Doomvoodooo

I think ill join in as well.

Thank you for joining us, but...
Now we are there where we have started...

Yeah, unfortunately. Well I really can't some with an interesting topic.

How about comparing the sound episodes with the general episodes?

The sound episodes in R1 are mostly the events that happened before the series begin or some things that weren't shown in the show but still related to it.

While R2's... (O_O)
Almost all of them had nothing to do with the main story. The most probable canon ones are Beauty Rebellion, Part-time Jobs that Lelouch Shouldn't Do and The First meeting with the Demon

However they are truly cracks, leaving me laughing like a lunatic (>_<)
CG doesn't really need gag fanfics for those Sound Episodes existence lol...

ROLililala1618

The sound episodes in R1 are mostly the events that happened before the series begin or some things that weren't shown in the show but still related to it.

Yes, this is true. However, there are still some facts which made me wonder.
For example: Euphemia said that she has never met Clovis in person before.However, in one Sound episode *have forgotten the number and the name* Schneizel, Cornelia, Clovis and Euphy were together and discussed who should become the governor of Area 11. In other words, Euphy has met Clovis in that time.
So, why did she say in the main story that she has not met him before?

ROLililala1618

While R2's... (O_O) Almost all of them had nothing to do with the main story. The most probable canon ones are Beauty Rebellion, Part-time Jobs that Lelouch Shouldn't Do and The First meeting with the Demon

I have not listened to the R2 Sound episodes yet. I tried, really. However, they sounded that absurd that I needed a break.

ROLililala1618

However they are truly cracks, leaving me laughing like a lunatic (>_<) CG doesn't really need gag fanfics for those Sound Episodes existence lol...

Well, I am glad that they have amused you. However, for me it was only ridiculous. This is the reason why I have decided to listen to the 1st season first and only to listen to R2 when I am really bored.

In Death Note, Light Yagami talks about how many people he plans on killing in order to make the world a better place, people that he deems unworthy of life and for lack of a better term 'bad.' Ryuk replies to him 'well once you've finished everyone off you'll be the only bad guy left.' My point is that Lelouchs goal was similar in that he wanted to rid the world of badness, once he had accomplished his goal he had to die or else he would be the only bad guy left. Another reason is that he wanted Zero to live on in a purer soul, i.e. Suzzaku. Throughout the anime Suzzaku never did anything for his own personal gain, he always did what he thought was right. Whereas Lelouch would sometimes sacrifice morals or principals to further his desires, and what he desired was in essence good, but his methods were bad. And so in order for Zero to be the righteous hero he was always meant to symbolize, Suzzaku had to take Lelouchs place and rally the masses under his purehearted leadership.

Ok, it seems as though none of you understand the ending. Firstly, let me tell you all that, indeed, Lelouch didn't die. Do you all remember that really confuzing bit in ep. 21 when he used his geass on the 'gods' and Charles disentigrated? Well, when Lelouch originally tried to kill Charles with his geass, he discovered that Charles had become invincible because he had taken V.V's code (the code is what makes you imortal, like C.C). Anyway, when Lelouch used the gods to kill Charles and his mother, Lelouch inherited the code, thus he because invincible. He also became the first person to have the code and the geass at the same time. If you look how the story progresses after ep. 21, then you see that Lelouch starts taking over the world and making everyone angry at him. This is because he knows that by carrying out his plan, the world will be errased of evil (that he had accumulated) without himelf dying. Oh, and the Zero Requiem was only the agreement that he made with Suzaku, to ensure the plan was carried out correctly.

Hope I cleared up some confusion. Unfortunently, it also seems that many of you liked the ending because you didn't know if he died or not. Sadly for you, that's not the case.

ZelozX

Ok, it seems as though none of you understand the ending. Firstly, let me tell you all that, indeed, Lelouch didn't die.

Very well, I wished that this topic would not appear again, but fine.
I will accept that you want Lelouch to be alive, but there is no real proof behind it.

ZelozX

Do you all remember that really confuzing bit in ep. 21 when he used his geass on the 'gods' and Charles disentigrated? Well, when Lelouch originally tried to kill Charles with his geass, he discovered that Charles had become invincible because he had taken V.V's code (the code is what makes you imortal, like C.C). Anyway, when Lelouch used the gods to kill Charles and his mother, Lelouch inherited the code, thus he because invincible.

I do not know if my theory is correct, but I do not think that Lelouch has become immortal by killing his parents with the gods.
In my point of view, Charles and Marianne did not die, but have been absorbed by the World of C. In other words, they became a part of the world or with the gods - the subconsciousness of humans' thoughts.

ZelozX

If you look how the story progresses after ep. 21, then you see that Lelouch starts taking over the world and making everyone angry at him. This is because he knows that by carrying out his plan, the world will be errased of evil (that he had accumulated) without himelf dying. Oh, and the Zero Requiem was only the agreement that he made with Suzaku, to ensure the plan was carried out correctly.

This statement does have a lot of flaws too.
Why would C.C. cry if Lelouch survived anyway? The reason may be that she has small regrets that Lelouch has to suffer the life of an immortal person. However, another reason is that C.C. knows that he is going to die.
Why would Suzaku cry if Lelouch survived?
Suzaku is not the type of person who would cry just by hurting his friend. He even stepped on him once. The only reason why he could cry is, because he killed his own friend.
Why did Nunnally cry?
Nunnally has seen the last memories of Lelouch. In other words, she would have known if Lelouch intended to die or to survive.

ZerozX

Hope I cleared up some confusion. Unfortunently, it also seems that many of you liked the ending because you didn't know if he died or not. Sadly for you, that's not the case.

Unfortunately, this is only your opinion and there is no real proof behind it. I cannot say that it is false too, but you cannot say either that it is like this.
However, like I said before, we will accept your opinion and your reason why you think so, but then please also accept that other people have different opinions too.

I loved the ending, one of the best I've seen yet. Lelouch said that Geass is like wishes so when Suzaku said "I accept that Geass" it simple means he accept Lelouch's wish. Also about CC talking to the person stirring the cart, its one of those things that keeps you suspended even though it ended. I would say this one is in the same rank as Death Note. Again one of the best Anime Serie I've watched.

Then why wouldn't they bother to show the cart driver's face? If it's just some random guy, we wouldn't mind to see his face and no one gonna say the possibility of lelouch's being alive.

Someone else once saying that Nunnally just kinda 'get' the idea of what Lelouch's doing. But why did the one happened in Akasha appear? I'm pretty sure it's some kind of memory transfer like what people had said over and over. Remembering Jeremiah kinda traumatized by the fact he failed to guard Marrianne that she got 'killed', I don't see how he can still smirk after Lelouch died. He should at least showed a bit sadness or frowned. If there's a genius who saw this, he/she might figure out that it's something the victim has planned.

Btw, talk about strange, how come no one realize that Lelouch was smiling while being stab by Zerozaku and even touched his face? There's about million of people there.

Kaia-Chan

Doomvoodooo

and The ending gave me chills (of the series) Because when I saw Nunnally hold Lelouch's hand crying. It was so sad.

I see, then it was a misunderstanding from me. I thought all of the episode endings gave you this feeling. Then, I agree with you. Strangely, Lelouch's death itself did not make me sad, but how Nunnally cried. Everyone screamed Zero, being glad that Lelouch is dead and she was the only one who cried for him (I have not forgotten Kallen, but she did not cry like Nunnally) and sad about his death.

I shed tears for that scene as well but for the most part it was the fact that Lelouch sacrificed his life so the world could begin healing on its own after his death. The thought of the world regarding him as a villainous name stirred me up because no one except Kallen, Nunnally, and Suzaku knew the true reason for his death.

IWantBeans

I shed tears for that scene as well but for the most part it was the fact that Lelouch sacrificed his life so the world could begin healing on its own after his death.

Isn't it "changing" and not "healing"? Lelouch's aim was to change the world after all.

IWantBeans

The thought of the world regarding him as a villainous name stirred me up because no one except Kallen, Nunnally, and Suzaku knew the true reason for his death.

The same goes for me too, but I have the feeling that Kaguya has noticed Lelouch's feelings too, because she looked at him shocked as Kallen did.

Actually, Lelouch is not died. You can see that at the final stage, C.C talks to someone at behind. It represents that Lelouch is not died and the died Lelouch is fake.

slcss2006

Actually, Lelouch is not died. You can see that at the final stage, C.C talks to someone at behind. It represents that Lelouch is not died and the died Lelouch is fake.

We will accept your opinion, but you cannot generalize it. There are a lot of reason why people think differently. Please read the old posts to receive the answers of those who believe that Lelouch is dead.

Bored, so I will just spike some theory.

This statement does have a lot of flaws too.
Why would C.C. cry if Lelouch survived anyway?

She's a damn good actor.

Why would Suzaku cry if Lelouch survived?....Why did Nunnally cry?

Lelouch master plan to trick everyone to think he's death, is for the best. Then retire with C.C. into the country side where no one will ever find them if lucky.