Morality in Code Geass?
Lelouch and Suzaku, both of them have their wrongs and rights. However, both of them have killed people(through their own actions or their words). You wouldn't actually say their actions are purely moral or justice or stuffs like that. Taking people lives for their justice, I don't really like it. But if the enemies are the Britannia, then you'll have to take the hard road, either rebel or be their dogs.
Lelouch's ways are more realistic, in my opinion. I mean, maybe it's not Britannia who's really the bad guy, it's the Emperor. One glance on him, i knew he's totally Hitler. He doesn't really care when Clovis and Euphemia are dead. He's more like, "Okay, less particapants. The results of the game is near." I wouldn't blame on Lelouch if he chose to be a rebel leader. Besides, he's doing it for Nunally (and find out the truth about his mother's death. Something's really wrong about it too.) Although Lelouch got the big slap on his face when Nunally said she didn't approve of Zero's actions. But as we see now, Lelouch still keep going as the Zero Nunally disapprove, not just for her anymore but he has finally considered his friends and Japan itself. If Nunally ever find this one out, she'll most likely blame herself for those who die because of Lelouch's rebellion activities and also him sacrificing his friendship with Suzaku.
Okay, that's a bit off topic. Zero's actions are saving the Japanese's pride, and also crushing Britannia's reputation (plus angering Euphie's fans)
And how about Suzaku? I'm pretty sure most people would approve of his way. He would choose to change Britannia from the inside and accept the fact that Japan will mark him as a big traitor in their history book 10 years later. It's nice that he'd choose to change the world from the inside, but his ways are no less better than Lelouch's methods. Seriously, he killed his father. Okay, at least he's doing it to lessen the casualties. He felt guilty for it too and never consider it as justice. But I say, he's much more stubborn than Lelouch. He thought his method is the best and he would do anything to get a pretty position in Britannia including selling out his best friend because he's Zero and Zero killed his beloved Euphemia (Can't he use his brain and consider what will happen if Euphie was let running amok? Lelouch didn't even planning to use his Geass on her! Even if Lelouch stop her without killing her, I wouldn't guarantee she would be strong enough to keep her head strong)
Lelouch's ways are more realistic, in my opinion. I mean, maybe it's not Britannia who's really the bad guy, it's the Emperor. One glance on him, i knew he's totally Hitler. He doesn't really care when Clovis and Euphemia are dead. He's more like, "Okay, less particapants. The results of the game is near." I wouldn't blame on Lelouch if he chose to be a rebel leader. Besides, he's doing it for Nunally (and find out the truth about his mother's death. Something's really wrong about it too.) Although Lelouch got the big slap on his face when Nunally said she didn't approve of Zero's actions. But as we see now, Lelouch still keep going as the Zero Nunally disapprove, not just for her anymore but he has finally considered his friends and Japan itself. If Nunally ever find this one out, she'll most likely blame herself for those who die because of Lelouch's rebellion activities and also him sacrificing his friendship with Suzaku.
Okay, that's a bit off topic. Zero's actions are saving the Japanese's pride, and also crushing Britannia's reputation (plus angering Euphie's fans)
And how about Suzaku? I'm pretty sure most people would approve of his way. He would choose to change Britannia from the inside and accept the fact that Japan will mark him as a big traitor in their history book 10 years later. It's nice that he'd choose to change the world from the inside, but his ways are no less better than Lelouch's methods. Seriously, he killed his father. Okay, at least he's doing it to lessen the casualties. He felt guilty for it too and never consider it as justice. But I say, he's much more stubborn than Lelouch. He thought his method is the best and he would do anything to get a pretty position in Britannia including selling out his best friend because he's Zero and Zero killed his beloved Euphemia (Can't he use his brain and consider what will happen if Euphie was let running amok? Lelouch didn't even planning to use his Geass on her! Even if Lelouch stop her without killing her, I wouldn't guarantee she would be strong enough to keep her head strong)
1 year 5 months ago
Well, this is a really complicated stuff, but what I think Suzaku failed to realize is that just because it's a law or flowing the law, doesn't mean it's always right. Lelouch knew he couldn't defeat the enemy by joining it, (it would simply take too long) so Lelouch created a new evil in order to conquer the current evil. But I think Britainnia's law is to harsh. If only the emperor had visited Nannally at the hospital during the event in Aerial's palace and the fact that Marianne hadn't died. This will all been avoided. (Then there will be no CG T-T)
Anyway, on how the laws were built on CG, I wouldn't blame Lelouch or Suzaku for their action. I would lean toward more with Lelouch's action. Brintainnia's wish is to conquer the world and leave other countries or its people in poverty. Does Suzaku really support this?
Well I hope that made sense. LOL
Anyway, on how the laws were built on CG, I wouldn't blame Lelouch or Suzaku for their action. I would lean toward more with Lelouch's action. Brintainnia's wish is to conquer the world and leave other countries or its people in poverty. Does Suzaku really support this?
Well I hope that made sense. LOL
Hmmm...can you say "Good night sweet prince"?WeaverLelouch, in his determination to destroy the Empire of Britannia, is willing to use any means necessary at his disposal to do so.
Code geass, more than any other series i have seen explores the grey area. lelouch, while hardly evil, is not a nice person to deal with. euphemia was a trgic mistake. suzaku's methods sound better, but in practice they are not as effective. and he sold out his friend. no, that's not good.
1 year 5 months ago
I think that Suzaku would be better off had Lelouch told him of the plans he had. Suzaku did not care the least about why Lelouch did what he did when he apprehended him and handed him over to the emperor. All he thought about was delivering justice for Euphemia's death.
1 year 4 months ago
I think Lelouch is more effective in his means beccause he does'nt just massacre the enemy all Suzaku does is kill people who are the enemy of britannia wich means he's mainly killing his own people and this is preventing any change in the system at all wich completely defeats the purpse of his philosophy also he said he joined the military to save people not kill them but most of the Lancelot system are destructive enough to kill the piolet when destroying a Knightmare and finally while Lelouch actually questions his killings but he doesnt deny what he's doing is wrong Suzaku just keeps hiding behind the same excuse of doing what's best for the system not the individual.
1 year 3 months ago
I think that atleast from my moral standing ground that lelouch is correct in his actions even if sometimes it can seem rather cruel from other peoples view, for example : killing his own half brother in the first or second episode of season 1, but if you consider what he had done before lelouch kills him then in my eyes and probably many other peoples eyes he is correct in killing him.
Even if he doesn't use the "right" way to do the things he do he atleast doesn't try to conquer the world and treat all who isn't of the same blood or country as him to obey him or be destroyed or tricking him self by saying i am doing this to repent my past sins or whatever, i can fully understand most of his choices but some of the are really just stupid ones that resulted from an event that caused a temporary braincrash.
I think suzaku completly wrong in his thinking about changing that country from the inside he thinks he is doing the morally right thing to do but how is he suppossed to fix things when that country doesn't even have morals.
But suzaku convinces himself that if he save his people by serving britannia a country without morals then he has redeemed himself.
but come on he kills more of his people than he saves, thats like totaly the opposite of what he is saying that he is trying to do.
And this might be a little late to say but when "zero" saves suzaku from being killed, suzaku should have served him no matter his standing or feeling towards zero, i think that returning the favor of saving his life by serving him is the right thing to do morally (atleast if you take into consideration that it is war), mabey not take a bullet or so for him but atleast serve him with loyality untill zero would have been killed.
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Even if he doesn't use the "right" way to do the things he do he atleast doesn't try to conquer the world and treat all who isn't of the same blood or country as him to obey him or be destroyed or tricking him self by saying i am doing this to repent my past sins or whatever, i can fully understand most of his choices but some of the are really just stupid ones that resulted from an event that caused a temporary braincrash.
I think suzaku completly wrong in his thinking about changing that country from the inside he thinks he is doing the morally right thing to do but how is he suppossed to fix things when that country doesn't even have morals.
But suzaku convinces himself that if he save his people by serving britannia a country without morals then he has redeemed himself.
but come on he kills more of his people than he saves, thats like totaly the opposite of what he is saying that he is trying to do.
And this might be a little late to say but when "zero" saves suzaku from being killed, suzaku should have served him no matter his standing or feeling towards zero, i think that returning the favor of saving his life by serving him is the right thing to do morally (atleast if you take into consideration that it is war), mabey not take a bullet or so for him but atleast serve him with loyality untill zero would have been killed.
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1 year 3 months ago
They are such a diffrent people, but I can't tell who of them is good and who is evil. It is like DeathNotes Light. He uses evil methods to create good world. Lulu and Suzaky are not classic bad guy and good guy, they are usual people who have good and bad sides
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the moralities of those 2 are so fucked up there is no WAY to justify what they've done. They're both screwed later on in life if they don't die.
the moralities of those 2 are so fucked up there is no WAY to justify what they've done. They're both screwed later on in life if they don't die.
1 year 3 months ago
In spanish:
En la vida real hay algunas cosas cuyo fin justifica los medios, sin embrago hay cosas que realmente no y definitivamente no. En el caso de Code Geass, creo que los métodos de Lelouch son válidos, ya que nos presenta al personaje y se nos dan a conocer sus ambiciones y justificaciones para hacer lo que hace.
En la vida real hay algunas cosas cuyo fin justifica los medios, sin embrago hay cosas que realmente no y definitivamente no. En el caso de Code Geass, creo que los métodos de Lelouch son válidos, ya que nos presenta al personaje y se nos dan a conocer sus ambiciones y justificaciones para hacer lo que hace.





