All though Bankai is called final released, but as seen in all the chapters and anime when releasing the form usually they say out the work 'Ban Kai'. If that is so when ichigo fought with grimmjow in the hollow world why do he not need to say bankai. but instead he jumps toward grimmjow and his bankai appeared. Please give your opinion on this.

I'm guessing that they normally just say what their doing so the viewers know what's going on, so maybe the creators forgot to have Ichigo say Bankai. I have a feeling there is a level beyond Bankai, which Aizen probably acheived or is trying to at least.

It could be, Bleach is one of the manga published in Jump after all, just like Dragon Ball, they have to fight endless enemies and keep 'leveling up'.There's no end to it.

sharpshard

It could be, Bleach is one of the manga published in Jump after all, just like Dragon Ball, they have to fight endless enemies and keep 'leveling up'.There's no end to it.

Yes, but it's not made by the same author so I'm not sure, but I suppose Tite might have more "leveling up" as the series progresses.

Yeah it is possible...but ichigo has already transcended bankai by using his hollow mask transformation
and aizen isn't trying to go beyond bankai by releasing his SoulSlayer but by acquiring Hollow powers...this might imply that there isn't indeed anything beyond

i mean what could it be ? bankai is basically a fusion of the Slayer with the shinigami...which is a recurring theme of a final transformation whenever inner beasts/spirits or anything else is involved (S-cry-ed for instance had a similar concept in the final battle)

anything beyond that will be a bit ridiculous...

magma16

yeah it is possible...but ichigo has already transcended bankai by using his hollow mask transformation and aizen isn't trying to go beyond bankai by releasing his SoulSlayer but by acquiring Hollow powers...this might imply that there isn't indeed anything beyond i mean what could it be ? bankai is basically a fusion of the Slayer with the shinigami...which is a recurring theme of a final transformation whenever inner beasts/spirits or anything else is involved (S-cry-ed for instance had a similar concept in the final battle) anything beyond that will be a bit ridiculous...

I like your way of thinking. S-cry-ed was a lot similar with the way their powers work. Like how Kazuma started with only his right arm using his power and then he got to the next level with a full body suit-like power.

NO

I think there's another level to the shinigami and their zanpakutou, but they just aren't aware of it yet. Ichigo is a clear demonstration of this, showing that there IS another level above being just a shinigami, even if only a select few can achieve it.

It'd be awesome if there's a higher level, but I like to think it's not a third sword liberation, but a second hollow power-up.
Let's put it this way: it is said that Ichigo's core of spiritual power is conformed by Zangetsu Ossan and Ichi-hollow. So, if Zangetsu is the entity that represents the shinigami power, is the Zanpakutoh itself, and is well known that he has two liberations, Shikai and Bankai.
Now, Ichi-hollow's power is represented by the mask... Is there any possibility that a second masked form could exist? Think about it, it makes a little sense.

Illidan-Stormrage

It'd be awesome if there's a higher level, but I like to think it's not a third sword liberation, but a second hollow power-up. Let's put it this way: it is said that Ichigo's core of spiritual power is conformed by Zangetsu Ossan and Ichi-hollow. So, if Zangetsu is the entity that represents the shinigami power, is the Zanpakutoh itself, and is well known that he has two liberations, Shikai and Bankai. Now, Ichi-hollow's power is represented by the mask... Is there any possibility that a second masked form could exist? Think about it, it makes a little sense.

I see where you're going with this. I'm not sure but it's a possibility. Also maybe a third form could come from fusing the Zanpakutou and hollow mask together, maybe.

I think the next level which they might look at is a hollow release for Ichigo, and maybe the other Vizard, like where Ichigo was training to get his mask form, maybe a full hollow form might become availible...

Lhexh

I think the next level which they might look at is a hollow release for Ichigo, and maybe the other Vizard, like where Ichigo was training to get his mask form, maybe a full hollow form might become availible...

That's my thoughts on it too, or he might possibly mix his Zanpakutou and hollow mask together to make himself more powerful.

Well, ichigo's hollow did say that if ichigo wanted to control his true power, dont die before he shows up again. so that right there say's that there is more to this hollow transformation thingy.

No, there shouldn't be. Unless Aizen mastered another way after Bankai.

This was my thought too
there has to be something more powerfull than bankai
i you look at aizen and his power, ichigo cant stand against him with only bankai and his hollow transformation for a few seconds.. how should this be possible ?

maybe ichigo will be able to transform more into a hollow than just the mask
dont know

but i dont think that he can beat aizen with this short transformation
the gap in power between them is too big
(cant wait to see the next episodes :) )