Tell me honestly, would you and the society around you with all its currently withstanding rules and what to do's react with such ferocity if it was a GUY (say 23 something, hot hunk, standard american size p0n0s, strong looking body, does not smoke, handsome face, likely brown locks and wears Versace for Men) WHO GOT RAPED?

Society has a way of dealing with people who are treated unfairly, once and again it has proven to be more than understated for guys to get hurt in terms of emotional stress and all that jazz, how many times has it been when you see a guy going for counselling and get whisked off before the next woman patient came along to sit in the long chair?

Women who get raped reacted fiercely, and normally, lots of emotional issues follow, from crying, sobbing, court cases, sentences that often goes off the roof, sometimes death for the victimizer, harsh words, comments from critics that are usually one sided, Muftis who declared women should wear more so they are not "Uncovered Meat" etc etc...

What say you when it was a man who gets the same treatment, say getting mobbed and sodomized by a bunch of sickly twisted and betrayed housewives from their husbands and decides to make a comeback in the most unfashionable way possible.

Would society view it with as much importance, would there be the same if not more tears and emotional issues and lawsuits? I am inclined to say no... after all ...
as James Brown would say: " It is a Man's World "

Perhaps you can share with me what you think. Also, are we emphasizing too much on women and children?

For the most part, the law does not recognize that rape can happen to males. Rape in most states is defined as the act of forced penetration. It's so specific, it does not cover what might happen if a women consents at first, and then after the first penetration, takes away that consent.

Do I believe it's possible? Sure. Does society? No.

You never mentioned if a Gay man may rape a male victim, that much is true.

Caligo

For the most part, the law does not recognize that rape can happen to males. Rape in most states is defined as the act of forced penetration. It's so specific, it does not cover what might happen if a women consents at first, and then after the first penetration, takes away that consent.

Do I believe it's possible? Sure. Does society? No.

Omni mentioned that the guy in question was sodomized though. I don't know what to call that if not forced penetration.

I doubt most people would care as much about a guy. Society just doesn't view male victims in the same light as female victims

I think a guy in that situation would have just as many problems dealing with his rape as a woman would (though he would probably act a little different). Society expects men to feel no emotion and show even less, so it's no surprise that the emotional stress of men is typically neglected.

It's even physically more complicated for a woman to rape a man...

Now let's turn our attention to prison...

I am not one to usually say this but i think you have exaggerated your case. while true that there is bias in this matter of rape, it is extremely difficult for a female to rape a man. if a man does not want to be erect they can stop themselves, or at least most men can (especially the older the man). i dont know one rapist that was ever given a death sentence unless they killed their victim afterwards (atleast in the united states).

the reason the rape of a woman is made a big deal is cause of the frequency of the act. while i wont go as far to say that men are never raped, rape in prison is hardly ever addressed, i will say it happens far less and men have far more control over whether they are raped or not.

i will agree that often women (those who havent been raped) take this issue to unneccesary levels, often bad mouthing men in general (stereotyping). those who have been raped, their reactions are understandable, due to stress, anxeity, mental anguish, fear, and loss of control. where i come from (somalia) rape was a everyday occurance, and i have seen first hand the problems it can cause. my wife was raped when she was only ten years of age, it took her nearly fifteen years before she let another man touch her (including me), i gave her the support she needed and stayed abstinent till she felt safe with me.

point is, it is a womans vulnerability to this act that makes it such a big deal and requires such a intense response. however some people do not look at the mental state of a rapist correctly. just like with a pedofile, there are some wires in the brain that are crossed incorrectly or differently (depending on how you want to look at it), this can be thought akin to insanity. also, and i know i will take flak for this, but evolutionary wise the act of rape made sense once upon a time (procreationally). that of course is no excuse, but it is a reason. plus no one ever considers if the victimizer is suffering in any way mentally.

do not even question whether or not a child being raped should be made a big deal. children have even less control over such a situation then a woman does, understand less whats being done to them, severely and adversely affecting the rest of their lives.

Rape on men is possible, for the most part, i treasure my anal virginity, i highly doubt most straight men think otherwise.

besides, this is one of society's doublestandards. People don't care if men get raped. And men probably wont complain much if raped by women, unelss the criminal is ugly. i mean come on who DOSEN'T wanna be raped by a really hot blonde, but i imagine this rape to not include the victim's ass being penetrated...

i dont really know dude

I do not want to be raped by a really hot woman. besides if you want it to happen it is not rape.

Right-o, nevermind my earlier post then zealkai

Man, i wish my Girlfriend raped me.. but i guess its not rape unless its willing i suppose.

My point exactly, Zelkai has a real good post, in terms of understanding the double standards of society, it occurs to me how much neglect is there against men in terms of pressure and other forms of harassment.
An office harrassment that is sexual in nature oftens goes into silence, I mean who would say it out loud.
I find it rather uneasy that there is not exactly a panel in terms of society that was attending to the emotional needs of males except for private NGOs.

I do indeed apologize for the addition of Children into the case, indeed, those MUST be given UTMOST importance. I mean, how many of these kids can defend themselves?

I disagree with the somewhat stereotyping of the fact that there is a lower possibility of women raping men or male rape, in the case of women, weapons are the normal thing to expect, perhaps using tools of destruction, say a threat towards the family by placing certains things into their houses, say something that can potentially blow up? rather rare I know, but the point is, it is possible to threated and execute.

For males, with the growing passive nature of society as we see today, I would not be surprised to see sodomy among men. Especially say inmates as suggested earlier.

As I know, there is very little support for the males in society for the cases, often more so the stereotyping of a typical strong male is rather misunderstood, just because you have a male body doesnt mean one cannot be vulnerable, now the problem goes deep with the fact that society fails to understand that.

Well i agree if there is more cases where men are being rape... *not counting prisons cases*

Well, to be frank, men are raped all the time. I don't think it's a question of "if" men get raped in prison, I think we can just say "men get raped in prison." Especially the ones who are in a long-term prison, and especially if the man is slightly feminine looking. Prison rape is never prosecuted though, mostly because the men are too embarrassed to say anything, and also because if they do say something, it will only be worse for them with the other inmates.

That said, the reason women make such a big deal about being raped is because nine times out of ten, a woman isn't strong enough to defend herself against a would-be rapist, so the only defense a woman has is to take legal action. Outside of prison cases, it's rare for a man to be raped because they are strong enough to defend themselves. That's why there IS, a lower possibility for women to rape men. Also, when women are raped by a man, most of the time the crime is motivated by lust- lust for violence, lust for a feeling of power, and lust for the act itself. For a woman to rape a man, she would either have to be really desperate and skanky (in the case of the office rape), or she would do it for revenge of some kind.

Basically, people make a bigger deal about women getting raped because of the frequency of occurance, and because of the fact that it's harder for a woman to defend herself. No offence, but I think anyone who says otherwise is just reading into the equality idea too much. Men and women are different. They're supposed to be different. You can't change that.

*pushes his glasses up and frowns*

Well, rape is rape. The idea is abhorrent to me, to I won't deign to go into the details of how a man could be "raped". Prison comes to mind, where rape is a constant and nigh accepted part of being incarcerated. I think that male rape would be prosecuted with the same severity, should a similar amount of severity be involved in the case. The issue with "rape" is that it is a power issue. A man (or woman, I'll grant for the sake of discussion) overpowers his/her victim with the intent to use the victims body for their own pleasure or entertainment. Often, it's not even about the sex (according to the rapists), it more about the power of forcing yourself on someone and getting what you want without their permission.
In that instance, with all sincerity, I can totally see where a judge or jury might smirk at a man and say "He could've fought back" whereas a woman of equivalent strength and ability would get unconditional pity and rather than a sense of strange irony, there would be a very real sense of anger and vengeance for the "defenseless" woman. The thought that I catch myself having is "Why didn't he just fight back?" Well, depending on the circumstances, you might not necessarily be able to fight back. You might be weaker than the other man/woman, or might fear the consequences of having someone prosecute you for the assault!
To use the example of the person at work (no offense or assumption intended), if he had "fought" his boss, she could have called the police and had him arrested for assault, disgracing him in public as a "woman beater". The molestation would not only be unchallenged, but it would be totally discounted. So, the man would not only not get justice, but likely be shamed for defending himself. A no-win situation. This is hypothetical, of course, since I can't base my conclusions on personal experience.
Sad that this makes sense to me. Such are the pitfalls of a unilateral revision of social sex roles. Men have always wanted to be tough, so now we have to be tough.

Regards, Aaron

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