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Fat people.
2 years 9 months ago
Don't answer too fast. This is a key question: Would /you/ hook up with, or marry a fatty? Even if you are a fatty, would you prefer a fat girl over a trim girl?
Ignore the fat behavior stereotypes for now, as well as health considerations. Let's assume the fatty exercises regularly(fat people can be healthy with just 30 min of light-medium exercise a day, while still being fat) and eats a controlled diet and isn't suffering any mental disorders.
For all intents and purposes, when you've got a fat person and a non-fat person, the fatter person is worth less to other people. In how many situations would the fatter person be chosen over a thinner counterpart(there /are/ cases, give it a moment of thought)? Now how often does that happen compared to when the question is reversed?
It's great if society tries to be politically correct, saying it's ok to be fat, that's the best you can hope for. But the bottomline is the thinner ones are better, and the fatter ones are worse. You won't convince people that fat doesn't matter.
And just for a change of pace, let's consider the skinny little guys too. Not the athletic six-packers,I mean the guys with all the ribs poking out and the chest that bows inwards instead of outwards. The 100-lb guys that wear t-shirts on the beach. All the above considerations can apply to them when compared to someone with a normal weight.
The point isn't that society should accept aesthetically repulsive figures and view everyone as equal. That's not going to happen. Fat people need to do whatever they can to lose weight, underweight folks need to do whatever they can to gain weight. And when they find out that's not enough(This will often be the case, since requirements will continually be moved higher), they'll just have to learn to accept that they will always be looked down upon for what they look like. Just gotta deal with it. Don't bother wishing it was different or trying to change other people's minds.
Take solace in that fat is a relative term. Look at fat camps, there are fat people there who make other fat people look thin. So don't worry, among other fat people you can be totally normal.
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Ignore the fat behavior stereotypes for now, as well as health considerations. Let's assume the fatty exercises regularly(fat people can be healthy with just 30 min of light-medium exercise a day, while still being fat) and eats a controlled diet and isn't suffering any mental disorders.
For all intents and purposes, when you've got a fat person and a non-fat person, the fatter person is worth less to other people. In how many situations would the fatter person be chosen over a thinner counterpart(there /are/ cases, give it a moment of thought)? Now how often does that happen compared to when the question is reversed?
It's great if society tries to be politically correct, saying it's ok to be fat, that's the best you can hope for. But the bottomline is the thinner ones are better, and the fatter ones are worse. You won't convince people that fat doesn't matter.
And just for a change of pace, let's consider the skinny little guys too. Not the athletic six-packers,I mean the guys with all the ribs poking out and the chest that bows inwards instead of outwards. The 100-lb guys that wear t-shirts on the beach. All the above considerations can apply to them when compared to someone with a normal weight.
The point isn't that society should accept aesthetically repulsive figures and view everyone as equal. That's not going to happen. Fat people need to do whatever they can to lose weight, underweight folks need to do whatever they can to gain weight. And when they find out that's not enough(This will often be the case, since requirements will continually be moved higher), they'll just have to learn to accept that they will always be looked down upon for what they look like. Just gotta deal with it. Don't bother wishing it was different or trying to change other people's minds.
Take solace in that fat is a relative term. Look at fat camps, there are fat people there who make other fat people look thin. So don't worry, among other fat people you can be totally normal.
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I have a lot of fatty-friends(as you call them) but i'm very much skinny myself. as for romantic relationships, i don't mind. as long as i enjoy the person's company then why not.
though i consider other things like hygiene and behavior. it really gives a bad first impression among the fat bunch but not all of them are like that...(at least as far as i can tell, observation with my fat friends)
the fat people are more kind, gentle and humble so you'd definitely wanna make friends with them.
one thing i don't like about the fat bunch is that being fat is dangerous... dangerous enough it can lead you to death. that's why a lot of them try desperately to become thinner just to avoid the health risks...
though i consider other things like hygiene and behavior. it really gives a bad first impression among the fat bunch but not all of them are like that...(at least as far as i can tell, observation with my fat friends)
the fat people are more kind, gentle and humble so you'd definitely wanna make friends with them.
one thing i don't like about the fat bunch is that being fat is dangerous... dangerous enough it can lead you to death. that's why a lot of them try desperately to become thinner just to avoid the health risks...
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2 years 9 months ago
Fat as a health risk has been refuted in medical studies. Our recommendations on health issues are being continually revised as more data is collected in experiments/studies. (They used to recommend steak, eggs, bacon, and hash browns as a healthy breakfast to start off your day. Heh:) )
Obese people who exercise regularly and eat responsibly can be fat without having significantly more risk of heart disease and cardiovascular dysfunction.
The morbidly obese(which is different than simple obesity), where they are so fat that they lose flexibility and mobility are definitely still in danger.
Obese people who exercise regularly and eat responsibly can be fat without having significantly more risk of heart disease and cardiovascular dysfunction.
The morbidly obese(which is different than simple obesity), where they are so fat that they lose flexibility and mobility are definitely still in danger.
I'm going to get straight to the point. Your use of the word "fatty" is really politically incorrect/offensive. Get used to it. In this world this day and age, political correctness can land you in court. Let's use "overweight."
Physical attraction is key and vital sadly. So my guess is that no, I would not be physically attracted to someone who is extremely overwieght, nor extremely emancipated. Health issues come up and the simple fact that it's hard to comfortably make out with someone who is 4x my weight, seeing that I weigh under 100lbs at the height of 5'3 due to my extremely high metabolism. I can chew down a cow and not gain weight. It would devestate my partner if he couldnt eat, but I could.
Physical attraction is key and vital sadly. So my guess is that no, I would not be physically attracted to someone who is extremely overwieght, nor extremely emancipated. Health issues come up and the simple fact that it's hard to comfortably make out with someone who is 4x my weight, seeing that I weigh under 100lbs at the height of 5'3 due to my extremely high metabolism. I can chew down a cow and not gain weight. It would devestate my partner if he couldnt eat, but I could.
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Please don't call me puppychow. *stabs username with a spork* Phoenix will do.
Somewhat true, puppy-chan. there are those issues. those friends of mine actually envy me for my hypermetabolism too, making fun of me in a nice way...
if i were to talk about physical attraction, being "too fat" is out of the question. at least there are fat people who look sexy but extremes are not always that nice of course.
i second that "Heh :)"... it's quite ironic that some illnesses pertaining to fat has a solution of fat(get the pun?)... more of like that movie "Oliver's Oil" though the guy wasn't fat but is rather avoiding fatty food...
if i were to talk about physical attraction, being "too fat" is out of the question. at least there are fat people who look sexy but extremes are not always that nice of course.
kelbearThey used to recommend steak, eggs, bacon, and hash browns as a healthy breakfast to start off your day. Heh:)
i second that "Heh :)"... it's quite ironic that some illnesses pertaining to fat has a solution of fat(get the pun?)... more of like that movie "Oliver's Oil" though the guy wasn't fat but is rather avoiding fatty food...
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I kill for money. But because you are my friend, I'll kill you for free...
kelbearDon't answer too fast. This is a key question: Would /you/ hook up with, or marry a fatty? Even if you are a fatty, would you prefer a fat girl over a trim girl?
I could say yes but honestly i see physical attraction and how fat (sure that each of us've its own standard in acceptance of fat ppl, no?). its okay for me if she (asian) is between 65 - 70 kg (i dunno 1 lb = ?? kg) but regularly workout to keep muscle in shape.
I myself stuck at 70 kg maybe cuz my gene keep it still 70 kg even i keep eating like trash can or diet it still 70 kg
I exercise and workout (lifting weight), my weight rises about 5 kg. so it sums 75 kg, i become pretty well stocky and got well shaped muscles for asian man i guess (sorry, im not six padder yet).
kelbear
For all intents and purposes, when you've got a fat person and a non-fat person, the fatter person is worth less to other people. In how many situations would the fatter person be chosen over a thinner counterpart(there /are/ cases, give it a moment of thought)? Now how often does that happen compared to when the question is reversed?
Well, about this one kinda sad indeed. majority people choose thinner over fat people but i've seen people around me, like one of my friends choose fat one over thin one when i ask him, he just said "i like fat ppl" and they get along well.
mikageryuji
the fat people are more kind, gentle and humble so you'd definitely wanna make friends with them.
yes, i've read articles some times ago about physicological research saying fat people more kind, humble and gentle.
fat people usually've greater risk in health if he/she never exercise bcuz exercise fasten our metabolism to force out bad cholesterol that stuck in our bloodline and from what i read, fat itself not harmful (maybe?)
I know heaps of people wouild peg rocks at me for saying this, but i'd prefer trim women instead of 'fatty'.
My RAZON for this answer is because i find that trim people are more 'disciplined', though your example kel bear of that fat person excercising and eating healthy sorta gives me an idea that this person...chooses to live fat...in the same way how someone chooses to live at the beach etc.
A bit hard to understand but i mean like "i live this way cause i feel like it"
I used to be fat (120kg) and then i decided to change myself so i ran, ab crunched, protein only eat, no chocolate etc etc etc now i'm about 70-75 and everyone calls me skinny, but i find that i can do more things now..i want to join the army soon. heaps of girls check me out and i had no idea that i had this potential (real modest yah i know!).
This is sorta saying that i chose to change my lifestyle so that i can be more disciplined with myself in order to live better.
now i'll go and walk outside or something and try to take cover from rocks :S
My RAZON for this answer is because i find that trim people are more 'disciplined', though your example kel bear of that fat person excercising and eating healthy sorta gives me an idea that this person...chooses to live fat...in the same way how someone chooses to live at the beach etc.
A bit hard to understand but i mean like "i live this way cause i feel like it"
I used to be fat (120kg) and then i decided to change myself so i ran, ab crunched, protein only eat, no chocolate etc etc etc now i'm about 70-75 and everyone calls me skinny, but i find that i can do more things now..i want to join the army soon. heaps of girls check me out and i had no idea that i had this potential (real modest yah i know!).
This is sorta saying that i chose to change my lifestyle so that i can be more disciplined with myself in order to live better.
now i'll go and walk outside or something and try to take cover from rocks :S
2 years 9 months ago
I'm not really FAT myself but I'm also not thin! I have OK proportions but I'm on a diet at moment.
but to your question: YES. I would marry a man whos has OVERWEIGHT if I LOVE him! O_O; Love doesn't exist on the outside, love exists on the inside. and if you LOVE a person then the outside isn't important anymore. Thats MY opinion to that.
My boyfriends 'til now were all thin, but not because I'm just loving THIN persons. don't know why... It just came like this... O_O;
but to your question: YES. I would marry a man whos has OVERWEIGHT if I LOVE him! O_O; Love doesn't exist on the outside, love exists on the inside. and if you LOVE a person then the outside isn't important anymore. Thats MY opinion to that.
My boyfriends 'til now were all thin, but not because I'm just loving THIN persons. don't know why... It just came like this... O_O;
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2 years 9 months ago
kelbearDon't answer too fast. This is a key question: Would /you/ hook up with, or marry a fatty? Even if you are a fatty, would you prefer a fat girl over a trim girl?
Ignore the fat behavior stereotypes for now, as well as health considerations. Let's assume the fatty exercises regularly(fat people can be healthy with just 30 min of light-medium exercise a day, while still being fat) and eats a controlled diet and isn't suffering any mental disorders.
For all intents and purposes, when you've got a fat person and a non-fat person, the fatter person is worth less to other people. In how many situations would the fatter person be chosen over a thinner counterpart(there /are/ cases, give it a moment of thought)? Now how often does that happen compared to when the question is reversed?
It's great if society tries to be politically correct, saying it's ok to be fat, that's the best you can hope for. But the bottomline is the thinner ones are better, and the fatter ones are worse. You won't convince people that fat doesn't matter.
And just for a change of pace, let's consider the skinny little guys too. Not the athletic six-packers,I mean the guys with all the ribs poking out and the chest that bows inwards instead of outwards. The 100-lb guys that wear t-shirts on the beach. All the above considerations can apply to them when compared to someone with a normal weight.
The point isn't that society should accept aesthetically repulsive figures and view everyone as equal. That's not going to happen. Fat people need to do whatever they can to lose weight, underweight folks need to do whatever they can to gain weight. And when they find out that's not enough(This will often be the case, since requirements will continually be moved higher), they'll just have to learn to accept that they will always be looked down upon for what they look like. Just gotta deal with it. Don't bother wishing it was different or trying to change other people's minds.
Take solace in that fat is a relative term. Look at fat camps, there are fat people there who make other fat people look thin. So don't worry, among other fat people you can be totally normal.
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Before clicking that reply button, consider the content of the post rather the poster.
I would also like to encourage the reading the replies of those who've posted before you. It helps create an ongoing discussion.
My friends round me is not fatty boy or girl.We beileve that a fatty person easilys gets dieases
So they prefer doing exercises at least 30 minutes rather than just eating fatty food
In my opinion,people always think fatty person look likely an unhealthy one but I don't care
Alot of people have eating disorders and stuff and can be rid of it over time. I Prefer middle weight size girls... not to skinny not to big, but no dating a large girl wouldn't bother me as long as i knew she was tring to change her eating habits and get thinner "Not saying that she should starve herself, or throw up... but reasonable eating habits and excersize will make anyone lose weight".
2 years 9 months ago
Hm....
Personally I would prefer average girls with a nice personality I can live with.
A true relationship would probably be vital but that clearly isn't the case now as we are discussing overweight or just skinny right?
I would have to say I'd be attracted to the skinny counterpart due to human nature (or guy nature) to be with a girl smaller than themselves.
I just can't imagine myself going out with a girl like twice my size and saying shes my girl.
I can imagine me going out with a skinny girl and saying it tho. - People would just say shes way past a diet. =p
Lol...
Anyways I ain't overweight or really skinny (at least at the moment - better keep those exercise laps coming)
but I believe that working out and I mean real hard exercise is very important.
I just like physical appearances that are seemingly healthy and well toned.
This does not apply to the extent of 6 packs and huge biceps.
Especially the girls - Please try to say with the feminine curves~~~~ I beg ya all~~~~
I myself just work out trying to get my body to greater levels without showing it.
I mean this in the way that I want to be really really strong and healthy without like showing any muscle at all.
Its more like building intense focused muscles instead to making them bulge and big.
Sort of like hidden strengh in animes - what can I do I'm obsessed to be like em. >.<
Lol.....impossible?
Might be but I'll keep trying.
Personally I would prefer average girls with a nice personality I can live with.
A true relationship would probably be vital but that clearly isn't the case now as we are discussing overweight or just skinny right?
I would have to say I'd be attracted to the skinny counterpart due to human nature (or guy nature) to be with a girl smaller than themselves.
I just can't imagine myself going out with a girl like twice my size and saying shes my girl.
I can imagine me going out with a skinny girl and saying it tho. - People would just say shes way past a diet. =p
Lol...
Anyways I ain't overweight or really skinny (at least at the moment - better keep those exercise laps coming)
but I believe that working out and I mean real hard exercise is very important.
I just like physical appearances that are seemingly healthy and well toned.
This does not apply to the extent of 6 packs and huge biceps.
Especially the girls - Please try to say with the feminine curves~~~~ I beg ya all~~~~
I myself just work out trying to get my body to greater levels without showing it.
I mean this in the way that I want to be really really strong and healthy without like showing any muscle at all.
Its more like building intense focused muscles instead to making them bulge and big.
Sort of like hidden strengh in animes - what can I do I'm obsessed to be like em. >.<
Lol.....impossible?
Might be but I'll keep trying.
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2 years 9 months ago
Don't miss the point that it's not about the personality. If you say that Fat people are nicer, you're implying that skinny people are worse.
We're talking about just the fat on them. A nice skinny person and an equally nice fat person. You wouldn't pick the fat version. Fat reduces your value.
We're talking about just the fat on them. A nice skinny person and an equally nice fat person. You wouldn't pick the fat version. Fat reduces your value.
Dude, what the hell are you smoking? Different strokes for different folks is what I'm saying here...
To be frankly blunt, I am NOT attracted to skinny girls or the kind of girls you see on magazines and tv. For me, most of them are too skinny and too...."presented"...if that makes any sense. I am a fairly skinny person, have a nice slim body, decently muscular...but I typically don't go for girls with the equivalent physique. In fact...I've dated some rather BIG girls...girls you are probably considering "fatties". Attraction for me goes beyond body shape and lies more in their personality, eyes, smile, and hair (ok, basically their face). I'm not alone in this respect either, even if most people/guys are NOT like this.
I'd also like to point out that whether you're fat, skinny, square, or triangular, someone's body shape does not say ANYTHING about their personality. I am definately going to argue against the claim in here that overweight people are nicer than skinny people. I declare BS! There are an equally wide range of personalities withing each category of body shape and weight.
Lastly, to answer this question:
Exactly. Seriously, can you get any more offensive. Listen up, there are plenty of people in the world who do not date a girl based on looks or weight. I myself am in this category.I'm going to get straight to the point. Your use of the word "fatty" is really politically incorrect/offensive. Get used to it. In this world this day and age, political correctness can land you in court. Let's use "overweight."
To be frankly blunt, I am NOT attracted to skinny girls or the kind of girls you see on magazines and tv. For me, most of them are too skinny and too...."presented"...if that makes any sense. I am a fairly skinny person, have a nice slim body, decently muscular...but I typically don't go for girls with the equivalent physique. In fact...I've dated some rather BIG girls...girls you are probably considering "fatties". Attraction for me goes beyond body shape and lies more in their personality, eyes, smile, and hair (ok, basically their face). I'm not alone in this respect either, even if most people/guys are NOT like this.
I'd also like to point out that whether you're fat, skinny, square, or triangular, someone's body shape does not say ANYTHING about their personality. I am definately going to argue against the claim in here that overweight people are nicer than skinny people. I declare BS! There are an equally wide range of personalities withing each category of body shape and weight.
Lastly, to answer this question:
My answer would be that there is not enough information to give an answer. No one is perfectly equal, and since I am attracted more by someone's personality than their looks (for me they are closely tied together), I would have to go with which ever one I had more in common with, had more fun with, and was more comfortable with and I can guarantee that their weight would not be the slightest factor.We're talking about just the fat on them. A nice skinny person and an equally nice fat person. You wouldn't pick the fat version. Fat reduces your value.
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2 years 9 months ago
It depends on who keeps themselves more aware of outside events... a skinny person can just stay inside all day and a "fatty" as you call it can be outside doing something... id rather be with the person who likes to be outside... its not the size of the person its what they do with thier time is what im worried about... a person who cant take care of themselves doenst need other people to hold their hand for them... life doesnt feed you results you grow it on your own... iono if that makes sense or not
I think that as some of you said, physical attraction is important... however, it does not mean that overweithed people (nicer word than fat as puppychow16 said ;)) are not attractive...
I think that some people showing overweight can still be attractive, in addition, and because physical attraction is not everything, I think that personality is capital... I'm not implying that people with overweight are nicer, I'm just saying that we better know a person before judging her or him...
I think that I would not mind marrying or being with a person suffering from overweight.
I think that some people showing overweight can still be attractive, in addition, and because physical attraction is not everything, I think that personality is capital... I'm not implying that people with overweight are nicer, I'm just saying that we better know a person before judging her or him...
I think that I would not mind marrying or being with a person suffering from overweight.
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