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Today there has been a tragedy that had happen in Virginia. It happened in viginiatech. 33 people died according to the news. The shooter also killed himself.The artcle should be in yahoo if you want to read more. In the past there also has been similar cases like the story about Columbine high school.
I'll try to summrize the story about columbine. you could try to research this if you want.also search about rachel's challenge. it was just like any other school days.at the ring of the bell for lunch. students went out and then a group of men started shooting as the students go out. this group also went inside the school and started shooting the remaining students. Many people died of this tradegy. some people pretended to be dead just to live. I don't really mean to put this topic here but this are serious matters that must be made known. this events are really tragic. one of my teachers suggested that it could be because of hitler's birthday which is on April 20. Why do somepeople do this kind of stuff? It just bugs me that even school is not a safe place to be in anymore.
I'll try to summrize the story about columbine. you could try to research this if you want.also search about rachel's challenge. it was just like any other school days.at the ring of the bell for lunch. students went out and then a group of men started shooting as the students go out. this group also went inside the school and started shooting the remaining students. Many people died of this tradegy. some people pretended to be dead just to live. I don't really mean to put this topic here but this are serious matters that must be made known. this events are really tragic. one of my teachers suggested that it could be because of hitler's birthday which is on April 20. Why do somepeople do this kind of stuff? It just bugs me that even school is not a safe place to be in anymore.
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Why do people do what they do everyday? It's human nature, even if it brings about tragedies such as this.
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There are many reasons why someone decides to pull a college shooting.
Ah, Virginia tech college shootout, it was damn fun watching it reported, heck, these guys can't even get a clear shot, and I tell you, it happens just like that.
I am saying this for sure, human nature or not, it has rarely much to do with human nature, this is environment problems, I have every reason to believe it must be one of those kids whom are jeered to no end by his peers, a girl who suffers from failed exams, teachers who don't get enough pay etc etc...
happens all the time for the same reasons.
Mistreatment.
We must have beared witness to all of these and it has always the same reason, I mean one way or the other, it has to do with the shooter's surroundings, the people around him etc etc...
Or haven't you heard this:
"In life, it is like this, either you are the customer who waits at the cashier for the cashier to pack your stuff so you can pay, or you are the cashier who sits there day by day, suffering pay cut after pay cut as his wife mumbles on about her poodles and her pills, suffering from employer's wrath over nothing, and then poor communication with fellow workers as well as not getting enough for a daily beer...
so much so, that one fine day, all hell breaks loose and he walks in the store reporting for work as well as shooting everyone in the store before he decides life has been the most undesirable thing to him and shoots himself twice in the body or once over the head"
I am saying this for sure, human nature or not, it has rarely much to do with human nature, this is environment problems, I have every reason to believe it must be one of those kids whom are jeered to no end by his peers, a girl who suffers from failed exams, teachers who don't get enough pay etc etc...
happens all the time for the same reasons.
Mistreatment.
We must have beared witness to all of these and it has always the same reason, I mean one way or the other, it has to do with the shooter's surroundings, the people around him etc etc...
Or haven't you heard this:
"In life, it is like this, either you are the customer who waits at the cashier for the cashier to pack your stuff so you can pay, or you are the cashier who sits there day by day, suffering pay cut after pay cut as his wife mumbles on about her poodles and her pills, suffering from employer's wrath over nothing, and then poor communication with fellow workers as well as not getting enough for a daily beer...
so much so, that one fine day, all hell breaks loose and he walks in the store reporting for work as well as shooting everyone in the store before he decides life has been the most undesirable thing to him and shoots himself twice in the body or once over the head"
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I suppose it also deals with the person's self-control as well. Everyone is surrounded by those who annoy beyond belief, mistreat others, and the like. It's really nothing to go and kill people over, but you know, those shooters saw that it was the best solution or something.
*pokes at the bundle of words* If that even makes sense. Oh well.
*pokes at the bundle of words* If that even makes sense. Oh well.
I heard he did it because his girlfriend dumped him or something. Those are just rumors at this point though.
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Actually, these things seem to only (or mostly) happen in the US. It is very easy for people to buy automatic rifles in Russia, but you dont see children shooting one another. Also, switzerland allows citizens to bare arms, you dont see school shootings in the news about them either =/ Infact, they have mandatory shooting practice.
The only places I see children killing other children, are the US, and Africa (where iv seen a press photo, as in an actual news photographer photo, in the World Press Photo Contest) of a 6 year old being beheaded with a knife by other 6-15 year olds.
I think some kids need to grow up and get some more attention.
(even the middle-east, which many ignorant individuals believe to be a very undeveloped location, has less gun deaths amongst people less than 15 years of age than the US)
Oh please. . .
Lately, some of the reasons seem to be in the range of something like "I broke a nail" or "my imaginary friend violated me and asked me to shoot people"
That may be correct, however, the magnitude of what actions you undergo at the instant you snap relay what type of person you are. Only a true murderer, can kill, no matter what the conditions may be. There are people who live under even worse conditions than an emo cashier, yet they do not go off shooting others.
In phsycology, there are diffrent "levels" of criminal behaviour, the most fearfull type of criminals are those who do not even blink while killing another person. Lets take "The NightWalker", a satanist who killed 14 people in the US, before getting caught. In one of his murders, the woman picked up a shot gun and almost killed him, however, the shot gun was not loaded. Because of this, he "snapped" shot her three times, mutilated her body, ripped her eyes out with a knife, and continued to stab her (and raped her corpse then drew a satan star on the wall with her blood). Now, not all criminals are capable of such a wide array of murderous creativity.
Another thing in regards to criminal behaviour, was a survey conducted a few years back, which included a simple question. Every murderer/criminal who was asked to perform the survey, answered it correctly. Where as regular people could not get close to the right answer x.x
The only places I see children killing other children, are the US, and Africa (where iv seen a press photo, as in an actual news photographer photo, in the World Press Photo Contest) of a 6 year old being beheaded with a knife by other 6-15 year olds.
I think some kids need to grow up and get some more attention.
(even the middle-east, which many ignorant individuals believe to be a very undeveloped location, has less gun deaths amongst people less than 15 years of age than the US)
hitler's birthday which is on April 20
Oh please. . .
someone decides to pull a college shooting.
Lately, some of the reasons seem to be in the range of something like "I broke a nail" or "my imaginary friend violated me and asked me to shoot people"
"In life, it is like this, either you are the customer who waits at the cashier for the cashier to pack your stuff so you can pay, or you are the cashier who sits there day by day, suffering pay cut after pay cut as his wife mumbles on about her poodles and her pills, suffering from employer's wrath over nothing, and then poor communication with fellow workers as well as not getting enough for a daily beer...
so much so, that one fine day, all hell breaks loose and he walks in the store reporting for work as well as shooting everyone in the store before he decides life has been the most undesirable thing to him and shoots himself twice in the body or once over the head"
That may be correct, however, the magnitude of what actions you undergo at the instant you snap relay what type of person you are. Only a true murderer, can kill, no matter what the conditions may be. There are people who live under even worse conditions than an emo cashier, yet they do not go off shooting others.
In phsycology, there are diffrent "levels" of criminal behaviour, the most fearfull type of criminals are those who do not even blink while killing another person. Lets take "The NightWalker", a satanist who killed 14 people in the US, before getting caught. In one of his murders, the woman picked up a shot gun and almost killed him, however, the shot gun was not loaded. Because of this, he "snapped" shot her three times, mutilated her body, ripped her eyes out with a knife, and continued to stab her (and raped her corpse then drew a satan star on the wall with her blood). Now, not all criminals are capable of such a wide array of murderous creativity.
Another thing in regards to criminal behaviour, was a survey conducted a few years back, which included a simple question. Every murderer/criminal who was asked to perform the survey, answered it correctly. Where as regular people could not get close to the right answer x.x
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1 year 4 months ago
Well ...
there's various reason why that's happening.
but i think it was happening because it's easy to get firearms there .. .
there's various reason why that's happening.
but i think it was happening because it's easy to get firearms there .. .
It's funny how this kind of stuff happens in regular numbers. In fact it reminds of Emile Durkheim's study on suicide. Even though this is the most personal act it happened in regular numbers each year. It shows how society ultimately influences the individual.
Maybe the US should invest less in the military and more into education, health and other social developments.
Maybe the US should invest less in the military and more into education, health and other social developments.
1 year 4 months ago
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well ...
there's various reason why that's happening.
but i think it was happening because it's easy to get firearms there .. .
That's what the gun control lobby would have you believe--easier to blame an object than the person wielding the object. School shootings are a modern phenomenon that has very little to do with accessibility to firearms. Until 1934, I could run down to the hardware store and buy a Thompson machinegun. Until 1968, I could mail order a rifle from a Sears catalog. If we only take the time period from 1900-1966 (Charles Whitman's shooting from the bell tower), how many school shootings happened during this period when weapons were FAR more accessible? I live in a state with a rabid hunting community yet violence of this magnitude is extremely rare.
Virginia has a model concealed carry law yet the Federal government mandates "gun-free zones" where it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon. What if only one professor or one student, carrying a concealed weapon legally, would have been present or nearby? I'd hazard said madman would not have racked up so many corpses. Nearly all citizens who make the effort to obtain a concealed carry permit are very aware of the responsibility carrying a weapon entails. OTOH, gun-free zones are nothing more than a ripe killing zone for those bent on violence. The gun control lobby would have us become lemmings.
As a Jew, family history has taught me what happens when governments fail to protect, governments persecute through weapon control, and when propaganda teaches passivity. I REFUSE to become a victim and carry a pistol wherever I go. Hopefully, I'll never need it, but should an event such as what happened at VT occur, I am confident that I will be able to defend myself and others. Only a fool would rely on the ethereal protection that a government might or might not provide.
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As for the original question, if I was to lay blame, I would lay it at the feet of bastardized psychology politicized by radical liberalism (disclaimer: I'm neither a conservative or liberal). Obviously, not all psychology is inherently bad, but when radical liberalism creates an apathetic climate of political correctness that facilitates lack of discipline and lack of personal responsibility, children no longer learn the consequences of actions--just blame someone or something else. No need to mention the biased media that promulgates this method of thinking even further.
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There is a lot I want to say on the subject of gun control, school shootings in America and other countries, what was going on in the Virginia Tech school shooting, what the guy was doing and why- but all of this is off topic.
This thread is a little too specific to be able to include all of my thoughts. If I tried, I'd be way off topic. If I opened another thread on the shootings, it would probably be closed.
Ah well. Few people would bother to read it anyhow.
My prayers are with those who were killed, the killer, and their families.
This thread is a little too specific to be able to include all of my thoughts. If I tried, I'd be way off topic. If I opened another thread on the shootings, it would probably be closed.
Ah well. Few people would bother to read it anyhow.
My prayers are with those who were killed, the killer, and their families.
Read the rest of Leviticus and ask yourself why the "lying with mankind" thing is the only thing many Christians rail against. What about divorce, being inhospitable, not planting crops properly or eating certain foods? Why not have all that outlawed by the State as well? Hypocrites.
As sad as it was to happen, especially within my own damn state, I do agree with those that say it is related to the enviroment as well as someone's own mental capacity. We can only take but so much stress, heart break, anger, sadness, and all other manner of negative emotions before we finally snap and have things happen like what they did at Virginia Tech.
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Only a true murderer, can kill, no matter what the conditions may be.
Anyone is capable of murder, simply because we're all human and we all have that wonderful thing called human nature, which is always somewhere under the surface no matter how pleasant our dispositions may be. Some of us give into it, and some of us try a little harder.
But we're all capable of completely losing it for one reason or another.
I think it's just ridiculous to go out on a rampage and kill people just because you're really upset or for whatever the reason may be... [if it is true that] your girlfriend dumped you (as people have said on the news)... big deal, i'm sure you're not the only one who's been dumped before.
sure, people may hurt you and sometimes you want those people to just just die, but their families or friends suffer too when you take that action. i guess what i'm trying to say is, they are just sick freaks who'd die for attention, which is just pathetic.
well, that's my two cents :D
sure, people may hurt you and sometimes you want those people to just just die, but their families or friends suffer too when you take that action. i guess what i'm trying to say is, they are just sick freaks who'd die for attention, which is just pathetic.
well, that's my two cents :D
1. The shooter was Asian. There are no Asian Neo-Nazis/skinheads. So Hitler's birthday coming up on April 20th has nothing to do with it. Columbine happened on April 20, 1999, done by 2 white kids.
2. Reports (from media, probably the worst source of accurate info) said the kid was troubled and the true motive hasn't discovered yet. Don't be drawn in too much from what the news and media tells you. Please be aware of that.
3. A retard by the name of Jack Thompson will somehow find a way to blame this on video games, even though it probably have no involvement on it.
4. The next 2-3 months will be looking on who to blame until a celebrity dies and that'll get all the coverage.
2. Reports (from media, probably the worst source of accurate info) said the kid was troubled and the true motive hasn't discovered yet. Don't be drawn in too much from what the news and media tells you. Please be aware of that.
3. A retard by the name of Jack Thompson will somehow find a way to blame this on video games, even though it probably have no involvement on it.
4. The next 2-3 months will be looking on who to blame until a celebrity dies and that'll get all the coverage.