A "kissing" scene in Harry Potter 5
Yeah, i think it's fine just a kiss xD the fans are growing up too
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but i still don't like that actress they choose for Cho chang. u_u *and?* in my imagination she was so beautiful ç_ç [/off-topic?]
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but i still don't like that actress they choose for Cho chang. u_u *and?* in my imagination she was so beautiful ç_ç [/off-topic?]
firestormWhats wrong with having the scene??
nothing i guess...
~CieluscianWhat's wrong with a kiss? In modern Western culture, kissing is most commonly an expression of affection. This is unlike many parts of the world where kissing is viewed as a means of respecting others.
~ayuki1386I don't mind..It's just spices. Harry's growing up and so the reader. And it's just a kiss
`KirjavaaI agree pretty much with what Lena said.
Plus, it's not like kissing is anything that adult oriented. People can kiss for different reasons and two kids kissing would definitely not make a movie innapropriate for children. How many disney movies do you remember that ended with the hero and heroine kissing? Too many to count.
In other words, get over it.
get over it? excuse me i was never so not-over it before & WHY IS EVERYBODY HERE TALKING LIKE AS IF SAID IT WAS A DISEASE! i only said it...coz...just like that.
as for ~LenasLover, thanks for providing the information but i have read each book of harry potter like a thousand times. in book five JK didnt descraibe the kiss it was like "...." so i think in the movie it should have been like they should have showed harry & cho gettin really close then...this would have made the viewers more excited leave the rest for their imagination.
I agree with you that there seems to be a bit of overreacting going on, but I also agree with LenasLover, and more importantly ushu.
There is a lot of description of how people are feeling, and what they are thinking in the books. In that, this series is typical. The problem with translating that into movies arises from the respective natures of books and movies.
Many, books are read from the 1st person perspective, which means that you are reading it like it is about you. You know what the main character is thinking, and what they are feeling, and experience what they do. And, those that are not written explicitly in the 1st person (using the words "I", "my", "me", etc.), and use third person ("he", "she", etc.), at least assume an omnipotent reader that can read the thoughts and feelings of every character described. All of this can remove a lot of what is considered the mystery of a situation - the thoughts and feelings behind the actions.
Movies, by contrast, are seen only from the 3rd person perspective, which means you are witnessing the events happen like someone else who was there, but was otherwise unconnected to the events that transpired. All you know is what you can see and hear, and most of the time, unless you have seen what happened before this point as well, the actions of the main characters can be pretty mysterious.
The challenge in translating a book to movie is deciding how to translate that intimate knowledge into an objective portrayal. Unless you tack on either a narrator, who can explain things, or insert a large number of asides where the characters are essentially talking to themselves signifying their thoughts, there is really little you can do to portray complex thoughts and feelings. The only other option is to trump up physical indicators of the internal processes. In this case, it is Harry's internal struggles with dealing with love. Yes, I admit that a very (very very) good actor can portray a large amount of it with body language alone, but, by the same token, you need the audience to be sophisticated enough to pick up on that as well.
So, for the short version, while the kiss was downplayed in the book to add mystery to a situation that lacked any, I think that it is a good decision for the movie to emphasize the kiss to remove the mystery from what can be a relatively confusing situation.
There is a lot of description of how people are feeling, and what they are thinking in the books. In that, this series is typical. The problem with translating that into movies arises from the respective natures of books and movies.
Many, books are read from the 1st person perspective, which means that you are reading it like it is about you. You know what the main character is thinking, and what they are feeling, and experience what they do. And, those that are not written explicitly in the 1st person (using the words "I", "my", "me", etc.), and use third person ("he", "she", etc.), at least assume an omnipotent reader that can read the thoughts and feelings of every character described. All of this can remove a lot of what is considered the mystery of a situation - the thoughts and feelings behind the actions.
Movies, by contrast, are seen only from the 3rd person perspective, which means you are witnessing the events happen like someone else who was there, but was otherwise unconnected to the events that transpired. All you know is what you can see and hear, and most of the time, unless you have seen what happened before this point as well, the actions of the main characters can be pretty mysterious.
The challenge in translating a book to movie is deciding how to translate that intimate knowledge into an objective portrayal. Unless you tack on either a narrator, who can explain things, or insert a large number of asides where the characters are essentially talking to themselves signifying their thoughts, there is really little you can do to portray complex thoughts and feelings. The only other option is to trump up physical indicators of the internal processes. In this case, it is Harry's internal struggles with dealing with love. Yes, I admit that a very (very very) good actor can portray a large amount of it with body language alone, but, by the same token, you need the audience to be sophisticated enough to pick up on that as well.
So, for the short version, while the kiss was downplayed in the book to add mystery to a situation that lacked any, I think that it is a good decision for the movie to emphasize the kiss to remove the mystery from what can be a relatively confusing situation.
Haha! So let 'em kiss. Not like kids aren't gonna see it in the future.
1 year 7 months ago
I honestly don't mind what they do at this point. Rowling has an iron first over what WB does with her baby and they haven't disappointed me yet so if she approves so do at (as long as it is within cannon)
~doramSo, for the short version, while the kiss was downplayed in the book to add mystery to a situation that lacked any, I think that it is a good decision for the movie to emphasize the kiss to remove the mystery from what can be a relatively confusing situation.
i see you look at this way but i am glad that you agreed with me that people did over react a bit.
~ZERO-ENAHaha! So let 'em kiss. Not like kids aren't gonna see it in the future.
i am fine tih it! i like romance alot but i was just saying in accordance with the book.
~ifoundgoldbugI honestly don't mind what they do at this point. Rowling has an iron first over what WB does with her baby and they haven't disappointed me yet so if she approves so do at (as long as it is within cannon)
same here. i like all the movies no matter how much have shortened it. some people complain that WB have done injustice (excluding me) ^_^
PedoBear might show up soon, better watch your backs. I really don't mind it, thought Emma Watson is FREAKIN HAWT1!1!!1!1!
Kissing, huh? I don't see a problem with that. I think because we tend to think the hero is super-human, he doesn't display human traits! LOL, well, doesn't the hero always get the girl? It was needed to show that not only does Harry fight evil, but he wants a normal teenage life as well.
1 year 6 months ago
Well
for the fans is necesary, because is some of favorite part of harry potter, pheonix order, but i prefer a kiss with miss wesleay.
for people that isn´t fan is no too nesesary.
i want really for the movie
but want for the last bock so much!!!
matta ne!!!!
for the fans is necesary, because is some of favorite part of harry potter, pheonix order, but i prefer a kiss with miss wesleay.
for people that isn´t fan is no too nesesary.
i want really for the movie
but want for the last bock so much!!!
matta ne!!!!
What's wrong with that? technically it's more wrong to punch someone or attempt to curse him(to throw up slugs forever), so what's all the fuss about a kiss?
and the Hermione-punching Malfoy scene is my favorite XD
and the Hermione-punching Malfoy scene is my favorite XD
LenasLover
First of all, I think Warner Brothers has done a remarkable job attempting to keep the films as close to the books as they can. Movies are extremely expensive to make, especially when incorporating CG -which costs around 75 cents per frame if I am not mistaken (and there are 28 frames in a second). Because of the expense and the fact that people won't sit though a 6 hour movie (unless it is Gone with the Wind) WB had to cut the films down to the most important pieces. Besides that, they follow Jo explicitly on what she wants the movie to look like, what she wants left in or out, and even follow directional cues by Mrs. Rowling. Do you know how rare it is that a movie studio would follow an author's intentions that closely? Normally a studio will buy out the author so they can molest their work.
I think minimum is 24fps, 28fps is still kinda of sucky though, i do my videos 35
I don't see anything wrong withat kiss scene...it's just something that has to happen in every teenagers life...even a wizard's, it's just a way to show people that the characters are maturing
I havn't seen the movie, but what wrong with having this scene? :OOO
I mean… you're forgetting that Harry is no longer a child but a teenager :O So having a kissing scene is part of proving it to the audience ^^"
But yes, I guess you got a point there that the director has to follow the book :\
I mean… you're forgetting that Harry is no longer a child but a teenager :O So having a kissing scene is part of proving it to the audience ^^"
But yes, I guess you got a point there that the director has to follow the book :\
Some books never translate perfectly or exactly to movies. I think it partly because sometimes you have to fit this HUGE book into a 2 hour movie. So things a bound to get twisted chopped and changed.
How this relates to a miserable kiss (LOL). Well I think in the book, it worked well with how they did it. However translating it into a movie, they might need to change the order of events etc etc to fit around it. Plus when people go to the movies, they want to actually see this 'kiss', it makes for more intersting viewing. Not all people who have seen the movies have read the book, so you are most likely looking at/ targeting a totally different audiance. Reading a book and seeing a movie are two completely different experiances. Which is probably why most book to movies fail.
...sorry for the long winded explaination for the 'kiss' guess I got carried away..LOL
How this relates to a miserable kiss (LOL). Well I think in the book, it worked well with how they did it. However translating it into a movie, they might need to change the order of events etc etc to fit around it. Plus when people go to the movies, they want to actually see this 'kiss', it makes for more intersting viewing. Not all people who have seen the movies have read the book, so you are most likely looking at/ targeting a totally different audiance. Reading a book and seeing a movie are two completely different experiances. Which is probably why most book to movies fail.
...sorry for the long winded explaination for the 'kiss' guess I got carried away..LOL












