Look at Anime like Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh. Totally abused by americans. Then look at Chinese food, totally abused by Chef Chu's and the like. I'm starting to think that Asia should stay in Asia, or on the internet at the max. I hate the Americanization of Asia. At least the Asians are clever enough to keep making genius material to keep it fresh. AZN Pride!

Anime like Pokemon and Yugi Oh are already bad. I don't think keeping them in Asia would make them any better.

From what I have heard, Chinese food would not appeal to American consumers. Its like a huge amount of rice and small portions of meat.

I was going to ask you if you were Asian yoursef, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone Asian refer to "their pride" as "AZN". Where's the pride in spelling Asian wrong?

Before you make comments like "Totally abused by americans", perhaps you should learn about the US anime industry, and the very large differences between Asian and American cultures.

In reference to "I hate the Americanization of Asia"... well, you'll have to take that up with the "Asians" and big business. Are you saying that it's a problem to have Disney Theme parks and McDonald's in Asia? Now, I took that at face value, but since it seems your english is 'not so good', I assume you meant that in the context of another rant about the changes of Asian properties in the US market. Well, if you don't like it, then feel free to import your merchandise directly from Asia and do not purchase and/or watch anything that has been "Americanized". By the way, your two examples (Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh) are from one very far end of the "Americanization" spectrum, so that's a bit biased.

Dude like wtf are you talking about? Its not that much of a big deal. Well yeah the japanese version of yu-gi-oh is alot better but they just messed with it because they wanted a show that would appeal to the younger little kitties. And also wth are you talking about? Chinese food would not appeal to american consumers? Its like a huge amout of rice and a small portion of meat? Is that all you think azn people eat is rice!? How ignorant.

AZN PRIDE!

It's just something I heard. I am asian btw. I eat rice with every meal. The only time I don't eat rice is when my parents are too tired to cook and get fast food. It's not a baseless assumption to think that asians eat nothing but rice. Asian people, for the most part, incorporate rice in every meal. If you are using absolutist terms, yes asians don't eat just rice, but a lot of the food is rice.

I don't recall stating that my statements about China were fact. It's just something I heard from my history teacher who visited China.

HevnHira

Look at Anime like Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh. Totally abused by americans. Then look at Chinese food, totally abused by Chef Chu's and the like. I'm starting to think that Asia should stay in Asia, or on the internet at the max. I hate the Americanization of Asia. At least the Asians are clever enough to keep making genius material to keep it fresh. AZN Pride!

Seriously... stop being such a hater. Although I am Asian myself, I think it's wrong when people say "Asian Pride" or anything remotely close. What if you were in a room with all white people and they said, "White Pride". It would make you feel excluded and almost hated.

Well being chinese i might as well throw my two cents in.

Yes, we do eat alot of rice, but what do you expect? China is a poor country, and only recently improved thier economical standing. Rice is a staple food, easy to grow and cheap. If China matched America in wealth and standard of living i wouldnt be surprised to see similar health issue pop up. Lets face it given a choice people will eat foods that taste good over foods that are healthy.

and on a completely diffrent tangent...

Carbohydrates are not bad for you! it also depends on what you are eating and exercising. I have seen too many misguided people thinking that the atkins diet is all about not eating carbs. i eat large portions of rice every day and i am way below national wieght average for my height. RICE IS GOOD!!!

Eh...I'm half Asian so I can take either position on this one :) So...where to begin!

Chinese food, I think, does appeal to Americans. One because Chinese food is different and people like different, or well most people do, and two look at Chinese take out and eat in on campuses lol I know if I said to my friends "Hey Chinese sounds good 3 out of 4 times they'll agree lol

Americanization of Asia? Yeah it has become Americanized but that is on Asians, if they like that style then it'll flourish if not it'll fall through.

The whole AZN thing is nothing new to me. I've seen it before and for me at least its kinda fun little thing I'll do every now and again, kinda like a white guy going "Homie G" Personally I don't see anything wrong with being proud of one's heritage, as long as you don't throw it in other people's faces.

But that's just a humble opinion from a humble person...

From what I have heard, Chinese food would not appeal to American consumers. Its like a huge amount of rice and small portions of meat.

Actually Chinese Food does appeal to the average American consumer. There are A LOT of Chinese and Vietnamese restaurants in the U.S. Japanese and Filipino restaurants and cuisines are more of the "scarcity". Among the most common are the "Pho" places...mmm...Pho...now I'm hungry. Rice isn't as big around here as it is in Asia, but it's still included in portions. Good source of carbohydrates needed for energy. I know in my home we eat a lot of rice, but I'm Filipino so it's already a given. And in terms of meat, we have our meat in good portions. Asian taste serves in amountable portions, enough to leave you full and take the rest home. It's not just purely rice.

People often make the misconception that there is a "standard American". The United States is a mixing bowl of all the cultures in the world. There really is no pure "American" apart from the Native Americans who were original to the land. "Americans" for the largest part are primarily of European descent with an equally strong African, Spanish (not just Mexican) AND Asian populations. Each family brings a little something from their culture and integrates it into society.

Asians, I can assume primarily Japanese but correct me if I'm wrong, brought over anime. Anime doesn't just appeal to the asain population. Plus it was also the businessmen who wanted to expand the anime industry into new waters.

Any business, without regard of what country it originates from, will take advantage and profiteer off anything that sells. They'll sometimes sacrifice quality for profits. If you want to blame anything, blame the businessmen who chose to do that, not the country where their offices reside. They will expand. The world, as they see it, is a largely untapped resource.

Your claim and opinion is rather poor if your just using the shows Pokemon and Yugi-Oh to back it up. Are you really asian or just like to make topics like these just to get people's reactions? Be more considerate next time.

I'm starting to think that Asia should stay in Asia, or on the internet at the max. I hate the Americanization of Asia.

Your not clear at all. What country do you live in exactly? Are you arguing against the "Americanization" of Asia? Which means that your starting to see changes in YOUR surroundings that reflect a different culture or society. ...or are you arguing against how the market is starting to shift overseas and are displeased with such because of the results from your said shows and chinese restaurant according to your own opinion?

And Asia should stay in Asia? Where'd it go? I still see it where it's always been on the map. Apart from continental plate shifting, Asia isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Actually, if plate shifting continues, a little part of America might find itself closer to the East. Live long enough to see California break away then the East can have the real OC.

Personally, I think both those shows are overdue for an ending. Ash is STILL 10yrs old isn't he? He doesn't age and they've been on for so many seasons. Just end it all already. And Yugi-Oh, it was alright in the first season, but it's just runnin the same course as Pokemon.

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The whole AZN thing is nothing new to me. I've seen it before and for me at least its kinda fun little thing I'll do every now and again, kinda like a white guy going "Homie G" Personally I don't see anything wrong with being proud of one's heritage, as long as you don't throw it in other people's faces.

Sure, I agree with you =] Pride is a good thing as long as you respect other people, but when using it while having negative views on another culture's interpretation is unnecessary. Geez, it just gets more tense after every new post x]

Hmm,... sounds like you're trying to start a haters thread...

Anyways, to what you said,... Yu-gi-oh and Pokemon are shows that are meant to appeal to younger viewers and when they're translated to English, it's not like they can find the perfect voice actors either. And little kids won't be able to remember all those japanese names, so they change them to english.

(FYI I'm asian myself. I also don't get why the rest of you guys do that AZN pride thing... And I'm not "americanized" if you're guessing. I'm myself!) It's good that you cherish your culture, but don't hmm,...attack (?) others people's cultures. "Americanizng" is a way for people in America (and Canada) to have an easier access to asian related things.

And besides, manga is pretty much the same, it's just translated, thats all. If it weren't for my fav manga magazines "americanizing" the manga, I wouldn't be able to know so much about different titles (the magazines are cheaper than the volumes you see).

Anyways, it's okay to not like the american version (it's your opinion), but don't be harsh about it. If you don't like it, don't use it, use the japanese version.

"Americanizing" might actually be a compliment. People put work into "americanizing" asian things, because they probably like it and want to share it with the rest of their country. They're just trying something new.

Lot's of people I know love chinese food. Also, I'm chinese myself, but I get tired of dim sum sometimes and eat other foods, like greek, lebonese, japanese, etc. (Donairs are delicious!)

OK ok i'm asian(japanese actually not americanized either born in japan move to the US when i was 3) too so i guess i will give my opinion i think that in general asians eat quite a bit of rice and i don't think that it's because of the carbs, or that it taste good, or that it's cheap either i think the reason why is because it is part of the culture rice is built into the people who are asian i mean i don't remember a time where i didn't eat rice 5-6 days a week and i'm not poor, so yea i truely think that it's a cultural thing along with the other reasons (it's cheap, could taste good, and gives you carbs so you can work out)

ok now on a different subject the US or the western world in general kinda screwed some things up for one american use japanese words like chibi, kawaii, and otaku without even knowing what they mean they just use the screwed up american defination WTF! i hate it when someone uses a japanese term and screws it up not only the meaning but the pronunciation i mean i'm japanese and when i speak english i speak english not japanese half the time and english the other half and none of my asian friends do that either ok thats the end of that another thing the western world also screwed up some mangas and animes so that it could reach more people but that is somewhat of a good thing too because they can reach more people there will be in theory more people who like that specific anime they are watching or manga they are reading and again in theory there will be more people going onto the internet to learn more about the manga or the author of the manga or the anime or the director or original creator of the series which mean more people like anime and manga and more people will be introduced to unedited anime and manga which mean more acceptance and a wider reach of unedited manga and anime.

Finally i would like to comment on what KuroiGetsuga, Hevnhira, and rosethorn said i think that expressing pride for your ancestory or race is great but you should also accept and try to proud of the current culture your immersed in like i'm proud to be japanese(not proud of what they did in WWII tho) also i'm proud that i'm Asian finally i'm also very proud that i'm an american but i think that hevnhira and rosethorn are missing the last part but this is just what i think i mean i maybe totally wrong but it's just my opinion so um yea if you read this thanks for taking time to read this

For every1, I live in California, have seen Asia, and can say it looks like any western country. But all the western ideals are technological, not cultural. Americans take cultural aspects, and make them profitable. I guess that's a build on my message.

Wow, this topic was extremely stupid to begin with, obviously written by some jerk without a clue- but I am so proud of my fellow AP members for their comments. This thread is thoroughly enjoyable!

White Pride! lmao..

Correction:

Businesses profit off what they see can and will sell. Key word: Businesses.

Don't generalize or stereotype. Your an American youself. Rather irrational your assumptions. It sounds like you're a "wannabe", a knight trying to uphold the eastern values by denouncing the western world and her ways and thinking you can garner support with your "fellow AZN pride". Quite short-sighted. That's not how it works. Your more likely to be looked down upon than regarded up as.

The American society is made up of many cultures. That's why they try to bring in all of these things here, to cater to all the people who live here. The economy revolves around it. If something is big among the population, then individuals will try and profit off it. It happens all over the world, not just America.

Your also stereotyping the eastern world in your words making it sound like they're all ultra conservative cultural and your just basing it off Pokemon, Yugi-Oh and Chinese food...

Culture comes from traditions, ideals, beliefs, values, the sentiment of the people, and all the small things of their everyday life. Food and show are big parts of it, but don't make up a culture in its entirety. It can't be contained. People want to share their cultural with others. That way, one can appreciate the diversity in the world. Makes life all the more interesting.