Hello everyone,

Well, is it??

I mean that nowadays world leaders resolve their conflicts with words like "Scud Launchers, Tomahawk Missiles, Heavy Bombers, Air Dominance Fighters, Battle Tanks and even the threat of Nuclear Missiles, Giving the Ultimatum" and things like those. The tools of war.

Now, if a matter has to be settled than we simply think about 'eliminating' the problem, instead of finding a solution which can comfort both the parties. The use of force and violence has now become the most powerful tool, if we want peace. What happened to having a common settlement? Why can't we compromise with the matter? Why can't we come to a solution which satisfies the needs of both the sides?

Not just in this case, but even in other places. Like in universities, if the students cannot accept a certain law or rule and the respective administration does not listen to their students' requests than the students go out on a rampage on the streets. Creating widespread chaos. And forcing the administration to agree to what the students have to say or want. Why can't both, the students and the administration come to a common solution? Why is it always, either this or that?

Now people protest against the government's certain laws in such a violent way. Why do they do it?

Even our own parents, sometimes even they use violence to subdue their children. Of course not wild or heavy violence but still, it is a form of using violence.

And strangely enough, it seems that it is the most effective tool.

If two people are having a disagreement on something than instead of talking it out and coming to a certain common solution, they start to 'teach the other person a lesson'. Which often turns out to be violent. Like turf wars.

The so called 'peace' that follows as a result of this type of violence comes only to one side. What about the other side? They lose everything.

And does that peace last for long?
Why can't we talk it out?

How many of you have noticed or experienced this kind of a thing? How or what do you feel about it? (Please don't start to flame other people! Please try and take this in a positive manner.)

What are your thoughts about this?

The Firestorm.

Never justified them average.

What happened to having a common settlement? Why can't we compromise with the matter? Why can't we come to a solution which satisfies the needs of both the sides?

People compromise everyday in their lives...in work...in school...in public. It's the small things they give and take without even a second thought. It's when things start conflicting with their beliefs and values or the things closest to them, that they start to take notice and will act.

But individuals can be impulsive, quick to anger, arrogant, stubborn, passionate, etc... leave it up to emotions to tear down logic. A simple problem can erupt to out of proportions because someone was too emotional or passionate. Not many people are actually tolerant and accomodating of others.

Scientists attribute aggression to the amygdala, part of your brain that controls aggression, the release of certain neurotransmitters to arouse emotion, and the preparation of your Sympathetic nervous system for a "fight-or-flight" response. A physiological response to danger.

I find it all ironic about the weapon's buildup in nations all over the world. The Defense Department is really the Department of War, but Defense sounds so much better than War right? Build better airplanes, smarter missiles, supply the allies with guns and rockets so that we can maintain a so-called "peace" when we're actually just preparing for the next war. In the mind of a strategist in warfare, there is no such thing as peace. You win the war and make preparations for the next. Peace is the time your given to build up as much arms as you can. Previous wars are just testing grounds for strategies and weapons that work. Kill the enemy before they kill you. Inflict as many casualties while keeping your own men safe and sound.

What is peace? The interval time between conflicts? the absence of conflict, hatred and aggression? that sense of security while your tucked in bed at night while someone halfway across the globe is sleeping with one eye open praying they'll be alive to see the sunrise in a few hours?

Peace as defined by Dictionary.com...
1. the normal, nonwarring condition of a nation, group of nations, or the world.
2. (often initial capital letter) an agreement or treaty between warring or antagonistic nations, groups, etc., to end hostilities and abstain from further fighting or antagonism: the Peace of Ryswick.
3. a state of mutual harmony between people or groups, esp. in personal relations: Try to live in peace with your neighbors.
4. the normal freedom from civil commotion and violence of a community; public order and security: He was arrested for being drunk and disturbing the peace.
5. cessation of or freedom from any strife or dissension.
6. freedom of the mind from annoyance, distraction, anxiety, an obsession, etc.; tranquillity; serenity.
7. a state of tranquillity or serenity: May he rest in peace.
8. a state or condition conducive to, proceeding from, or characterized by tranquillity: the peace of a mountain resort.
9. silence; stillness: The cawing of a crow broke the afternoon's peace.
10. (initial capital letter, italics) a comedy (421 b.c.) by Aristophanes.

In order to achieve peace, do we have to fulfill all of these definitions? or will one just work?

There has never been peace in the world. Wars have always been continuously present throughout history, bigger or smaller, the so-called peace periods are nothing but an optimist thought or a false tranquillity that the media sells us. There have always been hidden conflicts in society, it's human nature, there's no solution. The closest peace we can achieve can be obtained by a big drastic solution which would have to sacrifice lots of people. This way we could gain five or six decades of peace before it all returned to its previous state.

Yes, I'm depressing I know xD

It's very simple, it's because we are selfish assholes!

Coming to an agreement on a small scale is something we have come to terms but if its on a large scale, war is more than half of the time the answer, and why is that? BECAUSE WE ARE INSECURE ABOUT HAVING EQUAL POWER!

It's always better to be stronger, faster, smarter then your opponent isn't it? same goes with nations.

Here's what i think in simpler terms,

There is a playground bully, he's richer then you are, dose more sports than you, and gets better grades then you,
he basically owns your ass if you don't agree with whatever he says. So in order not to make yourself an enemy to this mofo, you do whatever he says and follow his orders, and so you are protected by the strongest guy on the playground.

Now, your daddy gets a better job than his, your family is as rich as the bully's family, you start enrolling yourself for sports, and you get tutors to get your grades up. what happens to the bully? he has now become your worst enemy. why is that? because neither of you are willing to share power, both of you want absolute dominance over the playground. Eventually this turns out sorta like the cold war, and eventually one of the two sides has to give up.

The only reason we don't like to let anyone rule us is because we want our opinions to be right, our ideals to come true, and it's always better to get what you want.

I mean coming to terms is like wanting a PS3 for Christmas and getting a PS2, now its still a sony playstation, it still has games, but it isn't what you really want now is it?

THIS IS BECAUSE WE ARE SELFISH. WE WANT WHAT WE SAY TO BE RIGHT, AND WE WILL PAY ANY PRICE TO GET IT RIGHT. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE ARMIES THIS IS WHY WE HAVE WARS, BECAUSE WE ARE POWERHUNGRY WHORES.

the end!

Peace doesn't come for free, violence is kind necessary for having peace but we will losse freedom as a price for it, like in dictatorship, you don't have the free-will but have peace and security.

to me isn't worth it.

Spentzar

THIS IS BECAUSE WE ARE SELFISH. WE WANT WHAT WE SAY TO BE RIGHT, AND WE WILL PAY ANY PRICE TO GET IT RIGHT. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE ARMIES THIS IS WHY WE HAVE WARS, BECAUSE WE ARE POWERHUNGRY WHORES.

the end!

Finally a sincere person full of common sense. We have always been selfish, we are selfish and we will always be selfish. And whoever says the opposite is lying.

There are always other alternative to violence and it is when these breakdown or are not attempted we end up with wars/clashes. I do accept there are cases where one side ends up having to go to war with another to preserve the peace but it is very common for both sides to deny all blame for the conflict coming to head even though in reality they are partly to blame.

Our whole society and systems by which we live are built with the purpose of preventing the need for violence, from the basic laws in out courts right up to the likes of the UN. The truth is there will always be evil people in this world and if they are allowed to do they please they will be able damage our way of life. I feel that eventually we will be able to have peace without any need for wars but it may take a long time and I belive the spread of true and fair democracy is the key.

I don't think that violence is the key to peace.. 'cus look.. when we use violence that person or whatevere we are using it agenst they are just going to defend them selfs and use more violence and then it continues just until the weekest one losses.. or at least that's what i think...there are other ways to solve probles it's just we don't take the time to think it out.. we are to lazzy and we want things to fast.. we're not patient enough.. but i don't think that we are going to change i guess it's in our nature to do so..

One reason I believe is one who holds power whats to keep that power so thats where most of the conflict starts, but if the one with power shows a little force of power to deter uprisings, but at the same time is able to take care of the needs of those under them, than that is peace to a certain extent. So I guess in my point of view, violence and peace almost go hand in hand.

Maybe its true coz when world war II ended there was peace up until 2000 i guess.

I don't think it's possible to have peace by having violence, because if you use violence, it's going to add more chaos to the world. There would be more wars, bloodshed, and revenge.

^ and eventually people would get tiered of it and start to understand each other's point of view, which would lead to peace.

I think that peace is something that humans and society created. I don't think that there will never be peace no matter what. People will always fight because that is how nature is. Survival of the fittest, those who are not strong enough or not able to adapt quickly will eventually cease to exist. Violence is just simply a part of who we are and it's something that I think people are ashamed to accept.

There can never be peace between humans, cause someone is always wanting more of something.