame? My bigger question is how did the kids get the guns in the first place? Thompson can talk about how kids "trained" to shoot people by playing Doom, but if America wasn't the land where guns are readily available to just about anybody than it wouldn't have mattered.

Couldn't agree more. Very well said.

What about sports games? Sports games are at least as popular if not more so than violent games and yet there aren't record numbers of kids getting out of the houses and playing real sports.

The majority of people who play sports games already have an interest in sports making the increase (if any) nominal

Games are not to blame for violence. It's the people that think they can go and do these things that's the problem. Thinking you can do something that you saw in a video game is like seeing a bird fly and then trying to do it by jumping off the top of a tall building.

And then there's the old standby that parents should watch what their kids are doing instead of taking the easy way out and saying "Video games induce violence! Blah, blah blah!"

Being an RPG fan I'm very sensitive about this topic. You don't hear people saying Bugs Bunny has violence because it's cartoon violence, which a lot of games have. It's just silly little things like getting hit by a fan or something.