Mac or PC?
I think that the Mac has definitly made a comback and I totaly love the new look, no big huge hard drive like a PC. I would love to get some feedback from you guys before I purchase though.
I love PCs, they are not always the best looking design... but they are very versital.
I will admit I have wooked on a Mac for a long time and love the way they are designed, they are definitly beautiful machines... but they wont run Half Life 2 very fast ... :)
PCs are great versital machines... fast and functial... that being said...
watch and DL your p0rn on a Mac... no virus or spyware worries... or just get a GF :)
The computer i have is better than the most expensive computer on that site, except for the graphics card. I got this computer for 75)(800$ after taxes) canadian dollars.
If you've worked with PC its probably best to stay mostly because you will be way faster at using it, i know first hand because the lab at my school only has mac(well the "good" lab) partially because the weird extra buttons and the Ctrl key not doing certain things, but not only that.
not only do alot of things not work on them, i hate the mouse and keyboard, the way they have the keyboard and mouse set up just makes at least an extra step for alot of things. OK yes the operating system are more stable and whatnot, but as long as your not an idiot with your computer, and keeping it properly maintained, eg. keeping spyware off, keeping reg cleen, defragging, it should be totally fine. Yes there are no viruses for macs, but as long as you aren't an idiot with your computer you too can be virus free, i have been for two years, this computer which i got two months ago hasn't had a virus on.
i can understand maybe buying one for university or otherwise studying purposes, i when i need to will still buy a laptop. I would only buy a mac if i was forced to and then it would be a mac with the windows os on it.
I HATE MACS, AND I WILL NEVER BUY ONE LEST I HAVE TO!
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bak3donh1ghIf you've worked with PC its probably best to stay mostly because you will be way faster at using it, i know first hand because the lab at my school only has mac(well the "good" lab) partially because the weird extra buttons and the Ctrl key not doing certain things, but not only that.
not only do alot of things not work on them, i hate the mouse and keyboard, the way they have the keyboard and mouse set up just makes at least an extra step for alot of things. OK yes the operating system are more stable and whatnot, but as long as your not an idiot with your computer, and keeping it properly maintained, eg. keeping spyware off, keeping reg cleen, defragging, it should be totally fine. Yes there are no viruses for macs, but as long as you aren't an idiot with your computer you too can be virus free, i have been for two years, this computer which i got two months ago hasn't had a virus on.
i can understand maybe buying one for university or otherwise studying purposes, i when i need to will still buy a laptop. I would only buy a mac if i was forced to and then it would be a mac with the windows os on it.
I HATE MACS, AND I WILL NEVER BUY ONE LEST I HAVE TO!
Can you say "fanboy"?
Simply because you aren't used to the workflow of a Mac and have developed a bias against them because of it doesn't mean that they are inferior. Don't confuse preference with fact.
Macs are capable of getting a virus despite your assertion. They are not as prevalent however as OSX is not the most prevalent operating system and virus makers will tend to aim for the largest target possible.
Anyways that aside if your main focus is graphic design and similar applications Mac is the way to go due to colour handling. That said they cost more than a similar specification Windows PC and if you're looking at it for general use this cost may not be worth it.
Macs also tend to market themselves as an all in one solution and as such don't tend to be upgradable unlike a PC.
The other thing you will find is less people will be able to help you if you were to find yourself having troubles with a Mac due to their fanboyism as above and their lack of familiarty in the market.
If budget and upgradibility aren't high priorities there isn't much stopping you getting a Mac especially now that they are able to dual boot Windows via Boot Camp. If budget and the ability to upgrade do come into it, go for a Windows system.
And for the record I use a Windows box.
hamsterboyPC rulz the best thing about them is when you get the blue screen of death, Macs cant beat that
Well not really ... Now-a-days the new Macs that have the intel core duo technology, you can run windows on it as well ... and it works flawlessly ... I use a Mac with xp and mac os x on it ... and the compatibilty is really good ... when you run the original mac os you can drag and drop files on you xp hard-disk as well ... and you can access them when you log back in ...
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yespleasePC, the cost of components for macs is obscene, even if ppc can do more per clock cycle. well, it's not ppc anymore, but yeah... mac=expensive is the gist.
Thats not entirely true, yes Apple does sell some things for an obscene price (RAM and Hard Drives are the obvious ones). But most of the computers are now quite reasonably priced. I haven't been able to find a machine with a similar specification for lower than what I paid. The whole Mac's are more expensive is no longer really true (of course if you get some special coupons with Dell you can probably get a computer cheaper).
With the iMacs your not only getting a very good computer (unless your a gamer and need SLi etc...), but your getting a nice screen and some good software (iLife) to go with the computer. It's also very quiet and takes up very little room.
As for upgradability, it depends what Mac you get. Sometime soon I'm going to put another 4GB of RAM and another 3 hard drives in mine, it has a spare optical drive bay and 3 spare pci-express slots. The graphics card can also be upgraded easily. That said the iMacs can't be upgraded easily (it's still possible though), with the exception of the RAM.
I've actually just bought my second Mac, I will be running Windows on it so that I can use the one program that won't run/has no equivalent (Guild Wars). But the vast majority of the time I will be using Mac OS X.
And anyone who says that you have to use a one button Apple mouse and an Apple keyboard with a Mac is completely wrong.
I'd been using Windows and Linux for around 15 years (first I used was Windows 1.1 (not 3.1)) before I switched to the Mac OS. I had no problems at all getting used to the way Mac's work. Just remember the Option (Apple button) button does what the Ctrl button on a Windows computer does (Option-C to copy for example).
hatesyouThe other thing you will find is less people will be able to help you if you were to find yourself having troubles with a Mac due to their fanboyism as above and their lack of familiarty in the market.
Of course if you need help you can go to Apple's support forum on their site, and other sites like Mac Rumors, which has a good forum with plenty of people who are very helpful. Just don't go to a general computer site and expect to get much help.
+ if you are a student you can get a certain percentage off computers and other things on Apples online store.
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bak3donh1ghknew that hates you would come and flame me
lol... it needed doing
DeepDragoonJust don't go to a general computer site and expect to get much help.
... or lots of places offline as well. People tend to be scared of Macs due to their infamiliarity.
hatesyou... or lots of places offline as well. People tend to be scared of Macs due to their infamiliarity.
Yes thats quite true as well, also if you have a Mac you need to take it to a place certified by Apple for hardware repairs otherwise you can void your warranty. That said if I have any major hardware or software problems I'll just phone Apple (if I can't fix it myself, and the forums/sites don't help).
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DeepDragoonThats not entirely true, yes Apple does sell some things for an obscene price (RAM and Hard Drives are the obvious ones). But most of the computers are now quite reasonably priced. I haven't been able to find a machine with a similar specification for lower than what I paid. The whole Mac's are more expensive is no longer really true (of course if you get some special coupons with Dell you can probably get a computer cheaper).
Since I almost always build my own computers now, there's no way I could justify a mac. Sure, they may compare to some prebuilt PCs, but if you build it yourself, or happen to buy a d3ll when they go on sale ;), there's no comparison in terms of price. Software isn't a problem imho because linux provides more than mac or windows ever could, with superior stability, customizability, performance, and program selection, with certain types of high end programs being the exception on each platform. But... the caveat is that an individual needs to invest time when putting together a cheap system that's better than anything comparable from the store. So, if you have more dollars than sense, or more dollars than time, a mac is comparable to a PC for a novice user. But they still can't beat homebuilt/OS imle.
yespleaseSince I almost always build my own computers now, there's no way I could justify a mac. Sure, they may compare to some prebuilt PCs, but if you build it yourself, or happen to buy a d3ll when they go on sale ;), there's no comparison in terms of price. Software isn't a problem imho because linux provides more than mac or windows ever could, with superior stability, customizability, performance, and program selection, with certain types of high end programs being the exception on each platform. But... the caveat is that an individual needs to invest time when putting together a cheap system that's better than anything comparable from the store. So, if you have more dollars than sense, or more dollars than time, a mac is comparable to a PC for a novice user. But they still can't beat homebuilt/OS imle.
If you tried to build a identical system to my Mac I don't think you'd be able to do it cheaper than Apple. I have built my own systems before but with my current Mac I doubt I could get an equivalent system cheaper if I put it together myself. For the iMacs and Mac Minis you could probably build a cheaper equivalent system (not sure if you could do that and include a 24in screen), or build a system as small as the Mini.
As for the Windows, Linux, Mac OS thing the only relevance Linux has is that you don't need to pay for the OS, as Macs can run them all anyway.
Anyway your happy with your home built systems and I'm happy with my Mac (and other homebuilt systems), I don't feel like I've been ripped off by buying the Mac, and I'll agree that at the moment I don't have the time to build a system myself.
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