Okay guys, here is an open topic, am 21 years old, never smoked, never drink, and never did the thing, never going to do any ( please, the quote never say never, please keep it for others, am not like others, please read the topic full before answering ) so, back to what i was saying, my reasons are, pride, proud to be considered weird (am said to be complexed, but those same guys are the ones who makes fun of people who are different, so yeah, i gotta be proud, else, i'd be doing lot way nicer things than being proud to show them how it's awesome to be fooled around ), unique, not like others, but mainly cause, it's what makes me, me, because, not doing these things, makes it more tough for people to figure who you are and what are your taste, which i think is better, cause when you read a person as if you read an open book, it's what leads people to write nonsense in it, and then throw it away most of the time, i'd prefer dying that to know me wasting my time on cell credits for a girl or smoking everyday, plus, everyone has been once weak in his/her life, even me too i had my weak times, but i try to prove myself everyday that i got few or barely nothing to be compared to normal(general/common people) and don't fall for things like drugs, night clubs, and so many other stuffs that people use as excuse to bring forward more social relationships, if you get the picture, and always bring down this silly excuse"life is short, so try out everything" so my question would be, how many of you here, are over 18, and never went beyond the lines in any of these bad addictions (solutions to depression and so, like some say), am the kind of person that will never change for others unless am really doing something bad, could even say my personality is close to dr.house for those who knows, but am wondering, for those who are the same age as me, and who never smoked or drink alcohol or stuff, what are your reasons? only because it's bad? or because there's more? are you treated by others around you differently? in what ways?

and for those who did pass these lines but knows the limits not to break through or who are deep into these things, are free to share their opinion, as i said, it's a open topic, not judging anyone, just sharing our lifestyle and see we made logical reasons of our own to stick to it or not, I'd seize that last line to say also, that am aware that people who once passed these lines aren't necessary bad people, there are some who were able to set back their priorities even if they've harmed themselves one or developed some of these little habits

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I'm 28 and I have never done drugs or smoked. I abstained from alcohol until I was well over the drinking age, and even when I drink now- it is maybe 2 or 3 drinks a week.. and I don't drink to get drunk.

For me- I've never wanted to be like everyone else. When I was in high school and watching other kids misbehave- It was always my opinion that they were weak. Weak to give into what other kids thought was 'cool' and was actually just stupid. Smoking is just plain vile and drugs are addictive and make you lose control. Why would I ever want to jepordize myself for the sake of looking cool to people I care nothing about? Why would I put myself in a situation where I woke up the next morning and couldn't remember what happened the night before?

If other people want to smoke, drink, get wasted- I really don't care. It doesn't bother me. I wouldn't judge them for wanting to relax or enjoy themselves. The only thing that makes me lose respect for people like that is when they do it for someone else. I can't stand that. People need to be, act and think for themselves.

I'm 20 and I've never done done drugs or drank or smoked or anything. I plan on keeping it that way, as I don't see a point in doing any of that. I don't stay away from it because I think I'm better, I do it because I just think it's stupid.

Actually, LenasLover said almost exactly how I feel. Only difference is I'm not exactly old enough to drink but I don't plan on drinking or gambling once I turn 21 anyway.

I'm 23, and I've never done any drugs or smoked. I do drink, but it's a once and a blue moon thing, and usually only on fridays at work (yes, AT work). I had a lot of friends that did drugs and/or smoked. I mean...I went to art school. I was the weird one for not doing anything like that. My reasons for not? I never needed to. All my friends always said it made them deeper and more creative. I've never had a problem with being creative, and if I do go through a creative block of some kind, I just wait it out.

I've seen how drugs can change people, and as much as they don't want to admit it it's an escape, and a way to change the self that they don't like if even only for a few moments. If they want to do it, to each his own, but I can feel confident in the fact that I don't need to, nor will I ever.

Reply to Lenaslover, I like a lot your answer, you did mention some points I did miss, like, doing stuffs to please other people is one of the many stupid things created over the past years as excuse for more social contacts, tssssk, but, it's good to know that not everyone falls in these silly traps, but what annoys me more is, when people say " you can't know if something's bad before you try ", i'd usually reply " do i need to try to kick you for you to know if it hurts or not ", come on, nowadays, smoking, wearing indecent wears, taking drugs, or cutting your arms or sleeves is becoming fashion and a way to catch attention of others, could people be any stronger? aren't we humans afterall? isn't having a mind a difference? even if we are all individuals, we are supposed most of us to be strong and intelligent, not the inverse, why general people have to be on the bad side of life?

which reminds me another thing, people who smokes or experienced "life" as they claimed, says that they want to live their life at the max, I mind sound arrogant and stupid but, can life be measured on a ruler or something? how can you know if you did live it to the max, and who said that by doing everything means you did live it to the max, people has pervertise almost everything, am wondering what's left

reply to Kalico, it's a good thing that you didn't go for smoke and all, but why being weak towards drinking? something i forgot to mention at the start of the thread, is that, even when people say am weird or stuffs ( and believe me, considering the life i had, if smoking and drugs were really a way to take stress and burdens away, then i'd have all the reasons of the wolrd to fall for everything ) instead of feeling lonely or so, i feel nice, because, i feel clean, i don't need to smoke to have 400 friends who don't even know what the term means, there's a difference between ( another dr house quoting, lol ) between a teamate/classmate and a friend, a teamate/classmate is someone you'll meet only at work/school, send cards once a while for festivals or birthdays, and forget about each other and then meet 10 years ago with just a hi, long time no see, while a friend, it's different, it's someone who'll accept you the way you are, why not have 2 of them instead of having 400 of those i mentioned above? the thing am kinda living bad lately, is, that, in my new job, aside of my coordinator, the 4 guys in my team, all do smoke, plus 2 other girls, tell me yourself, 1. how can a girl, who's supposed to be according to the image, the better side of man, be falling so low, and 2. am more depressed than those 4 guys around, and still, i do smarter jokes, and i never touched anything they did, they are even planning to go to night club at the end of the month, why? to relax, to spend sometime together, isn't there more decent and clean ways to spend time together?

reply to Poey, sorry for the disorder in the replies, so 21 is the age turning adult in your country, does it make any difference? i mean, here it's 18, so many parents would let their children go free around 14 or 16 already, or the children themselves will go wild before 15, but does the 21 yr old line reduces the amount of teenagers going for dirty or stupid addictions?

maverickslayer

reply to Kalico, it's a good thing that you didn't go for smoke and all, but why being weak towards drinking?

Simple. I like the taste of rum. I don't drink to get drunk, and I've never been drunk. you can still drink small amounts of alcohol and be unaffected. I don't go out to clubs and get drunk, SI imply enjoy the taste of rum, or Bacardi and Smirnoff malt drinks once and a while. No different from the people who like to drink wine.

maverickslayer

1. how can a girl, who's supposed to be according to the image, the better side of man, be falling so low, and 2. am more depressed than those 4 guys around, and still, i do smarter jokes, and i never touched anything they did, they are even planning to go to night club at the end of the month, why? to relax, to spend sometime together, isn't there more decent and clean ways to spend time together?

It's not that girls are falling low, it's that advertising, and men have pushed them that way. I can't speak for smoking, but I know even I sometimes feel the pressure. It's the reason that women wear make-up, get boob jobs and plastic surgery. Usually girls are happy with themselves until men make it clear they're not interested. Also, other girls are cruel and will tell them they're ugly/fat/whatever, but when a guy says it or even just shows it on his face, it has much more impact.
as for the nightclub thing, I have coworkers that do that as well. We work right next to a nightclub called Halo. It's not that they go there to smoke or drink or whatever, it's just a place to go and be really informal. One of the places me and my coworkers, as well as may other people that work in my area is called the Vortex and it's just a burger joint/bar. We'll go there for lunch sometimes because it's very very informal (most of the waiters/waitresses have piercings everywhere, are covered in tattoos and wear next to nothing).
Just because people go to nightclubs or parties doesn't make them bad people. It's just an informal way to socialize, sit back and enjoy some drinks and chat. Some people take it to far though.
Personally none of thats for me, but thats what it's all about.

21 is just the age when you're allowed to drink and gamble and things like that. You get pretty much all of your important adult legal right when you turn 18.

(I'm in the United States by the way)

Kalico

Simple. I like the taste of rum. I don't drink to get drunk, and I've never been drunk. you can still drink small amounts of alcohol and be unaffected. I don't go out to clubs and get drunk, SI imply enjoy the taste of rum, or Bacardi and Smirnoff malt drinks once and a while. No different from the people who like to drink wine.

Here here. I agree 100%.

Why is the rum gone?

I'm almost 20 and i never smoked, never tried any drugs, never went to any night club or pub, never had any girlfriend, never had sex, i don't drink alcoholic stuff, i don't even drink coffee. I bury myself in anime, manga, videogames, mmo and stuff like that, and never cared about being social or being weird.

I'm 18 and I'm clean like you guys. But i do drink but not excessively, just respecting other people by accompanying them. I cannot stop them because it is what they want to do and i have no control over that.
Well, what keeps me from these bad habits is that I have seen many that I have lost to drugs and alcohol. I do not want my loved ones to suffer from it.
And example is my elder brother who goes on a drinking binge every night and wakes up late for work every morning. It's just heart breaking to see my mom crying in her room all day sometimes and seeing my dad working till late to pay off my brothers gambling debts when he was supposed to be retired 2 years ago.
So yeah, I'm gonna keep going and hopefully get a stable job after my studies and support the family too.
Staying sober is great in many ways like watching your friends drunk could be very entertaining too sometimes = )

I just don't see the point the drinking and getting drunk, from my point of view it just looks stupid. My dad fed me alcohol as a kid but I never liked the taste of it, and in hindsight it was pretty stupid of him to do that. I definitely haven't taken any drugs and I'm 19 right now and I definitely don't plan on doing any of that stuff, including smoking. Every time I walk out of my university, there's usually a bunch of people smoking in front of the mall area and it pisses me off, and I always hold my breath and walk by them as fast as I can. Simply put, if I think something is bad for your health, just don't go near it.

It actually pissed me off immensely last week when I was driving my dad to the airport at around 9 at night, and there was still a bit of traffic around. I was driving over a small, curving bridge when the red Honda Fit that had been driving right beside me all along cut in front of me and eventually came into my lane. It wasn't sudden, it was gradual, like slowly entering the lane and almost clipping the front-right of the car I was driving. After the road straightened out the guy in the Fit would slowly drift into the other lane, then suddenly correct his line and come back. Experiences like this just makes me wonder why alcohol and beer even exist. It pissed me off even more that it was a Fit to begin with, but that's a whole other matter. I guess it's not just stupid, it can be pretty hazardous as well. There's a reason why people don't intentionally disturb beehives or eat poison and that's because they're harmful. Other people have listed the consequences such habits can have and it just makes me wonder...why get into it in the first place?

I hear people get into drugs and smoking because they get depressed...but I still don't see how you can solve anything by getting into that stuff. If I ever get stressed out, go out to an empty parking lot at night and pull your ebrake like I've been doing recently, or go play CoD4 and twist the necks out of some virtual dogs like I told my friend recently.

Stuff like night clubs, strip clubs, and bars seem pretty stupid to me as well, and it's not just because they sell alcohol. They just seem like a stigma to society, not just the clubs but the people who go there. If those are place where you go to get social relationships, those relationships will be the crappiest ones because the girls at strip clubs only look good, but I doubt any of them have ever passed high school, know how to cook or do anything else useful.

I can say much more about this topic, but this will do for now.

Reply to altopowa : ^^ welcome to the club, perfectly describes the way I am

reply to Kalico : hmm your point about drinking is interesting, but I am still against even tasting it ... well, because, i don't know, i cling too much to this thing that makes me special, that word "never" even if in the end it leads me to end sad and alone, doesn't really matter, as long as i'll live without having to lie to myself so that i can live with mistakes i did, of course we can't avoid mistakes, but, ones like going for drugs to try and see how it tastes and all, it's kinda stupid, about you drinking alcohol, well, from the way you talk about it, it feels you know the limits not to go beyond, and that's nice, but haha, i can't help telling myself that not drinking at all would be better >_<

reply to cobz : am really sorry for your situation, wish you luck to reach your goals, thought about the last sentence, seeing my mates or friends smoke or drink arouse me, am even getting mad at one of my friend because he started smoking again, even when he used to smoke once a while, i told him it's stupid, saving bad habits like that won't bring much, sigh, reminds me i had a friend too who kept doing gambling stuffs, it's another poison, did you ever try to show your brother the hurt he causes around? am pretty stupid asking, am sure many tried, it's really sad though to hear things like that, even me i no more talk to my brother and parents, they all went beyond the lines at a certain time, i sweared myself to never forgive and forget, cause there's a point we past from which we can't return, suppose if it was me who did such mistakes, people might toy with me ages before even making me believe they did forgive me and then one day spit my mistakes out off my face when i wait the less, so what's the worth, better not do wrong steps to start with

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Longbow

stigma to society, not just the clubs but the people who go there. If those are place where you go to get social relationships, those relationships will be the crappiest ones because the girls at strip clubs only look good, but I doubt any of them have ever passed high school, know how to cook or do anything else useful.

you already said all of it, another thing is, why try to bring people to you, let those who knows your true value come to you on their own, not only strip bars ( which am not sure exists here ) but normal night clubs or bars ( i never seen one in real even if i know they exist here ) those who go there are weak, and meet only weak people, so what's the worth? isn't it better to find other decent and more helpful solutions? like the one you mentioned, haha are lot better than falling into drugs, gambling and so on

I’m 20 and I’ve never smoked or tried any drugs. As for alcohol, let’s just say I’ve tasted it and it’s not to my liking. I have a few friends that just can’t live without their alcohol, its mind boggling to watch them drink that sh@! like it’s water. I think they do it because they hate their lives seriously; anyone who drinks like that has to realize at some point that you’re doing some serious damage to your liver.

I’ve never been a social person from an early age so I was never easily influenced or manipulated. I’m still a virgin and I’m a girl, some of my friends keep on telling me this crap about how I’m missing out on the time of my life, being with a man is like being in heaven or some fudging crap like that. It’s a pity they don’t know that I have been watching how they live their lives and I’ve learned a great deal from them. Starting a family in your early teens with no money, no education and a no good father figure is just one of the many lessons I’ve learned. Having sex with a guy that is physically attractive but mentally unstable is another one and the list goes on like this so I’ll just stop there.

I like how am and I especially like the choices that I’ve made in life. I answer to no one but myself and sometimes my dad lol; I’ve been independent since the age of 16 so I know how take good care of myself. I don’t know what the future holds for me but at least I’m putting my best foot forward and I am in a way sort of prepared for it. Right now my main focus is to continue working and saving money, then eventually work towards owning a property instead of renting so that if in the future I do live to see my ripe old age, I will at least have a solid home and a good pension lol. I don’t know if I’ll get the luxury of having a husband and kids but I’m not ruling it out. Right now it seems like life is getting harder and I need to experience and learn a lot more before making that kind of commitment. What’s wrong with planning your future anyway? Most people I know didn’t have a plan and some of them fall victim to drugs and alcohol.

I socialize with anyone that intrigues me and they vary from drug addicts to alcoholics, prostitutes and the jokers “gangs”. It’s alright to socialize with anyone that interests you, even if you don’t agree with the way they choose to live their lives. As long as you’re doing what’s right for you, it’s all good. There is nothing more attractive than a person who stays true to themselves and stands by their convictions.

I haven't tried smoking or doing drugs simply because I think they're bad. Not because society deems them bad, but I deem them bad for me. Smoking is just disgusting and I just can't handle the smell of the smoke either. Doing drugs is just plain stupid, especially when someone does it to fit in. I haven't done anything that could jeopardize my life, well, besides speeding once a while but that's beside the point.

As for drinking, I'm not of legal age to drink yet but let's just say I tried some beer, and they tasted gross. I hate beer. Period. It's one of those "acquired tastes" that I'll never acquire, not in a million years. I have tasted wine at wedding receptions for the heck of it and I like the taste. But will I ever get drunk? No. I know what my tolerance is (zero), so I'm never going to push my luck. If I go to social gatherings, like a wedding, I'll take a sip or two (if it's wine) for the enjoyment. But other than that, I won't drink. I know my limits. That's always important.

If others do it, that's their prerogative. I wouldn't go as far as to call those people weak because that's the choice they've made. I know people who smoke, drink, and go to clubs, but they don't drink to the point of passing out, smoke 10 packs a day, or party till four in the morning when they have work/school at 7. They know when to stop. Again, that's the important thing: knowing your limits.

Myself, I'm now 24. Never drank before I turned 21, now though... I still only drink when I go out to a party or out for dinner once in a while (I prefer Vodka based drinks over most others). On average I only drink 1-2 drinks a month. I also have never been drunk. I will never do any drugs (of illegal variety) or smoke (lung cancer killed one uncle and my grandpa), and I am still a virgin and proud of it. Many of my thoughts seem similar to Kalico's (except I'm on the male side)

I have to completely agree with what Kalico said about clubbing and the way that society pushes it's views onto women. Too much objectification, and I have been known to say that guys can be incredibly stupid. Too much of our (American) society is focused on pushing the lines of decency. I can remember when I was in high school and all the seniors (I was a junior) in my art class talked about was how they couldn't wait till they were old enough to go to strip clubs. Then in my first year of College two of the girls in my Drawing I class were talking about how they don't have a problem with their boyfriends going to strip clubs and even going with them. I just don't get it.

By far, the weirdest thing about me in college was that my friends in my Design classes were the pot/crack heads and alcoholics, and I was totally the opposite.

Its awesome to see so many here share some of my views on the world and many I can relate to.