Well, sound like they dub the game, so Gensis voice isn't Gackt anymore... O'well. I've followed FF serie since FFII (I played on Famicon), but it's true that recently SE making a lot of follow-up serie of FFVII. But I think, almost all the companies has done those kind of things recently. I'm pretty sure you can name few others (capcom, Namco Bandai, Atari).

Sound like there are a lot of FFVII haters here... Sadly, I'm one of them. Don't point fingers yet! I'll be honest, I liked the FFVII on ps as story. BUT just couldn't love Cloud (Sorry Cloud fans). But I'm Zack fan! IMO, Zack is way cooler than Could... But that's just me.

@DZeroX - LOL, how many times did you beat the game? I had hard time re-clear all the missions again. Even I have almost all the items. It felt like it got HARDER... Or it's just me?

Deerstalker

Actually, I'll tell you the main reason I don't like this game, it's not actually written by the people who wrote Final Fantasy 7 so it's nothing more than forced fanfiction which messes with the main storyline.

Did I read that correctly? FFVII and FFVIICC wasn't written by same person? Ah.... You need your eyes to check. Here is the Fact of the Day for ya.

Final Fantasy VII (ps ver)
Hironobu Sakaguchi (producer)
Yoshinori Kitase (director, scenario writer)
Tetsuya Nomura (character designer, original scenario concept)
Kazushige Nojima (scenario writer, event planner)
Yoshitaka Amano (image illustrator, title logo designer)
Nobuo Uematsu (composer)

Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core (psp)
Yoshinori Kitase &
Shinji Hashimoto (executive producer)
Hajime Tabata (director)
Hideki Imaizumi (producer)
Tetsuya Nomura (character designer)
Kazushige Nojima (scenario writer)
Takeharu Ishimoto (composer)

So the ones I have bold it were working on both series. AND they were Director, Scenario Concept, and Scenario Writer. Mr. Nojima did both Scenario Writer. Unless they hired same first and last name Mr. Kazushige Nojima, my statement to be true. So your statement that saying that "...it's not actually written by the people who wrote Final Fantasy 7 so it's nothing more than forced fanfiction which messes with the main storyline." to be BS! Of course, you are more than welcome to correct me, if I'm wrong.

@ichitaka05: I only finished the game once, that was enough. Finding out that my missions got cleared at the end was really NOT amusing at all. And the fact that ALL of the missions are horribly the same, I really didn't feel like finishing the game one more time. Plus, since you know the story already, what's the point? It's not like Zack is going to stay alive after you finish the game again XD

@DZeroX - There isn't any point. I wanted to know, if you re-played the game.

ichitaka05

So your statement that saying that "...it's not actually written by the people who wrote Final Fantasy 7 so it's nothing more than forced fanfiction which messes with the main storyline." to be BS! Of course, you are more than welcome to correct me, if I'm wrong.

Okay pal, calm down. Let's not get too excited now. So it's written by the same guy who wrote the original game? Big whoop, does that suddenly make it stop feeling like someone's awful fanfiction played out? Nope. Does it mess with the storyline? Yes, making it all the more tragic.

LOL, sorry if I sound like all excited. It was funny to read your comment and couldn't stop laughing.

Anyways, I'm not picking a fight. Just stating the facts. Like I wrote b4. You're more than welcome to prove me wrong, with facts. So far, you have stated only your opinions and guesses, not the fact.

Here is the fact of the day for ya. Here is all the rating I can find on FFVIICC.
PSX Extreme - 9.8 out of 10 (98.0%)
GamePro - 4.75 out of 5 (95.0%)
RPGFan - 94 out of 100 (94.0%)
PlayStation: Official Mag (US) - 4.5 out of 5 (90.0%)
Gamervision - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Gamer 2.0 - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
RPGamer - 4.5 out of 5 (90.0%)
Play Magazine - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Kombo - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
GameSpot - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Thunderbolt - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Gaming Age - A- (90.0%)
GameZone - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
PSW Magazine (UK) - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Electronic Gaming Monthly - 86.67 out of 100 (86.7%)
Cheat Code Central - 4.3 out of 5 (86.0%)
GamerNode - 8.5 out of 10 (85.0%)
1UP - B+ (85.0%)
IGN - 8.5 out of 10 (85.0%)
GameTrailers - 8.4 out of 10 (84.0%)
GameAlmighty - 8.3 out of 10 (83.0%)
Game Revolution - B (80.0%)
Hooked Gamers - 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
GameTap - 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
GameSpy - 4 out of 5 (80.0%)
Gamers Temple - 76 out of 100 (76.0%)
Game Informer - 7.25 out of 10 (72.5%)
Pocket Gamer (UK) - 7 out of 10 (70.0%)
G4 - X-Play - 2 out of 5 (40.0%)

Average of 84.2%

K, just say you're right. If this game was based off some fanfiction. Man, SE was smart enough to use that fanfiction to give hella good score from almost every rating place I've search.
But hey, this is just a rating from... 29 game reviewers. Not the whole world, right? I'm pretty sure there are other game reviewers that have same idea as you.

btw, I got all those rating info from GameRanking. So if you don't believe me, check it out that site.

itchitaka05

btw, I got all those rating info from GameRanking. So if you don't believe me, check it out that site.

I actually put up a metacritics quote eariler with a similar statement =P.

However, let's try to focus on the game itself, rather than attacks. I know no harm is ment, but we are getting a bit off topic and after all, this thread is about discussing Crisis Core.

hugs08

Although you need a lot of practice to get the hang of the gameplay though..

Waaah? If you've played Kingdom Hearts, you can play this game. The gameplay is actually one of the things I really liked about CC. It was fast, controls felt rather responsive and aside from a sometimes clunky camera, it rocked my world. I suppose to each his/her own though, so I can understand that =D.

DzeroX

Well, I finished Crisis Core today, and overall, it was a good ride.

Glad to hear it. I haven't had much time to make any progression with the game, so it's really nice to see that through and through, it's a solid experience. I'm hoping to get some free time next week to possibly beat the game.

CrimsonCyanide

Waaah? If you've played Kingdom Hearts, you can play this game. The gameplay is actually one of the things I really liked about CC. It was fast, controls felt rather responsive and aside from a sometimes clunky camera, it rocked my world. I suppose to each his/her own though, so I can understand that =D.

My next mission is to get all the scenes to play. You know, the scenes when you go into "overdrive mode" (I forget what it's actually called, but it's kind of useful, especially when you end up with double HP). I like the realtime aspect of the fighting, but some parts were annoying. The camera wasn't too bad, except I did get trapped in a corner by a few enemies in the final level. Basically, I had to fight blind because there was no way to change the view so it worked.

ichitaka05

K, just say you're right. If this game was based off some fanfiction. Man, SE was smart enough to use that fanfiction to give hella good score from almost every rating place I've search.

You know what. I'm really bored of arguing my point because I'm tired of fighting a wave of die-hard fans on here. I've stated my opinion more than once and you people really can't accept it without jumping down my throat and shoving some kind of claim or piece of evidence to prove my "opinion" wrong.

Wow, 29 reviewers said it was great. That really speaks for the general consensus of the world. Yeah, it has its fans and those fans are the people that think the milking of Final Fantasy VII has produced nothing but gems. True fans of Final Fantasy VII so far have found this game terrible, don't believe me? Go onto GameFAQs and ask any respectable Final Fantasy VII on the game's message board and you'll find out. The best you'd get is "the gameplay was alright". For that I'll give it respect for, it does something good. Good for them.

And I'm glad you had such a great time laughing over my post because I did just the same over yours. I'm not in here jumping to insult the people that like the game, I'm here to state my opinion on the game. That is what forum threads about video games are usually for, am I right? So if you don't like it then I'm sorry but that's my view and the view of 29 reviewers is going to open my eyes to the 'truth' you see.

And that's that. I don't mind rationally talking my opinion out but I'm really not bothering to reply to these "AHA! TAKE THAT!" Phoenix Wright-like posts to my honest opinion.

Oh and btw, 29 reviewers saying the game was good doesn't mean it's fact. For it to be fact it has to be universally true and I'm sorry that isn't universally true. The world being round is universally true. Crisis Core being good just isn't.

And I'm sorry to anyone like CrimsonCyanide who finds this post to be a bother or to be off-topic but I really had to get this out there.

^.....And? Are you done crying now? Like I said, research yourself to prove me wrong. I ain't your butler, do your know searching. If you don't like another FFVII fanfic game, don't buy, don't associate, don't flame.

k, maybe that was off the line, but really. Can't win all of 'em. Just accept it, get over it, and move along. SE made another FFVII series and made hella good profit on it. So what? It doesn't matter to you.

Here is the bottom line. SE made another game. Which associate with FFVII series. K, I enjoy playing the game as "Crisis Core: Story of Zack". It has good graphics, good music, funny epics, here and there sad stories, & couldn't let go my PSP. That satisfy me enough.

Anyways, CrimsonCyanide right, I should focus on the topic

I've always wonder this. In Japanese Zack's name is ザックス. the "ス" change the name to Zacks or Zax..... So I thought, but in ENG they named it like "Zack" like DoA's Zack. Wonder way? Or am I thinking about pointless stuff?

ichitaka05

^....And? Are you done crying now? Like I said, research yourself to prove me wrong. I ain't your butler, do your know searching. If you don't like another FFVII fanfic game, don't buy, don't associate, don't flame.

Crying? Nothing of the sort if you had bothered to read. Research myself to prove you wrong? It was an opinion which you seemed to take as me claiming as fact. And I don't see how I'm flaming at all, did stating an opinion become flaming?

ichitaka05

k, maybe that was off the line, but really. Can't win all of 'em. Just accept it, get over it, and move along. SE made another FFVII series and made hella good profit on it. So what? It doesn't matter to you.

Again, wasn't trying to win anything. I stated that I was bored of arguing with you because you seemed to think it was some kind of war over fact when I stated an opinion. If you weren't such an ass then you would see that.

I gonna say this, so we can get back to the topic. You're right. Sorry to insult your opinion. Thanks for sharing.

K, back to the TOPIC.

I got it a couple weeks ago. :3 It is LOVE. Although it isn't as good as a lot of other Final Fantasy games [I don't care for the fighting system as much], it's still a fun play...especially with all of the smexy guys. XD Ah, Sephiroth~~you'll always be #1 for me! Hehe.

ichitaka

Did I read that correctly? FFVII and FFVIICC wasn't written by same person? Ah... You need your eyes to check. Here is the Fact of the Day for ya.

I hate to break it to you kid, but Directors, Producers, Illustrators, Composers, Logo Designers, Event Planners, and Characters Designers don't write the story. Get me the line that says "WRITERS". Until then you can praise directors or producers, but the script doesn't come from someone who works the camera angles and amount of drama in a scene, it comes from a crew of people staying up all night staring at their computers.

ichitaka

PSX Extreme - 9.8 out of 10 (98.0%)
GamePro - 4.75 out of 5 (95.0%)
RPGFan - 94 out of 100 (94.0%)
PlayStation: Official Mag (US) - 4.5 out of 5 (90.0%)
Gamervision - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Gamer 2.0 - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
RPGamer - 4.5 out of 5 (90.0%)
Play Magazine - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Kombo - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
GameSpot - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Thunderbolt - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Gaming Age - A- (90.0%)
GameZone - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
PSW Magazine (UK) - 9 out of 10 (90.0%)
Electronic Gaming Monthly - 86.67 out of 100 (86.7%)
Cheat Code Central - 4.3 out of 5 (86.0%)
GamerNode - 8.5 out of 10 (85.0%)
1UP - B+ (85.0%)
IGN - 8.5 out of 10 (85.0%)
GameTrailers - 8.4 out of 10 (84.0%)
GameAlmighty - 8.3 out of 10 (83.0%)
Game Revolution - B (80.0%)
Hooked Gamers - 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
GameTap - 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
GameSpy - 4 out of 5 (80.0%)
Gamers Temple - 76 out of 100 (76.0%)
Game Informer - 7.25 out of 10 (72.5%)
Pocket Gamer (UK) - 7 out of 10 (70.0%)
G4 - X-Play - 2 out of 5 (40.0%)

I'm sorry but a lot of your reviewer sources here are biased like:

G4-X-Play, GameAlmighty, Game Infromet, Gamers Temple, GameSpy (why you'd trust them in the first place), GameTap (see GameSpy parenthesis), GameTrailers, IGN (paid out the bum to write reviews), 1UP,Gamer Node, Cheat Code Central, GameZone, Gaming Age, Thunderbolt, GameSpot (why you'd trust them is beyond me), Kombo, Gamer 2.0, Gamervision, GamePro.

Then there's the DQed ones from point of biased towards genre and/or console/company. These include:

PSW Magazine, RPGamer, Playstation Official Mag, and RPGFan.

I will say I am surprised the only two mags worth even taking their opinions into account on here (Play Magazine and EGM) gave it good scores, but for the most part Crisis Core can die a horrible death because now we're just milking the FF license until its utters tuns into goosebumps and run dry. Don't spend your money on Crisis Core when you can buy a game like the Orange Box, or Call of Duty 4, or the new Disgaea coming out, or Brawl, or the new Mario Kart coming out, or Super Mario Galaxy, or No More Heroes, or Rock Band, or something well worth your money.

ichitaka

^....And? Are you done crying now? Like I said, research yourself to prove me wrong. I ain't your butler, do your know searching. If you don't like another FFVII fanfic game, don't buy, don't associate, don't flame.

Also, stop insulting us gamers that don't like Final Fantasy. I'm sorry our tastes seem to have outgrown a series we played in our childhood and we've moved on. The fact is you need to watch your tounge around people who disagree with your opinion. I'm blaming you for the outburst because of the over fanatical defense of the game you enjoy. That great that you enjoy (even though I'd rather see you play something else), but that doesn't mean you have to try and act like your enjoyment of the game means that you're right about everything you have to say on the game. Also, pulling a bunch of reviews doesn't help support your opinion when the industry is filled with a bunch of magazines with their own personal agenda. It's like say reading the rediculously overly-liberal editorials in the New York Times and thinking that everything they say is pure fact. You can argue about reviews but in the end I don't remember a piece of paper proving how awesome a game ever is. I'd normally say unless that paper is sale figures, but the amount of fanboyism that goes on in the Final Fantasy series is enough to make the sales figures reasonable, so for the fact of the amount of overly-rabid purchases CC and other FF games have had, sales figures become DQed as well. It's like saying you were put into a wrestling match and then you kick your opponent in the balls and wonder why the ref rung the bell. Anyway the point is I'm advising towards discussion here, not personal attacks, and if it continues I'm going to have to report on the assumption of flaming. This is the yellow card so to say, and I can tell you ichi and Deer that I've raised it both to you, but since Deer was tripped, he gets the free kick.

Now then, back on topic. Crisis Core. I'm going to come right out and say it's a steaming pile of poo. It's very disappointing in the way that the storyline, despite not being written by the original cast (which there still is no proof of, see argument above as to why ichi's defense was discredited and proven false), is the same look at how it compares like FF 7 (notice I said compares, not contrasts). Same story, dull characters, and an overly repetitive combat, I picked up CC thanks to a friend but wound up asking for his DS instead to play something like Golden Sun or Advanced Wars 2. Money spent elsewhere this time is going to be money well spent.

Why Anti-CC doesn't give up. Honestly? For Deerstalker, I've step down. And another argument comes along, rahter than CC fan can talk. which by all means more than welcome.

K, for the writers info, you still haven't proven me wrong. From my info I have are Yoshinori Kitase, Shinji Hashimoto, Hajime Tabata, Hideki Imaizumi, Kazushige Nojima & few others was involved in making the story for CC. & VII except: Shinji Hashimoto. But you're telling me I'm wrong, so I like to know who were the people staring at the computer all night. Can you name them & I wanna know where you got that refference from? Please (adding "please" is cuz I really wanna know who wrote it)

For mag reviews, try to read my comment all the way. Even it might be pointless. I wrote "But hey, this is just a rating from... 29 game reviewers. Not the whole world, right? I'm pretty sure there are other game reviewers that have same idea as you."... Hm, I guess you pass that part. Also at least give those review some respect, other than talking just trash. Their reviews are still keeping them in the business. I see your point-of-view for some of their review, but at the same time you have to understand that that's their view too. Rather than writing "why you'd trust them in the first place","paid out the bum to write reviews" or "why you'd trust them is beyond me"

Last if you don't like FF series and you've out grown from them, then why you're still playing FF series? That always got me... If I don't like some game series or grown out of it, I don't even touch it or even think about playing the new one.

btw, maybe writing down " for the most part Crisis Core can die a horrible death because now we're just milking the FF license until its utters tuns into goosebumps and run dry." might be lil' too much isn't it?

I got the game when it first game out. Crisis Core is not the best Final Fantasy game around; however, it is one of the better games for the PSP. The graphics and soundtrack in this game really kick some but. The only problem I really have for this game is the battle system and the voice acting. Not to mention that most of the mission are the same, which get boring after a while. Overall its was a good game too play.