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~Rayden
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3 years 2 months ago
I've done some resech on this series and, i found out that there are a lot of series of gundam, i watched Gundam Wing and liken it but witch other gundam series would you recomend.

Please restrict your post to actual comparison and contrast discussions on the various Gundam series.

If you're going to just list your favourite Gundam series or say a particular Gundam series pwns all (without proper justification), it will be deleted on sight with a deduction of 50 papers.


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$Hostile
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3 years 2 months ago
Gundam Seed. It's *the* Gundam that got me into the series. Some of them are still unwatchable but four of them is good :P

~Someguy
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3 years 2 months ago
Although some may say it is old I reckon Gundam: The 08th MS Team is a good classic.

In comparison to other Gundam series, The 08th MS Team feels scaled back. There are no legendary pilots to be found hereâ??no Amuro Ray's or Heero Yuy's. Instead, we get Shiro Amada, a rookie commander placed in charge of a competent, but unassuming group of soldiers. Missions consist of skirmishing with enemy forces, performing recon operations, and other plebeian duties. Watching these guys, one gets a feel of what the trenches of a Gundam war are like, fighting the insignificant battles that only matter to the immediate combatants.

The members of 08th team are a varied bunch and they are developed nicely during the series. Shirow is the aforementioned rookie commander, and his initial arrival is greeted by wagers on how long he'll last. Also a rookie is Michel, the youngest member of the team, who has an infatuation with writing letters to his beloved "B.B.". A musician named Eledore mans their support vehicle, putting his ears to use listening for enemy activity. The two battle-hardened veterans on the team are Karen and Sanders, both Gundam pilots. Karen is all business, while Sanders bears the unfortunate stigma of being the only survivor from his previous teams.

For some, however, the mecha are the real stars. And for them, The 08th MS Team delivers. Combat scenes are tense, exciting, and well-animated. Part of the tension can be attributed to the setting. Instead of blasting off through outer space, pilots are forced to battle in the cramped and often claustrophobic setting of a dense jungle (mind you, you'll have to disregard the hole in logic that lets them readily traverse such terrain). The first time Shirow engages in ground combat he stumbles, then realizes the dynamics of piloting a Gundam are different with the addition of gravity. It seems like a minor detail, but I love things like these. Another interesting detail is Eledore's use of vibration detection equipment in his support vehicle to keep the pilots informed of the changing battlefield. While the creative team could have stuck in the arbitrary sensors employed in ever other sci-fi story, they made the effort to keep things believable. It works for me.

A common theme in the Gundam saga is painting the conflict in shades of gray. The 08th MS Team is no exception. Over the course of the war, Shirow develops a changing attitude towards combat and his regard for human life. He even bitterly refers to his attitude as "youthful idealism". But it's hard not to be sympathetic towards his feelings, as both sides of the conflict are humanized and demonized. During one episode, focus is on three retreating Zeon pilots that stop in a village for food. There is a moment where one of the pilots gives a village boy a helmet made from an old shell casing. The pilot's joyful reaction to the boy's happiness at receiving such a gift, combined with a picture of his own son in his cockpit, is but one poignant moment when you realize that the participants in the war are human. In contrast, other members of the Federation and Zeon forcesâ??particularily those in chargeâ??are portrayed as cold and heartless.

With an exotic setting and numerous doses of action, the production values of The 08th MS Team more than keep up. The artwork is at times gorgeous to look at. I remember pausing more than once to admire a detailed close-up of a Gundam. The animation, despite a few awkward scenes, is generally fluid and compliments the artwork. The music, on the other hand, is a mixed bag. The opening or ending themes consist of standard J-pop that does not do justice to the visuals they are matched with. Background themes, however, are consistently moving, especially during some of the more intense scenes.

The only real element in The 08th MS Team I did not enjoy was the inclusion of a forced, half-hearted love story. But aside from that, the engaging characters, excellent story telling, and healthy doses of good old-fashioned mecha combat makes this series a no-brainer for mecha fans.

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~Kumoitte
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3 years 2 months ago
Mobile Suit? That guy had a red jumpsuit. :win:

I never understood Gundam. Not the plot and shit, but the hype. I'll watch it when it's on friggin' Cartoon Network but that's about it. The only one I actually looked forward to watching (on Cartoon Network, hurray for fanboyism) was the Z. The one where they suited up by having jelly cover them and the Gundam followed their moves or whatever. That show I liked. The others. Random mech fighting to me. SEED I really dislike. The main dude just.. ugh. Anyway. Favorite would hafta be Z.

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~DeltaSniperZ
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3 years 2 months ago
The whole Gundam Saga is great. There are many great series out there. In the AU timelines my favorites are Gundam SEED and Gundam SEED Destiny. My favorite UC is Char's Counter Attack.

~Someguy
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3 years 2 months ago
Everyone seems to like the new stuff like SEED and Desiny but implore you watch the old stuff its really good like ummmm

Gundam : The Movies

If these Gundam movies taught me only one thing, it's to never judge a book by its cover (or in this case, never judge a movie by its previews). I'd seen the AnimeVillage trailer for Gundam and figured it would be one anime I'd never watch (c'mon, you have to admit it does look pretty cheesy). Giant robots aren't really my thing to begin with (although I'm starting to appreciate them thanks to anime like Patlabor, Macross, and now Gundam), but the horribly dated animation just made this movie trilogy look like a joke.

Of course, beauty (and ugliness) is only skin-deep, as this superb trilogy demonstrates. Sure, the art and animation aren't the greatest, and the mechas may look a little hokey (or a lot hokey, to some), but the fast-paced story line and excellent character development easily make up for those few shortcomings.

On the surface, Gundam could easily pass for a simple minded action-fest with little to offer. The whole premise about a giant conflict involving two factions of the human race, coupled with mechas by the boatload, didn't exactly tickle my fancy. However, once I began watching, I was amazed at how much time was devoted to developing the main characters. Even more amazing was that both sides of the conflict were presented more-or-less equally, without the cold-cut "good guys" and "bad guys". While some of the characters are decidedly villainish (I think I just invented a new word), others are a bit gray in their intentions. This was quite refreshing, as it provided a well-balanced cast with likable characters on both sides of the conflict. The entire cast of characters is a little large, but not unmanageable, and they are all wholly developed and believable. And unlike Evangelion and Gunbuster, which also feature young teenagers piloting giant mecha, Gundam actually has reasons that make *sense* for having such a young group of heroes.

The story begins in the year 0079 of the Universal Century. Humans have expanded into deep space, and set up colonies across the galaxy. However, two separate factions have evolved, the Earth Federation and the Duchy of Zeon. Both sides are locked together in a massive interstellar war using advanced fighting machines called mobile suits. A young boy, named Amuro Ray, happens to be on a colony along with the Federation's new Gundam mobile suits. When Zeon forces attack, he is forced to pilot the Gundam, which soon lands him on board a spaceship, White Base, and on an epic adventure across the galaxy.

As previously mentioned, Gundam is about war, so there's plenty of action to go around. The pace of this trilogy is a frantic one, as the crew of White Base continually duel with Zeon forces. The action scenes were surprisingly not that bad, given the quality of the animation. Sure, it's not nearly as exciting to watch as something like Macross Plus, but was still decent given Gundam's age.

The age of these movies, however, is the only real drawback. The art and animation are simply lousy by today's standards, and may end up turning off viewers for that reason alone (which almost happened to me). The sound quality isn't a whole lot better, and there are some cheesy blips and bleeps that sound like they were yanked from some Atari shoot-em-up. The music, though, wasn't too bad for the most part, although some of 70's-style tunes were a little lame for my tastes.

If you're someone who enjoys mecha-oriented anime like Macross and Patlabor, or if you're looking for an interstellar sci-fi epic, then don't miss this movie trilogy. While it may be a bit ugly on the surface, it's got beauty where it counts.

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*Dimsim
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3 years 2 months ago
Wow dude you sure know gundam stuff, I'll try and beat you ummmm theres this gundam I really liked Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket

I was a little thrown off when I started watching this Gundam series. After seeing the movie trilogy, I figured Gundam was all about giant mecha action (albeit really good giant mecha action.) And while I knew the characterization and story wouldn't be skimped on, I certainly didn't expect the good drama I got.

And what a drama it is. Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket is all about a young boy, Alfred, coming face to face with the realities of war and realizing that it's not a game, but a devastating and horrible act of humanity. This is certainly a stark contrast to the trilogy, which seems to emphasize duty and honor, over simpler, more down-to-earth human values. One aspect of this series (which is also true of the movies) is how both sides of the conflict get equal representation. While the Zeon forces are supposed to be the "bad guys", in a technical sense, it's refreshing to see that the Zeon soldiers are normal human beings, and not inherently evil. Even more interesting was the almost venomous shadow cast on Federation Forces, and in the end I wasn't sure which side I was supposed to cheer for. Not that that matters anyway, because Gundam 0080 isn't about good and evil, or right and wrong. It's about people, and how their lives are affected by war.

Alfred, the central character, is ten years old and like his friends, thinks war is a game. To me, this seems frightfully real for I was able to think back to when I was ten creating fictional wars with my toy soldiers. However, when the war comes to his home colony, Alfred soon learns how real people are affected and the great tragedy that war brings. He meets and befriends a Zeon soldier, the somewhat naive but friendly Bernie. It's through Bernie that we are shown that the Zeon forces aren't all bloodthirsty villains, but can be decent people. Of course, I wouldn't go so far as to call Bernie's compatriots "decent people", but they do have their softer moments.

Focusing on war and featuring giant mecha, there is certainly going to be a decent amount of action present. However, the action itself seems completely secondary to the results of the battles, which are depicted with shocking cruelty. One scene, depicting the corpse of a young boy being dragged from under a building, still sticks fresh in my mind. It's quite grim stuff, to say the least.

Now I don't really want to say this, given how much I enjoyed Gundam 0080, but the truth is that some parts seemed a little contrived. There were a few moments when this series gave me a "Disney-esque kiddie adventure" feeling, which I felt was a little unfortunate. Also, some of the music seemed rather out-of-place. There were a few instances which should have been quite suspenseful and emotional, only to be ruined by some annoyingly upbeat tunes.

The bottom line, though, is that Gundam 0080 succeeds quite well it what it sets out to accomplish. Anyone who is looking for a mecha anime with a realistic edge, or an emotional war-time drama, should definitely check out this fine series.

~ZGMF-X20A
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3 years 2 months ago
Gundam Seed is the best in terms of sound, graphic and technology improvement.
But Gundam Wing is better in terms of storyline and cast.
I haven really watched finish other gundam series but i think Turn a Gundam is one of the worst so far i seen.

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But Gundam Wing is better in terms of storyline and cast? I think not the storyline was bland and long winded which left me with a distasteful feeling in mouth.

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~DeltaSniperZ
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3 years 2 months ago
Everyone seems to like the new stuff like SEED and Desiny but implore you watch the old stuff its really good like ummmm

Gundam : The Movies

If these Gundam movies taught me only one thing, it's to never judge a book by its cover (or in this case, never judge a movie by its previews). I'd seen the AnimeVillage trailer for Gundam and figured it would be one anime I'd never watch (c'mon, you have to admit it does look pretty cheesy). Giant robots aren't really my thing to begin with (although I'm starting to appreciate them thanks to anime like Patlabor, Macross, and now Gundam), but the horribly dated animation just made this movie trilogy look like a joke.

Of course, beauty (and ugliness) is only skin-deep, as this superb trilogy demonstrates. Sure, the art and animation aren't the greatest, and the mechas may look a little hokey (or a lot hokey, to some), but the fast-paced story line and excellent character development easily make up for those few shortcomings.

On the surface, Gundam could easily pass for a simple minded action-fest with little to offer. The whole premise about a giant conflict involving two factions of the human race, coupled with mechas by the boatload, didn't exactly tickle my fancy. However, once I began watching, I was amazed at how much time was devoted to developing the main characters. Even more amazing was that both sides of the conflict were presented more-or-less equally, without the cold-cut "good guys" and "bad guys". While some of the characters are decidedly villainish (I think I just invented a new word), others are a bit gray in their intentions. This was quite refreshing, as it provided a well-balanced cast with likable characters on both sides of the conflict. The entire cast of characters is a little large, but not unmanageable, and they are all wholly developed and believable. And unlike Evangelion and Gunbuster, which also feature young teenagers piloting giant mecha, Gundam actually has reasons that make *sense* for having such a young group of heroes.

The story begins in the year 0079 of the Universal Century. Humans have expanded into deep space, and set up colonies across the galaxy. However, two separate factions have evolved, the Earth Federation and the Duchy of Zeon. Both sides are locked together in a massive interstellar war using advanced fighting machines called mobile suits. A young boy, named Amuro Ray, happens to be on a colony along with the Federation's new Gundam mobile suits. When Zeon forces attack, he is forced to pilot the Gundam, which soon lands him on board a spaceship, White Base, and on an epic adventure across the galaxy.

As previously mentioned, Gundam is about war, so there's plenty of action to go around. The pace of this trilogy is a frantic one, as the crew of White Base continually duel with Zeon forces. The action scenes were surprisingly not that bad, given the quality of the animation. Sure, it's not nearly as exciting to watch as something like Macross Plus, but was still decent given Gundam's age.

The age of these movies, however, is the only real drawback. The art and animation are simply lousy by today's standards, and may end up turning off viewers for that reason alone (which almost happened to me). The sound quality isn't a whole lot better, and there are some cheesy blips and bleeps that sound like they were yanked from some Atari shoot-em-up. The music, though, wasn't too bad for the most part, although some of 70's-style tunes were a little lame for my tastes.

If you're someone who enjoys mecha-oriented anime like Macross and Patlabor, or if you're looking for an interstellar sci-fi epic, then don't miss this movie trilogy. While it may be a bit ugly on the surface, it's got beauty where it counts.




I read your post and it is very interesting, very well said. Yes i agree, SEED/Destiny fans should definitly go back to the oldschool UC gundam series. Even thought the UC and the AU gundam series have nothing to do with eachother, watching one from UC, particular 0079 will help you understand the AU's much better. Gundam SEED for example is almost the exact copy of 0079 except with different characters, and different mechanical designs. a boy's home is attacked, he finds himself a gundam and he pilots to defeat the bad guys that attacked his home, then he joins with with a new state of the art battleship and fights as the only gundam onboard they go to a space station to get help but they got their ship and gundam taken away, but the base was undeattack and they escaped. they decided to go to earth but during earth re-entry they ship gets attacked and they go off course into enemy territory....all sounds familiar?? Same thing that happend in SEED also happend in 0079. :)

Like what Dimsim have said, one simple reason why people avoid the oldschool UC Gundam series is simply because of the animation. For me thats the reson. I stayed away from UC Gundam series for a while solely based on its animation and its music. boy was i wrong, the quickness movement of the plot and the uniqueness of the characters instantly attracted me to watch more and more. Before you know it i was totally hooked. the opening song for 0079 sounded really stupid at first but after a while i dunno why but i thought it was really addicting.

anyways a message for you people who are avoiding the UC series simply because its old and bas bad technical stuff. don't avoid it any longer. you won't be dissappointed it is great. Plus it will be like an anime animation history lesson. See how animation has progressed from simple drawings complied together to cg animation.

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~SoraStrife
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3 years 2 months ago
Yeah, like many of the posts, I would recommend Gundam SEED and if you still can keep up with the anime then also watch Gundam SEED Destiny which is the sequel to Gundam SEED. Although Gundam SEED Destiny is in my opinion not as good as Gundam SEED.

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~xxDKxx
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Gundam seed is my fave. It was the first gundam i actually watched and it made me watch the other ones. I think that Gundam Seed was the best and Destiny is also really good.

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$victor
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3 years 2 months ago
I must say the only gundam the US has seen on tv is gundam wing, seed and perhaps destiny later on, i agree with Someguy that 08 team is a good series, and i personally liked Stardust Memory (0083), they had in my opinion the best gundams' GP-01 an enhanced all type gundam, GP-02 more of a heavy armor calvery type...with a nuclear bazooka ^_^, and GP-03 bascially a space type GP-01 with something like the Metor we see Freedom and Justice gundam get locked into, only the flight pack is as big as the Gray Phantom... its much bigger then the metor pack freedom and justice use. Theres also Gundam F-91, Gundam Z and X, i haven't seen gundam Z or X but i do believe the story for them was very good. Then theres the Char's Counter Attack series, which the gundam there is quite nice...but my favoite has been 0083 StarDust Memory.

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~anakaneh
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3 years 1 month ago
My vote goes to Gundam wing. they're my fave one. love the design of the gundam and the chars. Gseed is not bad but i just didnt like tha chars. so many look-a-like. ^^

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~Emily
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3 years 1 month ago
Its times like these when I find myself at a crossroad, gundam wing or gundam seed? I find it really hard to pick I love them both so much! So I've desided to make a list of pros and cons

gundam wing Pros- NO crybabys, Heero's tight shorts, wing custum is so sweet

gundam wing Cons-Relena, not much humor, Trowa's clown suit, pointy eyebrows

gundam seed Pros- Athrun is so hot, character design, great voice acting in the japanese verson

gundam seed Cons- Fllay is an evil bitch, Kira's a crybaby, Kira and Lacus didn't make-out in the end

After thinking for awhile I've come to a conclusion and I pick... GUNDAM SEED cause Yzak is hot