Well the Headline already said that... I had a talk with some Martial Arts Fans in the Thread "Superior Martial Arts". And I enjoeyed those discussions a lot. Now it seems like this thread has disappeared for now and who knows if the Mods and Administrators will find it again...

So actually I was planning to open up another Specific Martial Arts-thread anyway... which I do now...

so everybody (especially the dudes I talked to in the revious thread),... how does your Martial Arts Training look like in your discipline you practice...

-How do you warm up?
-What do you sessions do you guyz practice in lessons?
-What training methods do you train frequently?
-How do you prepare for (Ranking)-Tests?
-How do these Test in your Martial Arts Category looked like?

etc, etc... tell me about the Training of your Martial Arts School... even if there are sponatneous Training methods in your mind right now...

Hmm when i did hung gar our conditioning session consisted of the following:
1)stretching, obviously this is the first thing i tihnk for every martial arts or physical activity.
-everything from hands, neck, to knees. takes about 5-10 min
2)stance work, usually holding a horse or bow stance in counts of 10 then doing quick changes from one to the other.
3)sparring application drills: the main one we do is called three star, or sam seng which consists of arm bangs to toughen up your forearms. the 2nd main one we do consists of different types of blocking drills.

then finally we usually do exercises that relate to a specific part of a form, usually it was something that was coming up in the form we were learning. this usually goes on for the remainder of an hour to an hour and half.

the lession actually starts after this, and is simply just an instructor teaching us the next few moves of a form and going over its applications. then your expected to practice it yourself and be ready to move on next session, and if not, most likely they wont teach you the next moves.

I'm special. I go to a local gym where i payed for a 12 month membership and i can get free like 1 - 1 instructions on pretty much anything. So asked this guy for a program in what will make me better in martial arts.

later that week i return and i use kettlebells. Heard of them? they look like a iron ball with a handle. My routine is basically playing with these iron balls that can start in weight from 8 kg to 40kg.

My program starts off like this:

1. 3 X 10 Swings (works hips good for box kicking) <<---really cardio!!
2. 3 X 10 cleanes per arm (its basically pulling the iron ball up into your fighting stance as fast as you can)
3. 3 X 8 one aremed rows (in a pushup position, hands holding onto the handle of the bells and pulling one bell to your hip bone with one arm and holding yourself on the ground with the other...swap arms ofcourse)
4. 3 X 8 floor press "per arm" (like a bench press position but on the floor, holding the bells in your hands above your shoulders and slowly dropping one down and punch up into the air as fast/hard as you can yet still holding the other bell up in the air. AWESOME FOR SPEED!)
5. 5 turkish get ups (per arm so 10 in total) - (laying on the ground, and in a specific order, get up with the kettlebell in one hand..works abs and legs)
6. 3 X 10 cleanes + jerk (cleans as explained above and jerk is sorta like a shoulder press but with a little jump while trying to get it into the air...like them dudes in the olympics how the drop down a little...great for shoulders)
7. 5 (per leg) of pistol's (a pistol is basically a 1 legged squat and you hold one leg infront of you like kicking and just squat all the way down) <<---really tiring but its pretty good!!
8. 50 swings (a swing is where you grab a bench press bar, place one end in a corner so it doesn't move alot and with the other end swing it around your hips from left to right) <<--good for hips and abs)
9. 25 knee ups (grab onto a chin up bar and raise your legs up as high as you can)<<--basically another ab exercise.

After that i can pretty much do whatever but i mainly stretch my hamstrings and do splits.

Other than that its basically 1 - 1 with my instructor in martial arts. I think its pretty good because he came 2nd in Australia!

Kettlebells really works up a sweat and i have noticed a strength difference and physique change. My previous exercise was basically weights and i see more progression and FASTER progression with the bells!!

My instructor basiccally learnt Muy Tai and Ju jitsu and basic army training because he was in the army! Although he reccomends that i do Zen Do Kai because its pretty much a bit of everything, including weapon training and i wanted to learn Kendo yet Zen Do Kai also includes knife, staff (like a pike/spear) and then two sticks that neo used in the matrix 2 when he's in the french dudes mansion!

Our tae kwon do club at university has a pretty relaxed class, since the two instructors are both students or ex-students. In a typical 90 minute class, here's how it'll work:

1. Warming up, lots of running laps or lengths, push-ups and sit-ups thrown in for about 15 minutes, plus some sitting in horse stance and punching sets
2. Stretching, focused on the hips and legs for about 5-10 minutes, a mix of static and dynamic stretches
3. Line work, practising basic techniques - blocks and striking combinations, kicks, anything between 20-40 minutes and the remainder of the class for sparring practice, which is freeform light sparring
Or we might use punching bags and focus mitts, or use the time before sparring to practice forms, going over previous ones and practising the next one for the grading coming up. OR practice three-step, two-step and one-step semi-free sparring. The only thing for sure in most classes is that we'll finish with some sparring if there's 10-15 minutes at the end free.

There is usually a tournament every semester and a grading each term, so in the weeks coming up to these we put a lot more emphasis on practising sparring in competition conditions and perfecting our forms. We also do breaking in gradings and competitions, so we start doing that as well. The gradings are pretty much the same as a class, except the examiners sit at the front and dictate the exercises, usually 5 of an indicated technique or combination. They also observe some basic stuff like push-ups XD and watch us do three-step, the next form and maybe some sparring for the higher grades. Finish off with destruction if you have to do it, usually only one technique per hand and foot for left and right. It's quite easy :P

Does anyone here believe in spiritual strength too within martial arts? When i spoke to my instructor he didn't beleive in that sort of stuff whereas I do.

Does anyone here beleive in stuff like "Mind over Matter" or something like that in order to become stronger and better within martial arts?

stjuff

Does anyone here believe in spiritual strength too within martial arts? When i spoke to my instructor he didn't beleive in that sort of stuff whereas I do.

Does anyone here beleive in stuff like "Mind over Matter" or something like that in order to become stronger and better within martial arts?

Spiritual Strength, indeed I believe in it,... IMO it can only be reached by the most talented Martial Artists in the World.

Now I'm gonna talk about my Taekwondo Training:

Warm up:

Runn Laps and while doing so we have to do following excercises:
-we have to lift our Knees up while running
-then lift up our Heels high while running
-Sideward run Face against the Wall, then into the middle
-Boxer-Run, and Knee lift up-run
-by Command on Push up in the middle, then raising to 5 and Sometimes 10 Push ups
-sometimes we have to jump over small items

Bending our upper body down and stomp with our heels down the floor as fast and as hard as we can in small steps one track

-cool down by performing light Kicks...

then comes the Stretching, sometimes with Partner.

The real Training:
Basic Kick and Punches, and lately we vary it by doing it with Partners:
Both Partner stand opposite to each other an we kick at each other at the same time, while trying to defend. Or we do Combinations and take turns...

Fun Part is the fighting Training. Then we do Excercises and Combinations for that and after that we actually spar...

Fighting lately, can be done, after the official Training has ended, so our young guns among us fight after the official Training...

I don't mean to be offensinve but i think Tae Kwon Do is the worst martial arts to learn. And i can say that because i have learnt it.

The reason why i say that is because of the persons stance is so incorrect.

One leg behind the other: if someone comes from the side, you need to move your leg to the opposite side of your bodsy in order to hold yourself up.

Blocking: Moving the whole arm to block takes too long and leaves too big of an opening

Punching: The practice with punching is just moving your arms where as you should move your whole upper body, from shoulder all the way to hips when punching.

Kicking: I found that there are two stages when kicking, lift the leg then "stretch out" really fast. If this were to happen in a real fight, the opponent would already know you were about to kick when you raise your knee up.

Backleg: Flollowing on from kicking, when about to kick (in taekwondo) your whole body balance is focused on your back leg

There are more i could say, and there are also some easy 'fixes' to these problems, if you want to know what they are, reply saying "yes i wanna learn o chosen one" :D!

ีum~~~
I Train Taiji.
I think it's different from your martial arts. and my Training program is different too.
1.Qi Gong 15 minute and Stretching to Warm up.
2.Jan joung 40 minute. (It's like stand concentrat)
3.Practice taiji 45minute.
4.Train other skill 30minute. (dodge skill etc.)
5.Sparing or Tuy-So 30 minute.
6.Salk with my master 10 minute.
- -' Sorry my english very bad.

Who sais this forum is gonna be closed soon?

Humm... for me sice i'm into kendo the first thing i do is that my sensei makes me do some chores and stuff as a warm up after that he let's me do some swings again and again then here comes the hard part he challenges me to a duel!!

hi-mizu

humm... for me sice i'm into kendo the first thing i do is that my sensei makes me do some chores and stuff as a warm up after that he let's me do some swings again and again then here comes the hard part he challenges me to a duel!!

is kendo fun? is it worth doing than normal martial arts??

Our Tae Kwon Do club/school has a number of different things mixed in with it. Our normal workouts are pretty standard: stretching for 30 mins, basics most days (hand techniques, line drills (kicking), and stuff like that) for about 30 mins, and then the last 30 mins we usually spend either doing forms, no-contact sparring, or other drills (sometimes more kicking back and forth across the room - very grueling), and then many sit-ups and push-ups to finish. However, we also have classes that are more laid back and geared towards self-training and group work, where people in the same belt group help each other out and learn their material from higher ranks.

Finally, my personal favorite is grappling class. We start by warming up with falling and rolling drills, and then partner up to work on basic moves (take-downs and submissions - we have a list of 10 particular combinations we go through). Some classes we focus on learning new techniques, and then we always spend the last 10-30 minutes (depending on time) putting it all into practice with actual wrestling, followed often by individual drills for 5-10 mins (which last week, suprised us all by including cartwheels of all things. Master's explanation: "You'll never know when you'll need to use a cartwheel to get out of someone's guard").

@~stjuff: Fight against my Taekwondo Master, than U'll know the reaal Taekwondo, heheee ^-^ ^-^ ^-^... Okay, just kidding halfways. I respect your opinion about Taekwondo, and I'm not gonna take it personal or so. Some of my fellows in the German Tekken Community also think that Taekwondo is crap, and prefer Kick Boxing. ^-^ ^-^
But you have to see and feel my Master Fight, he's really strong,and you know why... because HIS Master didn't teach him the way of Fighting directly... He had to teach everything to himself with his friends. And that deserves my respect. So in other Words, he's very well trained in full Contact Fighting all the way. I wouldn't underestimate him if I were u, hehe...

Yeah maxi i wouldn't underestimate the teachers too since there whole life is mainly martial arts, but some of their stuff, you don't learn in basic taekwondo school.

You gotta go really into it if you want to be good but some things in change in Tae kwon do stance and positioning too though.

at least its better than pro wrestling (WEE, WWF and all that). i think wrestling in THE WORST combat ever. I've studied their moves and basically to dodge an attack all you need to do is step back.

take for example when the jump into the air and kick to the opponent with both their legs...if you step back, they wont get you. Their stance in general is too open. A kick into the groin to easy...might as well place a midget there yelliing "hit me hit me!".

Still i think that spiritual training is the best for all martiaal arts though. I'm working out with kettlebells and in a month i've gone from shoulder pressing 12kgs to 20kgs (3 sets of 8). all i've taken is some of that protein milk shake stuff (and horse testosterone), BUT THATS ALL I SWEAR!

You're right about one thing... Those beautiful looking Kicks are only meant for Show and for Breaking Tests, and may not be useful in real life,... well from my Experience of my Masters Teachings, in Normal lessons we learn sometimes 75% of Techniques we don't use in Real Life, and in karate might be the same, I don't know... BUT, our Master teaches us things that WE NEED, too, and I mean for real Life. So I cannot actually complain about anything in my Training. The Training is very intense, I mean we are all sweat tired in the end sometimes. And that is the most important thing for me... Training until you reach over your limit. I keep myself in Shape by doing workout frequently. And that helps me with Stamina.
I cannot say I'm the born Martial Artist, but the Passion for Martial Arts is there for me.

Wrestling, I cannot say anything about it... just that I cannot stand it.

UFC is the most useful Fighting form IMO...