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I kept quiet about the raep ban forced upon the Japanese government due to that episode with RapeLay, though I promised I would do something. I kept quiet about the constant news I found about people possessing loli ero-manga were fined or imprisoned for...possession of child pornography? Well, whatever spins your wheels...
However, this (be warned before entering) is enough to get me going.
Basically, it has come to the point where moral-basoons deem 2D art as illegal. I can remember when Greek statues were considered immoral due to them being exposed...some centuries or so ago... Renouncing this particular case, it seems that what happens in your brain and your house is enough to make you an outcast of society. Because you enjoy (and fulfil, for some) a sexual fetish in private, you are deemed a menace and are bound to be a future perpetrator. I find it pretty contradictory that a person with a fetish would be more driven to act IRL when he can enjoy it comfortably before his screen. If not, he would've done it sooner or later.
Just so I'm not misunderstood, I would easily passport rapists of any kind to the nearest star. But this is about what happens in your house, where no one should give a damn and no one should blame you if they happen upon it. If we live in a world that offers this, why not take advantage? Another way of saying it would be "If we live in a depraved world, why deprave us of deprivation?".
Personally, if this passes, I'll be waiting the ban of saavisu from every anime that was, is and will be (starting with Queen's Blade - it is good [to be read awesome]).
However, this (be warned before entering) is enough to get me going.
Basically, it has come to the point where moral-basoons deem 2D art as illegal. I can remember when Greek statues were considered immoral due to them being exposed...some centuries or so ago... Renouncing this particular case, it seems that what happens in your brain and your house is enough to make you an outcast of society. Because you enjoy (and fulfil, for some) a sexual fetish in private, you are deemed a menace and are bound to be a future perpetrator. I find it pretty contradictory that a person with a fetish would be more driven to act IRL when he can enjoy it comfortably before his screen. If not, he would've done it sooner or later.
Just so I'm not misunderstood, I would easily passport rapists of any kind to the nearest star. But this is about what happens in your house, where no one should give a damn and no one should blame you if they happen upon it. If we live in a world that offers this, why not take advantage? Another way of saying it would be "If we live in a depraved world, why deprave us of deprivation?".
Personally, if this passes, I'll be waiting the ban of saavisu from every anime that was, is and will be (starting with Queen's Blade - it is good [to be read awesome]).
These current event issues with anime and lolicon and how it's affecting our society is getting on my nerves. I swear, shouldn't UNICEF be more concerned about other countries other than Japan? There are places in Africa (ie. Sudan) and parts of south-eastern Asia where countless kids are being raped everyday. UNICEF should really be going against stuff like what just happened in Afghanistan recently, where men are allowed to marry kids at a very young age (something along the lines of 11 or 13) legally, who are often the subject of sexual abuse. I find this a much greater issue because, living in Canada, the people who recognize the political situation in Afghanistan are growing increasingly opposed to our armed forces being stationed in Afghanistan - I mean, helping a government that legalizes rape of children? C'mon UNICEF.
I have no concrete statistics of facts, but maybe I can find some if I try, but it's getting late for me and I have a lecture tomorrow morning at 8:30, but I bet the child rape situation in Japan compared to other countries, particularly third-world countries around the world are much more severe, and I question their exposure to anime's lolicon genre. The Japanese government is really just falling under pressure from every other country, when really what they should be asking themselves is whether or not will banning such things be really effective.
I'll howl if they ban lolicon or even any kind of ecchi activity between characters in anime and then they compare the statistics of child rape in Japan and around the world in about 5-10 years and it hasn't improved since today.
The whole ban on rape games is fine for me, in fact I didn't even know rape games were even available until this issue came up recently. I remember reading somewhere (I think it was dannychoo.com) that those games make up 15-20% of the total dating games in Japan.
I have no concrete statistics of facts, but maybe I can find some if I try, but it's getting late for me and I have a lecture tomorrow morning at 8:30, but I bet the child rape situation in Japan compared to other countries, particularly third-world countries around the world are much more severe, and I question their exposure to anime's lolicon genre. The Japanese government is really just falling under pressure from every other country, when really what they should be asking themselves is whether or not will banning such things be really effective.
I'll howl if they ban lolicon or even any kind of ecchi activity between characters in anime and then they compare the statistics of child rape in Japan and around the world in about 5-10 years and it hasn't improved since today.
The whole ban on rape games is fine for me, in fact I didn't even know rape games were even available until this issue came up recently. I remember reading somewhere (I think it was dannychoo.com) that those games make up 15-20% of the total dating games in Japan.
No i agree with what's happening now. even if the crime rate in japan is low those child porns could encourage assaults on children in other countries.
to think about i, i don't get why anyone would ever want to play a rape game? those loli porns never interested me, even though i forced myself to see if it would be enjoyable in any way...
those child porn anime stuffs are giving the "asians" a really really bad image. some of you really don't get how bad & how serious it is.
i think anime is perceived negatively in japan too, right? It's not a good thing if you go to an anime school.
to think about i, i don't get why anyone would ever want to play a rape game? those loli porns never interested me, even though i forced myself to see if it would be enjoyable in any way...
those child porn anime stuffs are giving the "asians" a really really bad image. some of you really don't get how bad & how serious it is.
i think anime is perceived negatively in japan too, right? It's not a good thing if you go to an anime school.
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This.
I can't find statistics on child abuse even on UNICEF, but I'll keep trying. Though note the 1.85 for Japan, opposed to the 32.99 in the USA (115 in South Africa...something must be wrong...). And it's Japanese eroges with rape that incite people.
Then other countries should ban the trading of rape games in their damned countries, not the possession. Having them means nothing except enjoyment for their master.
I can't find statistics on child abuse even on UNICEF, but I'll keep trying. Though note the 1.85 for Japan, opposed to the 32.99 in the USA (115 in South Africa...something must be wrong...). And it's Japanese eroges with rape that incite people.
Rei0zeroNo i agree with what's happening now. even if the crime rate in japan is low those child porns could encourage assaults on children in other countries.
Then other countries should ban the trading of rape games in their damned countries, not the possession. Having them means nothing except enjoyment for their master.
I think the mayor problem here is at what level does censoring really starts to work or making things worse?
A friend of mine told me that panties inside anime were now censored in national TV...therefore, girls appeared "pant-less", get it? :3
Another example: ranma 1/2, hokuto no ken, mazinger Z (scenes with aphrodite and her boob-canons) and other series of the kind were showed uncensored, in primetime or on daytime schedule, mainly in countries like France, Italy, Spain and the whole south american continent, on national TV during the 80's-90's, featuring cuts at the end only due to a tight schedule (if it were before the news, it was cut to give space for the news, not because of obscene content)...now, other than the problems we all know inside france, italy, spain and latinamerica, do you see problems with people from these countries, born in the 70's and who saw uncensored anime on national TV, now? :3 I study with a whole bunch of italians who saw uncensored anime when young...no one has tried to see my panties...yet :3
Heavy censoring like it happens in countries like america, england (don't know if they have the same license companies after all) or germany (saw what they did to naruto) wont solve a thing. Only controlled parenting skills help.
About lolicons...that's another issue...japan needs to stop these strange fetishes...
A friend of mine told me that panties inside anime were now censored in national TV...therefore, girls appeared "pant-less", get it? :3
Another example: ranma 1/2, hokuto no ken, mazinger Z (scenes with aphrodite and her boob-canons) and other series of the kind were showed uncensored, in primetime or on daytime schedule, mainly in countries like France, Italy, Spain and the whole south american continent, on national TV during the 80's-90's, featuring cuts at the end only due to a tight schedule (if it were before the news, it was cut to give space for the news, not because of obscene content)...now, other than the problems we all know inside france, italy, spain and latinamerica, do you see problems with people from these countries, born in the 70's and who saw uncensored anime on national TV, now? :3 I study with a whole bunch of italians who saw uncensored anime when young...no one has tried to see my panties...yet :3
Heavy censoring like it happens in countries like america, england (don't know if they have the same license companies after all) or germany (saw what they did to naruto) wont solve a thing. Only controlled parenting skills help.
About lolicons...that's another issue...japan needs to stop these strange fetishes...
5 months 2 weeks ago
One thing I have to point out, those rape statistics are based on reported cases of rape. I wouldn't trust those numbers too much since there are countries who don't report these things and there are people who were raped but don't report it to the police. I would expect that this would be the case since women who were raped are looked down upon by society as "damaged goods" and thus, they tend to not report it. Anyway, that's not what I'm here to discuss about.
Child pornography should still be illegal regardless of whether it's fake or real, and I think it should apply to comics. Having child pornography around for loli/shota enthusiasts to see is like deeming sexual acts with a child is perfectly okay. It's not. It might be just a drawing on paper but it did come from someone else's mind and for that person to even fantasize/think about that enough to draw it is disturbing. Children should never be seen as sexual objects but in these loli/shota comics, they are portrayed as exactly that. The more child pornography is exposed to an audience in forms of media such as games/movies/comics, the more the audience perceives it as normal and slowly accepts it. That's what we call desensitization.
This type of phenomenon is also happening with the hentai genre that depict rape. Rape seems to be occurring more frequently in hentai games, and now Rapelay just adds the cherry on top of the cake, thereby further insinuating that rape is an accepted act even when the other person doesn't consent to it. Rape is not okay, should not be accepted, and should not be used as a representation of "love" like how these hentai games tend to depict it as. Sexual acts with a child should not be accepted by society as something normal and yet we have these comics/games that suggests otherwise. Women and children are being dehumanized through these comics/anime/games and I will never accept that.
Regarding the comment on how Greek statues were considered inappropriate. You're looking at two different time periods. Back then, people were extremely conservative that you can't even hold hands with the opposite gender. But how far must be we go from there? What, until child pornography is deem okay, then it's okay for people to rape their nieces and nephews, then to the point where children are being kidnapped and sold as sex slaves and that would be okay too? See the pattern? You must realize that our society is becoming desensitized to a lot of things. During World War II, people were so desensitized to death that a gas explosion in Cleveland, Ohio which killed hundreds of people didn't even cause anybody to blink an eye. I doubt anybody even heard of this event. Why? Because during that war, people were dying every minute and that a hundred more lives lost didn't make that much of a difference then. If that was happened to now, society wouldn't accept that kind of death toll. The same can be applied to pornography. We must draw the line somewhere before something as severe as child pornography (no matter how you may deem explicit loli/shota comics as not child pornography or how harmless it is) becomes accepted. We need to protect our children and I believe their safety is more important than keeping our "harmless" hobbies.
Just my two cents. Can't say I disagree or agree with the ban since people do have some right to enjoy their porn in their dark basement. I know that there are people with some common sense who play these so-called games and won't go around raping women and children, but it's the other kind that worries me.
Child pornography should still be illegal regardless of whether it's fake or real, and I think it should apply to comics. Having child pornography around for loli/shota enthusiasts to see is like deeming sexual acts with a child is perfectly okay. It's not. It might be just a drawing on paper but it did come from someone else's mind and for that person to even fantasize/think about that enough to draw it is disturbing. Children should never be seen as sexual objects but in these loli/shota comics, they are portrayed as exactly that. The more child pornography is exposed to an audience in forms of media such as games/movies/comics, the more the audience perceives it as normal and slowly accepts it. That's what we call desensitization.
This type of phenomenon is also happening with the hentai genre that depict rape. Rape seems to be occurring more frequently in hentai games, and now Rapelay just adds the cherry on top of the cake, thereby further insinuating that rape is an accepted act even when the other person doesn't consent to it. Rape is not okay, should not be accepted, and should not be used as a representation of "love" like how these hentai games tend to depict it as. Sexual acts with a child should not be accepted by society as something normal and yet we have these comics/games that suggests otherwise. Women and children are being dehumanized through these comics/anime/games and I will never accept that.
Regarding the comment on how Greek statues were considered inappropriate. You're looking at two different time periods. Back then, people were extremely conservative that you can't even hold hands with the opposite gender. But how far must be we go from there? What, until child pornography is deem okay, then it's okay for people to rape their nieces and nephews, then to the point where children are being kidnapped and sold as sex slaves and that would be okay too? See the pattern? You must realize that our society is becoming desensitized to a lot of things. During World War II, people were so desensitized to death that a gas explosion in Cleveland, Ohio which killed hundreds of people didn't even cause anybody to blink an eye. I doubt anybody even heard of this event. Why? Because during that war, people were dying every minute and that a hundred more lives lost didn't make that much of a difference then. If that was happened to now, society wouldn't accept that kind of death toll. The same can be applied to pornography. We must draw the line somewhere before something as severe as child pornography (no matter how you may deem explicit loli/shota comics as not child pornography or how harmless it is) becomes accepted. We need to protect our children and I believe their safety is more important than keeping our "harmless" hobbies.
Just my two cents. Can't say I disagree or agree with the ban since people do have some right to enjoy their porn in their dark basement. I know that there are people with some common sense who play these so-called games and won't go around raping women and children, but it's the other kind that worries me.
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I think pink-sakura made some awesome points. When I read this topic a week ago, I was thinking about what good arguments could come from both extremes, and it was pretty hard for me, so I'm really happy I read that.
In my opinion, watching an animated film is the same as watching a film with real people. Even though the former is 2D, it's a depiction of things that we can easily relate to, and people get attached to cartoon characters all the time. The same goes for comics and games. So I think an animated child doing sexual things is the same as a real child doing sexual things, and the difference is that the animated child is in a form that someone might enjoy more.
On the other hand, it's true that enjoying that genre won't necessarily turn someone into a rapist, just like playing games with lots of violence won't necessarily make someone a murderer (provided that there is good parenting). In that case, should games where people are killing each other be banned as well? I guess there are still differences, and one of them is that people are generally killing their enemies in those games and not taking advantage of someone. And I think pink's argument is great for this aspect too. So while I can't blame anyone for having a loli fetish, I don't think it's right for them to continue being able to get watch/read/play those things.
In my opinion, watching an animated film is the same as watching a film with real people. Even though the former is 2D, it's a depiction of things that we can easily relate to, and people get attached to cartoon characters all the time. The same goes for comics and games. So I think an animated child doing sexual things is the same as a real child doing sexual things, and the difference is that the animated child is in a form that someone might enjoy more.
On the other hand, it's true that enjoying that genre won't necessarily turn someone into a rapist, just like playing games with lots of violence won't necessarily make someone a murderer (provided that there is good parenting). In that case, should games where people are killing each other be banned as well? I guess there are still differences, and one of them is that people are generally killing their enemies in those games and not taking advantage of someone. And I think pink's argument is great for this aspect too. So while I can't blame anyone for having a loli fetish, I don't think it's right for them to continue being able to get watch/read/play those things.
Society will never accept one's true self and will never learn of it, because one would not expose it due to not being accepted by society, or, more simply, because there's religion. People will always have the desire to "be better". In what way I don't know. In their own way or society's, that's up for one to decide.
Society in itself will never (probably) reach a consensus to accept loli or rape or pornography or Satanism or any other thing that would disagree with common sense. Having recently seen Code Geass R2, I will emphasise with the fact that we have a society built on lies, striving to perfect us (or, say, constructing a pattern for all to follow).
However, I will never bring myself to accept such an abominable notion as society. That's why I'm trying to think about "humans". Rapists and child abusers and anyone freely hurting another being isn't human. But those enjoying fictional depictions of the aforementioned I see as human. Because in your world (that is, your brain), one should be free to do anything. It hurts and pleasures none than yourself. And it should be of no danger to this society.
What is there more to life than to enjoy it? If one enjoys it by being controlled by others, so be it. If one enjoys it through murder and torture, there are BDSM works and enough action movies so that one doesn't need to fulfil his desires IRL. Because most people say something is immoral, that doesn't make it so. Maybe throwing a wild guess, but I believe people going to church on Sundays would not care seeing a person being killed in a film later that day.
For a direct response regarding the relation to Greek statues, what I would say in a future perfect world: "Back then, people were extremely conservative that you couldn't even thought about what you like.".
Well, maybe I'm just being an idiot to try and protect hedonism to such an extent. If even nekomimi are to be banned, I'll lose hope in everything otaku...
Society in itself will never (probably) reach a consensus to accept loli or rape or pornography or Satanism or any other thing that would disagree with common sense. Having recently seen Code Geass R2, I will emphasise with the fact that we have a society built on lies, striving to perfect us (or, say, constructing a pattern for all to follow).
However, I will never bring myself to accept such an abominable notion as society. That's why I'm trying to think about "humans". Rapists and child abusers and anyone freely hurting another being isn't human. But those enjoying fictional depictions of the aforementioned I see as human. Because in your world (that is, your brain), one should be free to do anything. It hurts and pleasures none than yourself. And it should be of no danger to this society.
What is there more to life than to enjoy it? If one enjoys it by being controlled by others, so be it. If one enjoys it through murder and torture, there are BDSM works and enough action movies so that one doesn't need to fulfil his desires IRL. Because most people say something is immoral, that doesn't make it so. Maybe throwing a wild guess, but I believe people going to church on Sundays would not care seeing a person being killed in a film later that day.
For a direct response regarding the relation to Greek statues, what I would say in a future perfect world: "Back then, people were extremely conservative that you couldn't even thought about what you like.".
Well, maybe I'm just being an idiot to try and protect hedonism to such an extent. If even nekomimi are to be banned, I'll lose hope in everything otaku...
Hm, if you bring up what a human truly is, that just sparks a whole new debate, because it's just so subjective. For me, I think the ability to be better (like treating people better) is what makes us humans, and our "immoral" desires come from the animal part of us. And yeah, I can't see the government ever saying, "Humans are like that, so we'll allow it."
While you do make some good points, I don't think you're really open to the points from the other side, like the desensitization part. Getting rid of animated child pornography won't lead to the ban of nekomimi, you know, hehe.
While you do make some good points, I don't think you're really open to the points from the other side, like the desensitization part. Getting rid of animated child pornography won't lead to the ban of nekomimi, you know, hehe.
Was just using that to better explain my ideas. To keep this on track, I'll behave (though the little gremlin behind my ear compels me to say: "You can safely assume that my idea of a human is the opposite." ... or something like that).
That may be, though I consider the otaku culture too insignificant (at the moment at least) to have an actual impact on something of value for society, whereas the other is opposite. Also, a sane otaku? Like a 1CC on Lunatic SA.
The nekomimi part can be found here. I believe this delay is due to recent bans and, even if the Internet sales went on, may be a sort of alarm.
That may be, though I consider the otaku culture too insignificant (at the moment at least) to have an actual impact on something of value for society, whereas the other is opposite. Also, a sane otaku? Like a 1CC on Lunatic SA.
The nekomimi part can be found here. I believe this delay is due to recent bans and, even if the Internet sales went on, may be a sort of alarm.
5 months 2 weeks ago
Tricky topic. I enjoy a good wank as much as the next guy, but I just can't really enjoy anything but consensual acts between two people of legal age. Other people do, I know, and I think its weird, but that's me.
I think the trend towards selling underage people as sex icons is part of a larger issue. Namely, kids aren't allowed to be kids anymore. Adulthood is forced on them at younger and younger ages, and sex is sold to them at younger and younger ages, so that now 12-year-old girls are walking around dressed like hookers, and acting like first-class bitches.
Media is to blame in some sense, but largely its a parenting issue. Parents nowadays don't know how to raise their damn kids. Its easier to let the box with the moving pictures do it. Its because of lazy parents that we have to have rating systems for games, movies, and TV.
But its not going to get any better. People aren't going to suddenly turn into good parents. So, look forward to more and more underage porn!
I think the trend towards selling underage people as sex icons is part of a larger issue. Namely, kids aren't allowed to be kids anymore. Adulthood is forced on them at younger and younger ages, and sex is sold to them at younger and younger ages, so that now 12-year-old girls are walking around dressed like hookers, and acting like first-class bitches.
Media is to blame in some sense, but largely its a parenting issue. Parents nowadays don't know how to raise their damn kids. Its easier to let the box with the moving pictures do it. Its because of lazy parents that we have to have rating systems for games, movies, and TV.
But its not going to get any better. People aren't going to suddenly turn into good parents. So, look forward to more and more underage porn!
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Well...seems like I was worried for nothing. luna, you said they wouldn't ban nekomimi, right? Latest news.
For those afraid, a list of what is to be banned in eroge (completely): Rape, Loli, Gang Rape, Assault, Brutality, “Reverse” Rape, Girl, Adultery, “Reverse” Assault, Compulsion, Gangbang, Student Council, Bestiality, Bondage, Coercion, Train Molestation, Enjo Kousai (Prostitution), Incest, Torture, Binding, Pregnancy, Violation, Slaves, Pregnant Women, Confinement, Conception. Just ctrl+c v from the link.
As I'm still away, I'll leave proper comments for the future. All that I want to say is that this will probably lead to the utter downfall and, possibly, complete destruction of the eroge industry, if it remains as is. However, the Japs lost pretty much 98% of my confidence.
For those afraid, a list of what is to be banned in eroge (completely): Rape, Loli, Gang Rape, Assault, Brutality, “Reverse” Rape, Girl, Adultery, “Reverse” Assault, Compulsion, Gangbang, Student Council, Bestiality, Bondage, Coercion, Train Molestation, Enjo Kousai (Prostitution), Incest, Torture, Binding, Pregnancy, Violation, Slaves, Pregnant Women, Confinement, Conception. Just ctrl+c v from the link.
As I'm still away, I'll leave proper comments for the future. All that I want to say is that this will probably lead to the utter downfall and, possibly, complete destruction of the eroge industry, if it remains as is. However, the Japs lost pretty much 98% of my confidence.
Forbidden fruits always taste better.
Even if loli porn will be forbidden, there will always be people that will create some new ones, upload them and... well, that's it. As long as there is the need for product, a seller will eventually come.
About loli porn or raping porn... Ew. Barbarism. Disgusting. I find it repulsive, but I'd prefer some guy to read loli manga than actually rape a child. I'm not a psychologist so it's hard to say if reading a porn or playing porn game could make one calmer or actually help him to become a rapist... As long as it won't harm anyone (and I don't have to look at this porn thingy) it should be ok.
Even if loli porn will be forbidden, there will always be people that will create some new ones, upload them and... well, that's it. As long as there is the need for product, a seller will eventually come.
About loli porn or raping porn... Ew. Barbarism. Disgusting. I find it repulsive, but I'd prefer some guy to read loli manga than actually rape a child. I'm not a psychologist so it's hard to say if reading a porn or playing porn game could make one calmer or actually help him to become a rapist... As long as it won't harm anyone (and I don't have to look at this porn thingy) it should be ok.
pink-sakuraChild pornography should still be illegal regardless of whether it's fake or real, and I think it should apply to comics. Having child pornography around for loli/shota enthusiasts to see is like deeming sexual acts with a child is perfectly okay. It's not. It might be just a drawing on paper but it did come from someone else's mind and for that person to even fantasize/think about that enough to draw it is disturbing.
Is it disturbing? Yes. Is it sick? Yes. But you are talking about censoring someone's thoughts because you don't agree with them, not their actions. These are drawings of fictional characters and you are talking about treating them as if they were real. Would you send someone to jail for killing a person in a video game? How about in a horror movie? Do you see how absurd this is?
You may not agree with it, but as soon as you make thoughts illegal based on what you believe, no one is safe. After all, how do you determine how old a drawing is? What if the person judging this sees the large anime style eyes as an idication of childhood and rules all anime nudity as child pornography? After all, you can't prove a drawing is or is not of age- they don't have an age. They are completely fictional.
pink-sakuraThe more child pornography is exposed to an audience in forms of media such as games/movies/comics, the more the audience perceives it as normal and slowly accepts it. That's what we call desensitization.
I hate to be a broken record here, but look at every other type of mainstream media. Should violent games be outlawed because you simulated murdering people? Should violent movies be outlawed because you see people being killed in them?
And I'd like to remind you that these are not images you stumble across on your way home from work. These are images you have to seek out. You may not agree with it, but if you start treating art differently because it doesn't match your beliefs, nothing is safe.
It really scares me that so many people are blinded by the details and overlooking the serious nature of the big picture.
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In looking at your wallpapers, let's take this a step closer to home. You did a wallpaper of two young naked men on top of each other in bed. Can you prove they are both 18 or older? They look pretty young to me. Should that image be illegal because some people find it immoral and disgusting? How would you feel if a judge sentenced you to jail time for child pornography because you have that image on your computer?
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