You guys need to learn to respect other's thoughts and opinions. If you don't agree, there is no need to be rude about it.

I, personally, believe in life after death. I believe that the Earth was created for a purpose: to be inhabited. But, thats because of my belief in God and the Bible. If you don't believe in them, then you obviously will not agree with me.

However, nobody KNOWS what happens after death (notice how I said 'believe', not 'know' in the statement above). Some of you say that you KNOW what happens. You don't KNOW, you haven't died.

I believe that what we call soul is just that 10% of our brainactivity, what we call personality is our actions and word that take shape and create an solid image off our selves.
When our heart will stop our blood flow will be stoped brain cells will gradually stop regenerating and that 10% we use will also decrease untill it reaches 0% during this period our senses will start failing sight and hearing will last about two minutes, at first we will feel lightheaded then dizzy after that we wont be able to tell the diference.I dont think it will be as simple as going to heaven or hell but i would choose hell anytime instead of unexistance.

When we are 5 our brain is like a sponge it thirsts for knoledge.
When we reach 15 through the knoledge we have gained we realise that we are not living in a dreamworld.
When we reach 20 through the knoledge we have gained we realise we are living in a nightmare.
When we reach 50 we try not to think about it too much.
When we die we cant think or realise anything.

Well you asked for my opinion :P

Who knows? we're not dead yet.

nekone041

You guys need to learn to respect other's thoughts and opinions. If you don't agree, there is no need to be rude about it.

I, personally, believe in life after death. I believe that the Earth was created for a purpose: to be inhabited. But, thats because of my belief in God and the Bible. If you don't believe in them, then you obviously will not agree with me.

However, nobody KNOWS what happens after death (notice how I said 'believe', not 'know' in the statement above). Some of you say that you KNOW what happens. You don't KNOW, you haven't died.

I agree with her, in terms of belief about life after death. And besides, like my first post in this thread: Try to die, then you'll know what's in store after you die.

Id rather not think about wat happens after i die, the present is more important to me right now. Since no one knows for sure what happens after death i just hope there is afterlife.

I was thinking after you die. You fall into a never ending sleep. Sounds so peaceful. Just forgetiing about everything...

We decompose I guess. Sometimes I think we lie to ourselves, saying "oh we are moving on to a better place" to just deal with death and make it easy.

I agree 100% with dualistico and crimsonangel18...

Realistically, yes; we die, go through rigor mortis before releasing amonia, rot and end up as fuel.

However I still think that whether or not it's true, it's still a comforting thought that there's something waiting for us on the other side. Whether it be Heaven and its pearly gates or (as said by another) a long deep sleep.

Like having the benefit of the doubt.

Cleric-Preston

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So dont run around and calling people morons if they do believe in something after death...since this is a matter of personal belief and opnion...

So you think that if I 'believed' that running around with nothing more than support stockings over my arms and a plumber's helper on my head will give me superpowers that wouldn't be stupid and people would't have the right to call me a moron, right?

Nidas

(...) You can disprove the existence of God/afterlife, etc? Then please tell me how, I'm all ears. Cos last time I checked its impossible to disprove an unfalsiable concept. (...)

Ok, that's easy. It can be done with a proof by contradiction:

1. Assumption god exists.
2. God is almighty.
3. From 2 => God can solve any given problem.
4. From 2 => God can create a problem of any desired complexity, including unsolvable problems.
5. From 3 => God can solve unsolvable problems.
6. From 5 => God can't create a unsolvable problem. That's a contradiction with 4, meaning our assumption was not true.

Hence god doesn't exist.
q.e.d.

nekone041

However, nobody KNOWS what happens after death (...). Some of you say that you KNOW what happens. You don't KNOW, you haven't died.

That's true. I don't know because I haven't died, but that doesn't mean that I have to make assumptions that are solely based on wishful thinking, and that are bluntly put unrealistic and stupid. I mean it's like thinking: "Hmm.. from the experience I made every single day of my life I know humans can not fly and things that can not fly will drop to the ground if they are in the air. But hey.. flying is sooo cool, so let's just jump out of that window and try."

Based on the knowledge that we have about the human body and especially the brain allows us to pinpoint the human mind to the brain. The brain itself consists of about 100 billion neurons. Each connected to about 10,000 other neurons. A neuron can fire a signal depending on the state of the neurons connected to it. So basicly our brains are just super parallel high power computers. If we had enough 'conventional' computational power we could completely emulate a human brain. This computer would in any aspect be as alive as every other living human beeing on earth. Now tell me how can this computers mind ascend to an 'afterlife' if we pull the plug? It would simply stop to function, no dreams no eternal sleep, no paradise simply nothing, not more not less.
And so are our brains, just compputers that stop to function if we die.

Jack

Ok, that's easy. It can be done with a proof by contradiction:

1. Assumption god exists.
2. God is almighty.
3. From 2 => God can solve any given problem.
4. From 2 => God can create a problem of any desired complexity, including unsolvable problems.
5. From 3 => God can solve unsolvable problems.
6. From 5 => God can't create a unsolvable problem. That's a contradiction with 4, meaning our assumption was not true.

I thought of this and some other syllogisms that would conclude the same, but then I thought this would only apply to the judeo-christian concept of god plus few others so I didn't bother.

So well, yeah, people who believe that something fancy happens when they die do it without a proof either and it is mere will to believe.

(...) You can disprove the existence of God/afterlife, etc? Then please tell me how, I'm all ears. Cos last time I checked its impossible to disprove an unfalsiable concept. (...)

Ok, that's easy. It can be done with a proof by contradiction:

1. Assumption god exists.
2. God is almighty.
3. From 2 => God can solve any given problem.
4. From 2 => God can create a problem of any desired complexity, including unsolvable problems.
5. From 3 => God can solve unsolvable problems.
6. From 5 => God can't create a unsolvable problem. That's a contradiction with 4, meaning our assumption was not true.

Hence god doesn't exist.
q.e.d.

That isn't even close to proof. Using linguistics, which by its very nature is limited, to try and prove or disprove the existence of God is made of lol and fail. That method goes on the assumption that God has human characteristics (a common trap which atheists fall into). What is unsolvable for us isn't necessarily going to be unsolvable for him/her/it. If God/afterlife/etc truly could be disproved then there would be no religions. Conversely, if God/afterlife/etc truly could be proved to exist, there would suddenly be a whole lot more converts.

I would love to know if there is a God or not, but since I have never heard a decent argument for or against it I just don't believe particularly strongly either way.

To the user who asked what unfalsiable means, it means that the concept can't be proved or disproved, making all arguments on the subject effectively pointless (though I still find them interesting). Anyone who claims to be able to prove or disprove an unfalsiable concept is either a liar or an idiot

I would like to ask a question concerning God. If he exists, how come innocent people and good people are always getting hurt and involved in bad situations (I see stuff on the news all the time). Little kids getting raped left and right and a mother was shot in the head and killed for no reason. If God is so powerful, why doesn't he do something.
Note: These people were the people who probably believed in God and prayed everyday.
I always wonder what keeps people alive, smarts or God...hmmm.

kieselgurgh

I thought of this and some other syllogisms that would conclude the same, but then I thought this would only apply to the judeo-christian concept of god plus few others so I didn't bother.

True, but that's still a big chunk.

Nidas

That isn't even close to proof. Using linguistics, which by its very nature is limited, to try and prove or disprove the existence of God is made of lol and fail.

That ain't linguistics (Linguistics is the scientific study of human language) that's logic.

Nidas

That method goes on the assumption that God has human characteristics (a common trap which atheists fall into).

I didn't apply one single human characteristic to my arguments. The attribute 'unsolvable' meant not unsolvable for humans, but unsolvable for god. So if there is a problem unsolvable for him (be it solving a problem or creating an unsolvable problem) he ain't a god (because there's nothing an almighty being can't do, right?).

Nidas

What is unsolvable for us isn't necessarily going to be unsolvable for him/her/it.

Right, but as stated above this was a problem unsolvable for god, not for humans. In fact a human could easily create a problem unsolvable for a human e.g. "Write a program to solve the Halting problem.". But that's ok since humans aren't almighty are they?

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I'M A BUDDIST SO IT'S THE REINCARNATION THING. BUT I SOMETIME THINK NOTHING HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE. THERE WON'T EVEN BE THE COLOR BLACK.