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Everyone hate Susaku?
1 year 1 month ago
Lol...Suzaku gets on my nerves sometimes.
He always goes on and on about loyalty, and changing things from WITHIN. In CG, im really confused about whether Lelouch is a good guy or not. Coz they all seem to have a bad side.
But Suzaku 'seems' to be a good guy, but for some unknown reason he REALLY gets on my nerves. Makes me angry.
He always goes on and on about loyalty, and changing things from WITHIN. In CG, im really confused about whether Lelouch is a good guy or not. Coz they all seem to have a bad side.
But Suzaku 'seems' to be a good guy, but for some unknown reason he REALLY gets on my nerves. Makes me angry.
For the longest time I've really hated Suzaku but until watching the last few episodes of R2, I didn't really fell that hatred. Maybe it was because I got to understand his views and the fact that Suzaku got to understand Lelouch's goals even if it was a little portion. I like the fact that they got back together again even though Lelouch made an agreement with Suzaku to put an end to Lelouch's life.
chiulIn CG, im really confused about whether Lelouch is a good guy or not.
Well, I believe that is the message of the Anime series. There is no good and evil in the world. Everything depends on the point of view you choose to see it.
How can anyone hate someone with such cute eyes? He's adorable! *O* And, of course, I can't hate anyone Lelouch likes ^x^ xD
Now, seriously speaking, I understood why people hate Suzaku when I saw R2, but at the same time I saw him making the same kind of mistakes Lelouch does. So why hate Suzaku for doing what Lelouch did? If you like the way one works, you have to like the other. After all, they both did it for the same reason though from different fronts. Both of them made grave mistakes, and even Lelouch mistakes caused the death of much more people than everything Suzaku did. So why do you like Lelouch best? He can sacrifice people he loves even more easily and yet you blame Suzaku even more.
To me, both of them are great, both have great qualities and grave faults, and together they're unstoppable. So I prefer both of them together always.
As for a character I can't stand, that would be Rolo. Just because he's a friggin stupid traumatized kid. Just my own opinion.
Now, seriously speaking, I understood why people hate Suzaku when I saw R2, but at the same time I saw him making the same kind of mistakes Lelouch does. So why hate Suzaku for doing what Lelouch did? If you like the way one works, you have to like the other. After all, they both did it for the same reason though from different fronts. Both of them made grave mistakes, and even Lelouch mistakes caused the death of much more people than everything Suzaku did. So why do you like Lelouch best? He can sacrifice people he loves even more easily and yet you blame Suzaku even more.
To me, both of them are great, both have great qualities and grave faults, and together they're unstoppable. So I prefer both of them together always.
As for a character I can't stand, that would be Rolo. Just because he's a friggin stupid traumatized kid. Just my own opinion.
tiljabut at the same time I saw him making the same kind of mistakes Lelouch does. So why hate Suzaku for doing what Lelouch did?
reply to Tilja : thanks you a lot, you exactly pointed how i felt about this irrational hatred developed towards Susaku, and pointed the same way i believe things were in the anime, haha cute eyes you say, well, he looks cool yeah like Lelouch, true i prefer Lelouch ways cause they were, low, yet, extreme, and unexpected most of the time, which is what i try to bring in my life everyday, bring ahead what people expects less of me, I surprised many with that set on mind haha anyways back to the topic, Lelouch next to Susaku, to me, they both had the same ways, but just on different sides, it's like, two people, using same types of cars, just that, one went on the right, and another on the left >_<
Cause all that I ask for Is turning to ashes
When all of my passion Crumbles around me
Im still ganna get to All that surrounds me
When everything comes down There's nothing to die for
1 year 1 month ago
Maverickslayer
tiljabut at the same time I saw him making the same kind of mistakes Lelouch does. So why hate Suzaku for doing what Lelouch did?
reply to Tilja : thanks you a lot, you exactly pointed how i felt about this irrational hatred developed towards Susaku, and pointed the same way i believe things were in the anime, haha cute eyes you say, well, he looks cool yeah like Lelouch, true i prefer Lelouch ways cause they were, low, yet, extreme, and unexpected most of the time, which is what i try to bring in my life everyday, bring ahead what people expects less of me, I surprised many with that set on mind haha anyways back to the topic, Lelouch next to Susaku, to me, they both had the same ways, but just on different sides, it's like, two people, using same types of cars, just that, one went on the right, and another on the left >_<
Lulu honestly feels terrible about what he's done after the Japan incident, Suzaku just changes his self sense of justice to "only the result matters" which is against what he believed in the whole show.
^HOw come so many people says that... did you guys pay attention to R2 at all? O_o or maybe you guys forgot about the turning point because episodes became more crazy
read below at my 2nd comment about his change
first one
suzaku has betrayed lulu's trust... well as someone else stated this was probably due to the fact lulu killed euphy... lulu never got to explain the situation so to suzaku its like lulu betraying japan by using euphy, manipulating her with geass and killing her to look like a hero... because by this point he learned about geass from VV... and didn't lulu know how much suzaku cared about euphy at the point? its like suzaku betraying lulu and doing something bad to nunally if you can see it that way... of course his emotion will be on a turmoil... once again lulu didn't even try to explain the situation so -_-
i can explain the 2nd one
do you remember what happened in that episode when suzaku thought he killed nunally? his view changed totally and completely... he was trying so hard to use his "right" method to change the world but look what happened? in the end its the result that mattered and he knew what he did was something he can never take back... i think that was a point when he understood lulu a bit better also in using his geass and such... thus he went through his maniac laughter moment and totally told nina off with her crazy wep production... thus sort of new suzaku was born ^^ and he went and tried to kill the emperor himself if you guys remember... he changed drastically from the usage of that bomb against his will killing massive amount of people...
read below at my 2nd comment about his change
Kaia-Chan
Except of that Lelouch lovers issue, I believe there are also other reasons why people hate Suzaku. I point out my personal reasons why "I could hate him", but I do not. 1. Suzaku has betrayed Lelouch's trust. Although Suzaku sells him to the emperor, Lelouch still thinks of Suzaku as friend. However, Suzaku did not even think to forgive him at first. 2. Zero has saved his life, but Suzaku refuses to join force with him, because he thinks that Zero uses the wrong methods. Then suddenly he says in R2 that not the methods, but the results are important.Maverickslayerwhy do everyone hate Susaku?
first one
suzaku has betrayed lulu's trust... well as someone else stated this was probably due to the fact lulu killed euphy... lulu never got to explain the situation so to suzaku its like lulu betraying japan by using euphy, manipulating her with geass and killing her to look like a hero... because by this point he learned about geass from VV... and didn't lulu know how much suzaku cared about euphy at the point? its like suzaku betraying lulu and doing something bad to nunally if you can see it that way... of course his emotion will be on a turmoil... once again lulu didn't even try to explain the situation so -_-
i can explain the 2nd one
do you remember what happened in that episode when suzaku thought he killed nunally? his view changed totally and completely... he was trying so hard to use his "right" method to change the world but look what happened? in the end its the result that mattered and he knew what he did was something he can never take back... i think that was a point when he understood lulu a bit better also in using his geass and such... thus he went through his maniac laughter moment and totally told nina off with her crazy wep production... thus sort of new suzaku was born ^^ and he went and tried to kill the emperor himself if you guys remember... he changed drastically from the usage of that bomb against his will killing massive amount of people...
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^HOw come so many people says that... did you guys pay attention to R2 at all? O_o or maybe you guys forgot about the turning point because episodes became more crazy
read below at my 2nd comment about his change
Kaia-Chan
Except of that Lelouch lovers issue, I believe there are also other reasons why people hate Suzaku. I point out my personal reasons why "I could hate him", but I do not. 1. Suzaku has betrayed Lelouch's trust. Although Suzaku sells him to the emperor, Lelouch still thinks of Suzaku as friend. However, Suzaku did not even think to forgive him at first. 2. Zero has saved his life, but Suzaku refuses to join force with him, because he thinks that Zero uses the wrong methods. Then suddenly he says in R2 that not the methods, but the results are important.Maverickslayerwhy do everyone hate Susaku?
first one
suzaku has betrayed lulu's trust... well as someone else stated this was probably due to the fact lulu killed euphy... lulu never got to explain the situation so to suzaku its like lulu betraying japan by using euphy, manipulating her with geass and killing her to look like a hero... because by this point he learned about geass from VV... and didn't lulu know how much suzaku cared about euphy at the point? its like suzaku betraying lulu and doing something bad to nunally if you can see it that way... of course his emotion will be on a turmoil... once again lulu didn't even try to explain the situation so -_-
i can explain the 2nd one
do you remember what happened in that episode when suzaku thought he killed nunally? his view changed totally and completely... he was trying so hard to use his "right" method to change the world but look what happened? in the end its the result that mattered and he knew what he did was something he can never take back... i think that was a point when he understood lulu a bit better also in using his geass and such... thus he went through his maniac laughter moment and totally told nina off with her crazy wep production... thus sort of new suzaku was born ^^ and he went and tried to kill the emperor himself if you guys remember... he changed drastically from the usage of that bomb against his will killing massive amount of people...
Oh thank you Eddo-Kun. Really thank you.
I think a lot of people only care about Lulu and what he is doing, thus they forget and make other statments about Suzaku.
So like I said before, I'm sure Suzaku didn't believe what he said when he tells that "only results matter". Look, he couldn't fight against the curse of Lelouch's geass and droped the bomb. When he did it, I think he understood that nothing is possible to fight against, so why should he cry ? The only thing to do is to take this other burden on his shoulders and go on. Don't forget when this scene happened he tought that it was his end, Kallen will take him down and he was ready to die instead to launch the bomb. He was ready to give his life one more time for the sake of the others.
He never changed his way of thinking for me. Even the "coup d'etat" can be consider like the continuation of his toughts: take down the emperor, source of the suffer of every people, to put another who will change Britannia. Suzaku never intend to erase Britannia.
Another I'd like to point out is that when I read the previous posts, I saw a lot of people speaking about mistakes Suzaku would have done. But nobody tell them explicitly ? So what was these serious mistakes he made which push you to hate him so much of think that it would be a character to be hatred ?
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I think Maverickslayer you misunderstood the post of eddokun because he repeated the statements of the others to do a little summary with a hint of irony xD.
Maybe I'm wrong. But all the tihngs Eddokun said were against these statements to prove that the previous cases against Suzaku are wrong.
Eddokun doesn't hate Suzaku, on the contrary =)
Maybe I'm wrong. But all the tihngs Eddokun said were against these statements to prove that the previous cases against Suzaku are wrong.
Eddokun doesn't hate Suzaku, on the contrary =)
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eddokun^HOw come so many people says that... did you guys pay attention to R2 at all? O_o or maybe you guys forgot about the turning point because episodes became more crazy read below at my 2nd comment about his change
I said it before. That MIGHT be reasons why I could hate Suzaku. However, I do not hate him, because I know what he had to go through.
I only wanted to give other explanations why people COULD hate him, excluded me.
However, thank you for commenting my post.
1 year 1 month ago
Firstly i thought that when Kallen "killed" him at the final battle, i was so happy. Sadly it wasnt true.
Very interesting comment -__-;
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Ooops, then sorry eddokun, I got your comment wrong haha,thanks will for correcting me, hmm which comments did you found interesting? the one about when kallen killed him? was he referring to Susaku?
Cause all that I ask for Is turning to ashes
When all of my passion Crumbles around me
Im still ganna get to All that surrounds me
When everything comes down There's nothing to die for
The boy was way too backward in coming forward to me. He always chose the easy way out and it was disgusting to watch. I can't stand people with his characteristics, he remind of those god awful self indulge super religious jacka--es. I won't get any more specific than that cause I don't want to stir up anything bad or stray too far from the topic. Did he redeem himself at the end of the show? No, not in my opinion. It's good to have characters like him though, it helps to stir up angry emotions and thus keeps me interested in the show. Susaku was useless completely useless in my opinion and I don't care how good of a pilot he was, I'm talking about friendship wise.
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^can you get anymore specific than that seriously? because the way suzaku chose was it really easy in any way? did any britannians see him as one of them? didn't you see how he was treated? O_o yet he endured it trying to change the world from the inside out... on the contrary lulu did the exact opposite... like i said they are like polar opposite yet similar they have their strong points in different things and combined they were great right? suzaku was the only person that stopped lulu for so long... as for friendship wise what was wrong with him? O_o before he knew lulu was zero he was still a great friend... and like i explained before lulu killed euphy and did not explain himself nor did he try to explain the geass situation... so im guessing that makes lulu totally the best in the friendship wise? O_o
like i said i like lulu better because i like his characteristics but i like suzaku also and seeing people hating suzaku just because he gets in the way of lulu irks me... unless someone can give me a solid reason... it just sounds like the reason is he makes lulu's plan fail omg must hate
oh ya btw thanks will lol eh im a girl though as you can see from my claim banner lol xD and i wasn't quoting maverick it was kaia-chan that said those 2 statements
like i said i like lulu better because i like his characteristics but i like suzaku also and seeing people hating suzaku just because he gets in the way of lulu irks me... unless someone can give me a solid reason... it just sounds like the reason is he makes lulu's plan fail omg must hate
oh ya btw thanks will lol eh im a girl though as you can see from my claim banner lol xD and i wasn't quoting maverick it was kaia-chan that said those 2 statements
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