Sorry, I cringe at scenes of people dry humping regularly, but especially when they are drying humping something that looks like a 14 year old in lingerie.

Yakushi

There are so many wierd people on this site. I browse the forums watching people going like: -"Would there still be a meaning in life if the was no anime?" -"I only care about anime, i dont care about people and real life, they are a waste of time" -"Ignorance is Bliss" What are those people thinking? I have checked their ages and they are all 17+. So what would the problem be that someone turns to anime so badly that he ignores everyone and everything exept anime?..

It was actually this topic that killed all my intrest in anime, I still read manga but I stay away from almost every anime forum. I have liked anime and manga for some years but it hasn't been more than liking. I have never seen anime or manga as something else than ordinary comics since they aren't anything more or less than that.

But to many people seem to exaggerate when it comes to anime, manga and Japan overall. To many people act like written in this post they go on in style of -"Would there still be a meaning in life if the was no anime?" myself I find this plain ridicolus. Of course there will be many meanings in life without anime, taking your life for the sake of comics is sick. And what I find most disturbing is that you aren't allowed to talk bad or negative about anime or manga. If you say something like "taking your life for anime is sick" then you will get a answer in the style of:
* You are sick!
* Go to hell!
* Since they are anime fans they don't really mean what they say so it is okay for them to act and do whatever they want because they like anime.
* don't talk about it!
* it is worthless to talk about this.
WHY can't there be bad, negative, not positive things about anime, manga and Japan? Maybe this new trend of liking this kind of things has gone to far. It isn't about just liking a cartoon anymore now it is something holy which you can't bad mouth because then you will be hanged.

Drusila

WHY can't there be bad, negative, not positive things about anime, manga and Japan? Maybe this new trend of liking this kind of things has gone to far. It isn't about just liking a cartoon anymore now it is something holy which you can't bad mouth because then you will be hanged.

There can be negative things about all sides, as I pointed out by how my eagerness to experience many things in life, can be negative. However, if you want negative things about Japan that is easy. Ask the Chinese, or read the book The Knights of Bushido by Lord Russel, either way I am sure you would see a decent amount of negativity.

I was mainly talking about the fact that many anime fans today can't stand anything negative about anime, manga and Japan. I am well aware that there are others that see negative parts about japan, and it is not that I am trying to find something negative about it. It is just the fact that everything can have bad sides and that is something many anime and manga fans want to ignore since they want to see Japanese comics as holy and unearthly.

I myself like Japanese comics but I still find some animes terrible and some wonderful, I find it strange when people attack me for liking one anime and hating another, what happened to different taste. Take a good example like Code Geas (can't even spell it) it have become a really popular anime and manga, myself I HATE it and when I go to a page where anime/manga fans hangs out and one person makes a topic like "What do you think about Code geas?" Since I am a person who likes discussing i feel that it is fun to learn all different kind of opinions about stuff so I write in the topic: "I hate code geas because..." before I wrote this every post has been "love it", "the best show ever" and so on. There can be hundreds of posts like that but no one ever says "I didn't find it good" can actually only people which like the show gather and reply to the topic? Some people are so afraid of saying "I didn't like the show" that they instead say "this wasn't the best, and that wasn't that good, but it was a great show, the best I have ever seen" In this case "this" and "that" use to be Story and Art the main part of a anime and manga. So when I write "I hated it because..." people start calling me names and freezing me out since I am not allowed to have my opinion to many times have all those strange fans called me "stupid bitch go to hell", "hang yourself" and stuff like that, is that normal? I didn't actually offend them in any way I just said my opinion and explained it since I thought forum was about discussing not just agreeing with everyone else.

Drusila

all those strange fans called me "stupid bitch go to hell", "hang yourself" and stuff like that, is that normal?

Simply put, welcome to the internet. I wouldn't put much stock in the insults, because the internet treats them like handshakes. Honestly there are more trolls than calm and rational people, so having a discussion is often impossible. Here at least it becomes a moot point, since this community has a decent quantity of intelligent people. Though we do still have the dramatic bunch and of course our resident troll.

Drusila

"I hate code geas because..." before I wrote this every post has been "love it", "the best show ever" and so on. There can be hundreds of posts like that but no one ever says "I didn't find it good" can actually only people which like the show gather and reply to the topic?

There are plenty of reasons for this. People who hate something don't spend all their time discussing it, and people who found it mediocre or average couldn't care less either. Most discussions for a particular show, book, comic, whatever will be monopolized by fans since they're the ones who want to discuss it. That's just common sense.

Secondly, when you use words like "hate," people can get offended at that sort of strong language. There aren't many shows that I can honestly say I "hate," so I don't normally use such words anyway. Of course, if you word the rest of your opinion so that you state genuine reasons of why you dislike something, there's not much one can say against you.

However, it can get rather jarring to see people constantly saying stuff like "The characters suck, the story is the boring, the writing is poor, the art looks terrible, etc." without saying much else. Usually, when you write out your opinion on something you dislike, you can find good things about too, and find that maybe you don't hate it so much. You don't need to write a book about it, just state your opinion clearly and politely.

Also, speaking personally, it annoys me when people who hate a show watch it every week. You can discern whether you like most shows after a few episodes (unless it's something really long like Monster or LoGH), so I don't get people who watch stuff they hate. If you truly see nothing good about something after five episodes, it probably isn't for you, and you should be watching something you _do_ enjoy. (I speak broadly in this opinion.)

People who get offended even at well written critiques are usually young people with little patience. Even though most ages say 17+, I would bet that does not hold true for many people around here.

First of all, I do not ever trust the ages written by others because you do not know whether they tell lies or not. There is no guilty for 17+ people to watch animation because this is a kind of entertainment and hobbies. For your point, I have also seen some people saying that animation and games equal to their lifes and they usually ignore other people. I think this is due to the development of computer. By using computer, you can easily download the animation and games from the web. Later, people find that it is very convenient to get these and they do not want to waste time on chatting with people.

It's all because internetz is teh awezomes. Or something like that.
If one has no other interests and does not get along with his peers he will definitely find something else to devote his attention to, in this case, anime or manga. Sooner or later that obsession moves to something else.
If a person is older than 17 doesn't mean that he's mature ;)
As for this video... oh wow, rich. I could never afford so much stuff and that doesn't help my love for posters ;_;

Some people just take a liking something to the extreme so much it becomes an obsession. I do admit its over the top to be fully into something that you ignore everything else around you. You must have some interaction with the real world or otherwise people are just going to think your the walking dead.

Well, the world is full of fanatics... fanatics of gods , of anime , of movies , of sports , of Harry Potter , even of conspiracy theories .

I think that any attitude, no matter how weird it is, shall be respected if it does not interferes with your life. However, everything is bad when is pushed to an extreme, and fanaticism is one of those things, specially when is the source of violence (for example, soccer fans fights).

From reading most of the posts here I get to the conclusion that:

* The reason for forums is not discussing it its for behaving bad on joke or to talk only good about stuff since only the ones who like it will talk about it. Therefore we do not actually need forum since a forum is for real discussions and a discussion can't be build only on positive reactions.

* That any attitude should be respected: does this mean we should respect, racism, murders, rape and stuff like that because people that do that kind of stuff actually think that it is good. Maybe it is their hobby or obsession.
And also is internet only for acting horrible against each other?

This two things doesn't very often apply when you talk on other forums which dosen't have anything with anime or manga to do. In forums which covers other subject people discuss, they like and they dislike, and they don't behave as pigs also they do find things wrong when it has gone to far.

Because he doesn't want grim reality so he tries to distort it by owning anime as his world.

Wow, i didn't actually expect this to go any further and get any more replies. Anyway

DemiSouls

Welcome to reality and it's something you can accept or ignore.

Don't forget that critisism is also a part of reality and you face it at least once a day in your everyday life. Exchanging opinions on matters and problems is not wrong, on the other hand it actually helps the individual improve and be more aware of some situations, even if the conversation leads nowhere that is also an expirience talking with a guy of diferent interests.
Reality is hard to describe to be honest because everybody thinks of reality as something partially different than another does.

Loftydreamer

Now for my two cents on the matter. The community is a bit melodramatic with their love of anime. Most people still have very active lives, but the anonymity of the internet facilitates the ease of communication. As such in the generation we are living, communicating in person is becoming less and less necessary.

I am well aware of the corrupted world where modern people, myself included, are born and raised. Now it is a real matter of the way one is raised on how much he will be affected by the propaganda of the modern world, making them adapt materialism and all the fake needs the media are trying to impose to the modern individual. If the parents are aware enough to raise a well aware child then it is more likely that the child itself will, in the futute, turn all those addictions and fake needs down leading to him being a better and more aware person.

Why do i say all that? If everyone was raised in a healthy environment the whole internet would be different just because people would have actual reasons to talk with others, ask things, share expiriences, help others. Not causing drama in forums, not trolling, nor going all offensive using all explicit words they know to make somebody feel bad so they feel superior.

Loftydreamer

You didn't fully read his comment. He finds anime important enough, that he would prefer someone who could share in his love of anime or at the very least condone his hobby. He, like most everyone, wishes for a partner that enjoys or respects the aspects that define him and do not wish to change them. I believe anyone can get behind that.

I did actually take the time to read the whole comment at the very first time. What i didn't understand was why would anime be an obstacle to a date with a friendly, nice girl? Doesn't have to be his girlfriend or something. Self-development says that each time you aproach a girl and talk to her, you become one time better at it. So, aproaching girls just to chit-chat and actually train yourself on being more and more self confident when doing it is worth wasting some time of your anime.

Now, if we are talking about a girlfriend... Me and my girlfriend have somewhat diferent interests and tastes but this is exactly the magic in the whole "couple" situation, you see what she likes, she sees what you like, you do what she likes to do, she does what you like to do. Asking for a girl who likes anime,as an anime-lover is selfish and to me it doesn't really seem you want a girlfriend or that you are ready to sacrifice some of your anime for your girlfriend. That is what a relationship is all about, sacrifices and finally getting along together with a common solution...

Drusila

WHY can't there be bad, negative, not positive things about anime, manga and Japan? Maybe this new trend of liking this kind of things has gone to far. It isn't about just liking a cartoon anymore now it is something holy which you can't bad mouth because then you will be hanged.

Team supporter beats an opposing supporter to death for mouthing at him about his team.

Do you know why this happens? Human nature. Lets say you are my friend, and someone walks up to me and starts telling me some negative things about you, a natural reaction would be me mocking him or swearing at him for the things he says.
Did you see what happened in that situation? I didn't care if the stuff the other guy told me were true or not, maybe i didn't even think about it, i just reacted because the target of hate was something i know and like... We fight about MMOs, we fight about teams, drinks, parking slots, queues...

I think AssasinXXX mainly tapped into why you'll find so many "weird" people on this site. Essentially you have a wanted resource and a currency which has to be "earned", either by messing with pictures, uploading stuff or... posting on this forum. Basically this means you have a lot of half hearted attempts to make a topic to whore for papers. This is why this forum will probably always be mediocre at best, although it has its moments.

On top of this you have pre bias based around anime. And on top of that this normally orients itself around teenagers. You put this on the Internet and tada: AP forum topics. In other words don't read too much into it, it's just junk on the Internet.

As a [former] World of Warcraft player, I'm sure you've been acquainted with the forums. People yelling at each other, saying each other is terrible and fails at whatever, and endless drama therein. Over a video game. And one that doesn't take particularly much skill at that. Scary part being that many of those people are way out of their teens and actually have kids and stuff. Which reminds me that I should probably play a bit less myself :p

It's kind of sad and scary to realize what the Internet has shaped itself as... and how I'm one of those people that probably contributed to that.

Yakushi

I did actually take the time to read the whole comment at the very first time. What i didn't understand was why would anime be an obstacle to a date with a friendly, nice girl? Doesn't have to be his girlfriend or something. Self-development says that each time you aproach a girl and talk to her, you become one time better at it. So, aproaching girls just to chit-chat and actually train yourself on being more and more self confident when doing it is worth wasting some time of your anime.

Here's the part that I think you aren't understanding fully:

I said:
or at least accept that I am into anime because I am not going to give up my hobby just for a relationship.

What that means is that, quite simply, I would never date someone who has such a dislike for anime that I would have to give up my hobby to date them. If one of the members of a relationship has to give up one of his most beloved hobbies to make a relationship work, do you really think that relationship was meant to happen?

I don't think so. Of course, having a significant other means that you are going to have to make some sacrifices and some concessions, but I am stating that it is something that I would not give up just for a relationship with a woman that I am probably not meant to be with in the first place.

Think of it this way: Lets say you are deeply religious and have a very close relationship with God. You enter a relationship with someone else, and everything seems to be going fine, and then the other person tells you: I hate religion and God. I won't date you unless you give up your religion because I think it is sick and disgusting and wrong. Not only is that person telling you to give up your most beloved religion, but they are putting down your faith and your relationship with God. Would you continue to date that person? Would you even feel bad that you broke up? Probably not because you would be glad to be away from such a person.

Well, that's the way I feel about anime. It is as much a part of my life as religion is to others. I can't wait to watch new episodes when they come out. But don't think I am crazy because I am comparing anime to religion. I am not really crazy...those religious people though...well, I won't say any more about that here.

One more thing, about those people who cannot stand people saying anything bad about the anime they love...well, that is simply part of life. Of course people who like anime are going to be offended if you attack anime, the same way people who love religion are going to be offended if you attack religion. The same way people who like comics will defend comics. The same way people who like 24 or Lost will defend those shows if you attack them. You simply notice it, probably because you frequent places not only discussing anime, but also places where trolls or fiends come and talk dirt on anime.

One final note, on those people who say they don't know what they would do with out anime. Well, first off, I am not one of those people. As much as I love anime, I could see myself one day tiring of it. And I also could see other things that I would be into if I wasn't into anime. I like a lot of other things, like TV shows and movies and books. Heck, I even took up oil painting the other day. People may say they don't know what they would do without anime, but in reality that is just a shortsightedness because everyone would find something they liked without anime.

And wow, that was a long comment.