Well I dont think people are weird just for liking anime too much! thats their hobby or maybe something that makes them happy so why should they be labeled
as "weird"?
I mean the world would be boring without weird people right? hahaha XD

Well, I am a person who is really into anime...I have watched like over 200 anime now I think. Still, I have a fairly active social life and friends that I hang out with often. I also have a car and a job, and I am going to school. I think one can be into whatever they want, and have as much fun as they want, as long as they don't interfere with there future ability to have fun.

It's the same thing that I think about alcohol. I drink alcohol but I never let it affect my social or professional life. If you get a DUI or get fired for work for drinking on the job, then you are going to be out a lot of money and you will mess things up later on.

As for the people who claim that they only like the 2d world...well...most of them are trolls, me included. I often talk about how I only like 2d women and its just a joke really. I do have a lot of attraction for 2d girls, because they can be perfect and whatever you want them to be, but I also like 3d women. I don't date though because I feel it is a waste of time. Sometimes when I lie in bed at night I long to have a women by my side, but then I could just "fap" and that feeling will go away. If I was going to date a girl she would have to be into anime or at least accept that I am into anime because I am not going to give up my hobby just for a relationship.

Anyways, to answer if I think they are weird or not...well, I think most people are weird and have some kind of obsession or fetish or something even if they don't really realize it. The people who claim to like anime more than real life...well, sure, I think they are a little strange, but believe me, I have met a lot stranger people in life than those guys. One customer at my store tried to convert me to a church where they pray up to 5 hours at a time with no words or anything and they just "communicate" with the Holy Spirit for hours at a time. Are hardcore anime fans any more delusional than that? I don't think so but then the people who go to that church also really believe they are talking to the Holy Spirit. Which side is crazier? Each side will call each other crazy. It's all a matter of opinion I guess and how much craziness you can put up with...

SWhisssper

it is a fact that what I do all day every day is play games, watch anime and read a book or some manga, along with vital actions, as toilet, eating and sleeping, and that's it.

This didn't make me feel that bad, first thing that crossed my mind was "Ok, he may be having a hard time, everybody neeeds their time now and then, relax, get out of their system and such". but then i read this.

SWhisssper

Undesired by society? Certainly. But I don't desire it myself, so I don't care.

My question is: Do you REALLY mean this?
You got no friends? Nothing?
Cutting yourself from the society and rejecting everyone who is trying to get close to you is refered to as depression. Do you really believe that this will lead anywhere in your life? What are your plans for the future?

With the society that we live in today, who the hell would wanna be in part of it anyways. It's F&^%#D up!!

You don't have to embrace the whole world, know your friends, know your limits.
And you can have a great time with people you actually wanna spend your time with and be with.

No need to have over 9000 friends of which only 10 you actually hang out with.

acidtreat101

I think most people are weird and have some kind of obsession or fetish or something even if they don't really realize it. The people who claim to like anime more than real life...well, sure, I think they are a little strange, but believe me, I have met a lot stranger people in life than those guys. One customer at my store tried to convert me to a church where they pray up to 5 hours at a time with no words or anything and they just "communicate" with the Holy Spirit for hours at a time.

LOL i had this woman on a bus while going to uni trying to convert me as well.
she was like "did you know jesus is your savior?"
I'm like no not really.
Then she got off at her stop and is like "remember you can talk to him anytime you want, even when you are in the toilet"

I kid you not, everyone on the bus was like WTF was that?

But yeh everyone does have something different about themselves
it's what makes us individuals

Most people know how to balance their life and all

A few don't and yeh, sux to be them.

I knew a guy who went to an internet cafe for a month while he's parents were overseas.
The guy slept there, lived off 2 min noodles and in 1 months time he looked like some F*^((ED up shit

Hell i love games, but yeh i don't let it get in the way of my life and totally screw my self up.

NO matter, there will always be some people like this, too extreme
they don't have a grip on reality, it usually starts off at a young age too

comes down to parenting as well
if you don't set some kind of boundary and let em do as they please, prepare for some shitty time ahead.

Anyway there are just too many variables to talk about.


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I am clearly not trying to change anybody's beliefs.

My point here is to show how destructive a lifestyle like that be to the individual himself. I have been leading a destructive lifestyle for the past 3 years playing World of Warcraft. The consequenses of doing so have lead to my friends walking away one by one, lossing interest to me after asking numerous times for me to go out with the which i didn't cause i "HAD TO RAID". All this made me realise that if i kept going like that i would end up having no friends and that i would be left with a game that would propably shut down some day and then i would be ALONE.

What did i do? I asked for help. I discussed it with my parents, my girlfriend and some of my best friends who were still there. At that time i had also joined IPower, which i have to say has helped alot as a community giving very nice suggestions and opinions about the matter. Then one day i just stoped playing WoW and uninstalled it so i never get into the temptation of buying a pre-paid card again.

Now SWhisssper, i don't know if you have some kind of complex or problem that led you to that lifestyle but it seemed really wierd at first. If it just a personal choise of lifestyle i will have to accept it for sure. But if it derives from something else you can always talk about it on the internet and there are great communities to talk about such stuff. Due to the anonimmity no one will ever know who that person is who had that problem...

acidtreat101, why would the girl you are dating have to be an anime lover as well? You could make a scedule and give her some hours of your day, she doesnt have to be with you the whole day or something. Don't be afraid to open yourself up to women, most of them are really understandable with such things.

Meh, I wouldn't really care if they even want to die for anime. Yes, it's weird but what do we care? We're just some random stranger from the internet..why would they listen to us? XD Anyway, the internet is like heaven for a lot of 'weirdos' since they can express themselves and make themselves noticeable to other people. In fact, they can even make up stuff about them and get pictures from some person or site telling others that it's them in that picture.. lolzz But enough about that, what I mean is, anything can happen in the internet.. XD You shouldn't take it seriously.. but I admit that I would seriously whack someone who would say that to me in real life. lol

I said that I don't need society. I didn't say I don't have any friends and I didn't say that I act in such a way as to drive everyone away from me. Though there are times when I'm tired...
Yes, I mean this. I don't need a friend who lies and does so normally. I don't want a friend who does things bound by common sense and always trying to make an impression. I want a friend, meaning someone to be as he or she desires. And up until now, there are two people in my life that do so, though there are others that I spend my time with.
Please read next time and don't add words by yourself, as I mostly go straight to the point.

It is personal choice now, which is good for me. If it weren't there would've been a problem. Don't worry about me, I'm perfectly fine with myself and surroundings, especially the psychological plane, as I don't care about physical. I hate doing what I hate and I love wasting my life by doing what I love.

About your WoW story, don't you think it's your personal choice to do that for three years and then also your choice to change that? Even though you needed some additional stats and substituted those with guilds and a party, you eventually solved the quest because you chose to. Think if you did so entirely by your own will (but then, you should've been able to do this alone) or influenced by a third party.

SWhisssper

I said that I don't need society. I didn't say I don't have any friends and I didn't say that I act in such a way as to drive everyone away from me. Though there are times when I'm tired...

Now you speak clear. The way you first posted it, it seemed to me like you are a guy stuck on a chair watching anime and playing video games all day long with no other interests(that is what you wrote, go check it out).
But now that you clear it out your situation seems to be pretty much every kid's from 15 to 18. Focus on the one thing that makes you happy for the moment and spend less time on the others.

So i think i owe you an apology for being offensive as you owe me one for not being clear enough. Discussion is about closed by my part.

I believe liking anime is okay.

No matter how old you are, as long as it wont seriously affect your social or family life and work. It's just a way to entertain yourself, relax. It's totally fine if you're consciously watching in to relax or for entertainment purposes.

Like with alcohol or smoking, although they can be harmful, using them to relax is fine, as long as you are aware that you do it just do relax. But if you use alcohol (or smoke for that matter) to escape the reality and you just do it, without any apparent reason, then that's a problem. Same goes for watching anime.

At least that's my opinion.

Lol I'm so weird.

Welcome to reality and it's something you can accept or ignore.

It's just natural to like what you love and it just so happens they like it more than you do. People even take it to the next level and find pride in the things they love... like.. yeah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVY_sQggFZk

[quote=DemiSouls]People even take it to the next level and find pride in the things they love... like.. yeah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVY_sQggFZk[/quote]

wow...just wow

he didn't just take it to the next level, he totally hacked the game and went on a
god mode killing spree

Yakushi

As I said in previous threads, life is based on communication and communities themselves. The bigger the community you build, the more you communicate. The more you communicate, the more you build up your social skills. At the end you will realize how easy and nice it is to meet new people, get to know their stories, even learn things from them.

Interacting with the community is a great thing. Don't miss it for 4 more hours of anime.

Yet, this is not what communities truly need. Being outside of the social aspect of community is not detrimental to the community, as long as a person offers the community value. This can be as simple as working.

The basic needs of a society are production and defense. Neighborliness , and socializing are not true needs of the society.

On the other hand most individuals are in need of personal contact and communication.

John Donne

...No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind...

At the heart of the Renaissance era we came to seek each other as a people, instead of driving them away to focus on our scholarly endeavors. As such it seemed to bring to light the need for most people to actively wish for company.

Yakushi

I am clearly not trying to change anybody's beliefs.

I must point out that actively denouncing the actions of any person or people is inherently attempting to alter their perceptions and change how they are behaving.

Yakushi

My point here is to show how destructive a lifestyle like that be to the individual himself. I have been leading a destructive lifestyle for the past 3 years playing World of Warcraft. The consequences of doing so have lead to my friends walking away one by one, losing interest to me after asking numerous times for me to go out with the which i didn't cause i "HAD TO RAID". All this made me realise that if i kept going like that i would end up having no friends and that i would be left with a game that would probably shut down some day and then i would be ALONE.

What did i do? I asked for help. I discussed it with my parents, my girlfriend and some of my best friends who were still there. At that time i had also joined IPower, which i have to say has helped alot as a community giving very nice suggestions and opinions about the matter. Then one day i just stoped playing WoW and uninstalled it so i never get into the temptation of buying a pre-paid card again.

The major difference between anime and that game in particular, is that money is the core desire of WoW. Honestly anime is an art and is a great example of escapism. There are so many types, plus communities, and whole cultures created around it.

WoW was crafted to eat up as much time as possible, burning through your money. There is little alteration in anything you do and WoW could never lend itself to any form of discussion. Beyond the sort of discussion we are having now (E.G. Dangers of over indulgence).

Now I must add there are animes out there, where I believe they would fall in to the above concept (I.E. "fan service", poorly written ones, ones that capitalize hype, but alter the story significantly). However, I see that most have some quality of art in them, this is without getting into the distinctions between fine art and art. Or as my friend put it arete and artifice. There is innate qualities that make something fine art (arete) verse just being crafted (artifice). However, that would be another discussion altogether.

Yakushi

acidtreat101, why would the girl you are dating have to be an anime lover as well? You could make a schedule and give her some hours of your day, she doesn't have to be with you the whole day or something. Don't be afraid to open yourself up to women, most of them are really understandable with such things.

You didn't fully read his comment. He finds anime important enough, that he would prefer someone who could share in his love of anime or at the very least condone his hobby. He, like most everyone, wishes for a partner that enjoys or respects the aspects that define him and do not wish to change them. I believe anyone can get behind that.

Now for my two cents on the matter. The community is a bit melodramatic with their love of anime. Most people still have very active lives, but the anonymity of the internet facilitates the ease of communication. As such in the generation we are living, communicating in person is becoming less and less necessary.

Those that envelop their lives in anime, allowing themselves to be swallowed whole, are what you are actively lashing out against. Some may see this as detrimental behavior or addiction. You see it as a depressive life, that stifles life experience.

I must say that life experience can be detrimental as well. Myself would be an example of over indulgence in life. I seek so many different things, that I rarely sleep. I also am hard to satisfy and thusly have to alter my life constantly. This makes it hard to be productive in a society that favors monotony. Personally I would find it very hard to settle into a routine and as such am usually not favored by society, while I am favored by humanity.

See there are distinctions that should be made. Humanity and society have different drives and desires from the individual. Humanity will want the individual to be unique to have a story, to leave its mark so to speak. While society wants a person to contribute to the structure which supports the whole.

I, personally, am of the belief that one should honor the individual. I believe that there is a vast amount of wonder in our world and it should be experienced. I also will understand the people that have found what they are searching for and settled down. It is not a bad thing to know what you want from life.

Now to take the objects from the equation and talk about emotional connection to society. You postulate that people are not whole without a healthy connection to the populace. I must disagree with this. People as a whole are widely unimaginative. They are predictable and this is because they are knit into groups.

Those that stay on the fringe of society, can still impact the infrastructure positively, while not necessarily subscribing to the doctrine. This should be respected, because great developments in humanity were crafted by the fringe elements of their respective societies.

Overall the true reason I actively seek out individuals, is that I find human beings to be inherently evil. Most strive for good, but it doesn't change the core of the being. As such I would never condemn a person who wishes not to be drowned by the jökulhlaup of socialization. Beyond that I would urge people to give individuals a chance. Either they prove to indoctrinated in the whole and you drop them or you find another black sheep and thrive.

DemiSouls

Welcome to reality and it's something you can accept or ignore.

It's just natural to like what you love and it just so happens they like it more than you do. People even take it to the next level and find pride in the things they love... like.. yeah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVY_sQggFZk

Like I always figured, those body pillows are for perverts.

Losftydreamer

Like I always figured, those body pillows are for perverts.

What are you talking about? That video is full of win and that guy is the god of pure awesomeness!

God he is crazy:P