Which would you prefer, blue rays by japan and HDDVD are by US

Only difference is that japans version if alot more expensive but it can go up to 80gigs

xD check out the new sony laptop, sweet but cost about 7.2k SGD

80Gbs??? I though It had only 50Gb on dual layer while HD-DVD has 30Gb but tell me if I'm wrong.
Personally I prefer BlueRay, it has mome capacity and it will be supported by PS3, so a lot of stuff will be released on it.

You are right
Blu-Ray
ROM single layer: 23.3 / 25GB
ROM dual layer: 46.6 / 50GB
RW single layer: 23.3 / 25 / 27GB
RW dual layer: 46.6 / 50 / 54GB
Highest test: 100GB
Theoretical limit: 200GB

HD DVD
ROM single layer: 15GB
ROM dual layer: 30GB
Highest test: 45GB
Theoretical limit: 60GB

I prefer Blu-ray because of PS3 but it cost more than HD DVD

If you scratch a blu ray disc, more information will be damaged than a dvd disc.

i believe hd dvd would boom off since its cheaper (discs and disc players)

p.s. ** xbox 360 will have a hd dvd add on soon
***hd dvd is also japan since its first unit is from Toshiba...a japanese company who also created the first compact disc

HD-DVD is backed by Toshiba, NEC, Sanyo, Microsoft, Intel, and Universal Studios.

Blu-Ray is backed by Apple, Hewlett Packard, Hitachi, LG Electronics, Lions Gate Movies, Metro-Goldwyn-Maye, Mitsubishi Electric Corporation, Panasonic, Paramount Studios, Pioneer, Philips, Plextor, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, Sun Microsystems, TDK, Thomson, Twentieth Century Fox, Verbatim, Vivendi, VU Games, Walt Disney Pictures and Television, Warner Bros, and well over 100 others listed here.

170 people can't all be wrong - it's pretty obvious which format is more promising.

Also, TDK has announced they have created a blue-ray disk that holds 200gb per side (sextouple layer).

I don't know man, especially Sony is putting so much money in the Blu Ray technology (note that most movie companies meantioned by v0dka are owned by Sony), it's actually convincing me. When the discussion started about Blu Ray and HD DVD, I chosed the last, just because it would have a bigger chance to get accepted by the consumer than Blu Ray (not it had a pretty strange design back then, a bit like the UMD disks for PSP). But as I said, Sony and other companies are putting so much effort in promoting Blu Ray and the higher capacity of that system... I don't know. I really don't. In the end it will be the price deciding which system will win, so I'll just wait and see.

O.o honestly i like sony :P and i'm a general fan of it, i've got a sony laptop, mp3, ps2 :P etc.. you get the picture

Sony is basically promoting stuff which eaither will work very well or...fail completely o.o;;'

japan's technology > rest of worlds!

Right now, HD-DVD is the better technology. For video, it uses VC-1 (instead of MPEG, which BD-ROM uses currently - it's technically capable of both, but nothing has used it yet) and uncompressed audio (BluRay, again, uses compressed audio). HD-DVD also has a more recognisable moniker (come on, everybody knows what DVD is), which gives it an unfair advantage in the marketplace anyway.

As far as technical differences are concerned, both technologies use the same wavelength of laser, however Sony's manufacturing process puts the data layer closer to the surface of the disc. To be honest, it could go either way, however I suspect there will be players that play both formats before one emerges victorious (if one ever does).

slacker89

japan's technology > rest of worlds!

Yes, that's why the entire world uses microprocessors and software designed in the United States, why the US and Canada have the most well-known high-end home theater electronics companies, and why three of five of the world's fastest road-going cars come from Europe. Japan is ahead in some areas, yes, but saying their technology as a whole is superior to the rest of the world is just stupid.

Fine xD their gadgets > rest of worlds
should check out their phones xD

O.O except their fish, their still far behind in that, They dont cook it yet =D

For those wondering which format will dominate, all you need to do is look at the missions of such formats and comparitively look at who is supporting each...the primary function of these formats is for HD video and audio content, not games...has anyone looked at the current dvd standard? while most movies can easily fill a DVD9 (~8.5GB), a pc/console game has a very hard time filling that space, unless they dont use compression on anything...a disc that can hold 30/50/80/whatever gb of space is useless unless there's something to fill that space...

as of yesterday, i believe, there are only 2 major movie studios (besides sony itself) to help sony sell their BD standard to the residential buyer: disney and fox (fox is supporting both BD and HD DVD) ...almost all of the remaining studios have sided with HD DVD...why? simply put, hd dvd is cheaper, easier to produce, and easier to convince consumers that the purchase is worth doing...

but, if your like me, you wont side either way yet, as the dust has yet to settle...anyone remember the dvd+ VS dvd- that was happening in the early dvd burners? then the dual format (+/-) units were developed, and it didnt matter which you liked better, as one drive would read and write both discs...

back to BD and HD DVD...ricoh announced a couple weeks back (i dont have a link, unfortunately) that they had developed a hybrid laser mechanism that would read both formats, but they had yet to get that laser to write to both...they are still working on it tho, and with any luck, a consumer model will be ready to produce not long after both formats make their official debuts...

personally, i dont care wich format prevails, as they both have benefits and problems...i expect sony to have a hard sell with the ps3...nevermind how many people are supporting it...how many of you will actually buy one within a year of its release? changes the question a bit, doesnt it?...but, this thread isnt about consoles, so i'll migrate back on-topic...

blue ray does appear to have the advantage technologically, but so did betamax...anyway, as the discs for either format will undoubtedly be ungodly expensive, i'll stick with my dvd5 format for the time being...and dont get me started on how easy it'll be to convert a BD/HD DVD movie to divx/xvid/mpeg4...the copy protections they use today are a joke...the last released version of dvd decryptor is about a year old (correct me if i'm wrong), and it still breaks the encryption like a 64 bit passphrase...it's really just a bad joke...

anyway, i'll wait for a hybrid to be perfected before jumping on any bandwagon, and i'll continue to use my current tech until then...(as i'm sure most people will do anyway)...

joll69

as of yesterday, i believe, there are only 2 major movie studios (besides sony itself) to help sony sell their BD standard to the residential buyer: disney and fox (fox is supporting both BD and HD DVD) ...almost all of the remaining studios have sided with HD DVD...why? simply put, hd dvd is cheaper, easier to produce, and easier to convince consumers that the purchase is worth doing...

Uh, no.

The following Studios back HD-DVD:
Universal Studios

The following Studios back Blu-Ray:
Universal Studios
Lions Gate Studios
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios
Paramount Studios
Twentienth Century Fox
Disney Studios
Warner Brothers Studios
1K Studios

Orchid

Right now, HD-DVD is the better technology. For video, it uses VC-1 (instead of MPEG, which BD-ROM uses currently - it's technically capable of both, but nothing has used it yet) and uncompressed audio (BluRay, again, uses compressed audio).

HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, in their current forms, both support the exact same codecs - MPEG2, VC-1, and H.264, and both of them support lossless audio.

v0dka

HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, in their current forms, both support the exact same codecs - MPEG2, VC-1, and H.264, and both of them support lossless audio.

Yes, both of them support VC-1 and lossless audio, however no software currently out on BluRay makes use of it, which, if you were reading closely, you would have noticed that I stated: "(instead of MPEG, which BD-ROM uses currently - it's technically capable of both, but nothing has used it yet)" From a software standpoint, at this given moment, HD-DVD is superior.

@v0dka
check your facts...i said "i believe", not that i was right...ur list of who is supporting hd dvd is a tad short...fox is supporting both, time warner has decided to wait (last i saw anything; this may have changed..), and since warner bros. is owned by time warner, they're rolled into that too...universal announced they're not supporting blu-ray...google it...mgm, lions gate, paramount, etc are owned by majority by some parent company, beit disney, time warner, fox, sony, or some other company that has too much money in its bank accounts...

twentieth centry fox is the same company as fox, just the full name...and who is 1k studios? i dont recognize that name...what recent movies have they released? i'm asking cuz i really dont know...

and all of this hubbub doesnt change the fact that both of these HD media formats are expensive! the price of the retail xbox 360 hd dvd reader unit was leaked from a japanese source...i forget the exact yen cost, but it was about 200USD...seems steep to me...after all, it's just a damn disc reader! not to mention that u'll need a 720p, 1080i, or 1080p HD set to take advantage of all those extra lines...IMO, HD discs are a dumb idea until more people start getting HD sets...it's like playing a xbox1/ps2 on a 13" tv, then replacing the xbox1/ps2 with an xbox360/ps3...would anyone be able to see the difference on such a low-res, tiny display? probly not..and if ya do see a difference, it wont be too significant..i've seen the difference between the xbox1 and the xbox360, and it seems m$ did a nice job on it...i'll never buy one, as i'm not much of a fan of consoles, but i can still play around with a friend's unit for kicks, cant i? :P

I prefer Blu-ray Discs because it's more a new technology to me compare to HD-DVD which just increase the number of layers on the disc.

If Blue Ray supports 50gb of data...then that easily doubles what my PC's hard drive holds.

I have no need for such a massive capacity. I'm just going let the dust settle on this debate...In the mean time I'm buying a new Hard drive.