"Real Project" Ergo Proxy
p.s. Love Real Mayer...after Pino of course :)
p.p.s. I don't get how AP staff is thinking, really. First they accepterd my wallpaper for Darker than Black, a lot of people liked it. Then they deleted it... Now this one, I asked some people and they said that like it, but it was rejected...what ever. :)
Guess all my wallpapers should stay on my hard


#586955 Quote Report Edited by ~kaminokage 1 year 7 months ago
by Warrior, Gallery Moderator:
"The status of your wallpaper has changed to a Session Zero wallpaper:
Sorry, we have not accepted your wallpaper into the gallery yet, however we feel that with some help it can be so we have automatically submitted it to the session zero gallery, please refer to session zero for advice and tips on improving your wallpaper.
You can view your wallpaper at http://www.animepaper.net/gallery/wallpaper/sessions/item55504/"
#587275 Quote Report Edited by ~kaminokage 1 year 7 months ago
#587359 Quote Report Edited by ~kaminokage 1 year 7 months ago
maybe if she was cleaner would be better
try to add some lighting effects
keep working ^^
this is not a good quality wall'
the main false is the image a bit too blur..
your scan extraction didn't clean enough'
and the ghost face beside the "Ergo Proxy" text..
it's too stiff' i suggest you make it smoother..
you have a nice design in it'
anyway for suggestion..
don't just move on to submit because of hearing someone said they like it..
is that someone really somebody pro in the site?
if no.. better think twice'
if there are about three or four person said something like..
"The wall is great and ready to be submit.."
that time you can move on to submit already'
huahua' well, sorry if my criticism too rude'
and.. Good luck for the improvement'
best regards'
s3n1sh1man' don't know how to say it, but.. this is not a good quality wall' the main false is the image a bit too blur.. your scan extraction didn't clean enough' and the ghost face beside the "Ergo Proxy" text.. it's too stiff' i suggest you make it smoother.. you have a nice design in it' anyway for suggestion.. don't just move on to submit because of hearing someone said they like it.. is that someone really somebody pro in the site? if no.. better think twice' if there are about three or four person said something like.. "The wall is great and ready to be submit.." that time you can move on to submit already' huahua' well, sorry if my criticism too rude' and.. Good luck for the improvement' best regards'
1st - both (the background and Re-l) are a high quality scans, I didn't use any blur at all for them. I've made only a red eyes for ghost, and sure, use some affects and brushes to atach background and Re-l scan, so they won't look like 2 different images.
2nd - about Re-l extraction - I guess it's damn clean, I really don't see the way to make it better...maybe a bit blur for conners...but...don't know.
3rd - opinion. I have a lot of friends who are working as painters & designers, so their opinion can be considered as professional...
The problem with design is that thing which is highly liked by one group of people can be hated by another

#587489 Quote Report Edited by ~kaminokage 1 year 7 months ago

hey'
i like almost every part of your BG'
but.. the scan, that make the wall didn't worked out'
do you really extract/clean the scan?
by just a glance' i could see the blur stuff by it'
and after seeing the 2nd time' i saw the tip(conner) part of the scan still
very stiffy' it's true what you just said by that part'
(look at the chin part of the girl' full size.)
i think AP staff didn't like any single small mistake to pop out' haha'
well, this is not a forcing session'
i'm just suggesting here.. huahua' so..
better flow it with your own feeling'
and once again Good Luck'
i wish for the best improvement too'
adios'
best regards'

s3n1sh1...i wish for the best improvement...
Yeah, I also wish for it

p.s. and, I DID NOT use the blur at all...
#587505 Quote Report Edited by ~kaminokage 1 year 7 months ago
thx. 4 comments. I will think about it...
Any other advices?
#587583 Quote Report Edited by ~kaminokage 1 year 7 months ago
So here\\\'s what I think you can do to improve this wallpaper...
First off the character in the bottom left with the red glowing eyes, I would suggest you make them either duller or remove them totally. As that is the only red on the wallpaper it really distracts you from everything else that\\\'s going on including what you want to be your main focal point (the girl). If you decide that you want to keep them there then you will NEED to add some red in on the girl to balance out the wallpaper and so that your eye isn\\\'t drawn straight to them.
I\\\'m really not a fan of the black strip you have there in the middle with the text on. I think it\\\'s unessicary and doesn\\\'t fit with everything else that\\\'s going on. It feels alot like it was just thrown in there without any thought. What you should do is totally do away with that and put the text straight onto the background, then that strange face thing you should make it (not black) but as darker grey as possible, so that it stands out from the background. Also try to soften up the edges of that face thing some more too, at the moment it feels very jaggedy (esspecially against the black). If you do decide you want to keep that strip then you\\\'ll need to change the colour, I would suggest going for a dark grey as black is too dark and distracting.
Your extraction on your main character is good. Although the texture/dithered look that\\\'s over the whole wall... Is that intentional or is it from the scan? Either way I\\\'m not sure it should cover the whole wallpaper. I understand that you are going for a grungy look but it really just looks like it\\\'s there due to how it was scanned which maybe what was picked up on when your wall was rejected. If you want to use it then I think you should keep that grungy texture for the background and make your forground character look alot cleaner and crisper.
That\\\'s all I can see that I think needs work, if you are still really stuck though maybe you should send a PM to the member of staff that rejected it. I\\\'m sure they would be willing to help you improve it, or at least tell you why it was rejected.
Good luck!
CessaWow! You really want crits! My advice is chill out a bit, people will look and give you crit; Just be more patient ^_^ So here\\\'s what I think you can do to improve this wallpaper... First off the character in the bottom left with the red glowing eyes, I would suggest you make them either duller or remove them totally. As that is the only red on the wallpaper it really distracts you from everything else that\\\'s going on including what you want to be your main focal point (the girl). If you decide that you want to keep them there then you will NEED to add some red in on the girl to balance out the wallpaper and so that your eye isn\\\'t drawn straight to them. I\\\'m really not a fan of the black strip you have there in the middle with the text on. I think it\\\'s unessicary and doesn\\\'t fit with everything else that\\\'s going on. It feels alot like it was just thrown in there without any thought. What you should do is totally do away with that and put the text straight onto the background, then that strange face thing you should make it (not black) but as darker grey as possible, so that it stands out from the background. Also try to soften up the edges of that face thing some more too, at the moment it feels very jaggedy (esspecially against the black). If you do decide you want to keep that strip then you\\\'ll need to change the colour, I would suggest going for a dark grey as black is too dark and distracting. Your extraction on your main character is good. Although the texture/dithered look that\\\'s over the whole wall... Is that intentional or is it from the scan? Either way I\\\'m not sure it should cover the whole wallpaper. I understand that you are going for a grungy look but it really just looks like it\\\'s there due to how it was scanned which maybe what was picked up on when your wall was rejected. If you want to use it then I think you should keep that grungy texture for the background and make your forground character look alot cleaner and crisper. That\\\'s all I can see that I think needs work, if you are still really stuck though maybe you should send a PM to the member of staff that rejected it. I\\\'m sure they would be willing to help you improve it, or at least tell you why it was rejected. Good luck!
Yeah! That what I was waiting for!
You were right about red eyes, so I've changed it. About scans, both: BG & RE-L are high quality scans and both of them are from Ergo Proxy OST box.
Concerning the "strange face" (which is Pino face actually ^_^) I've smoothed it a bit, but decided to don't touch the color...yet :))
Than to make a better "conection" between BG & RE-L, I've decided to make "connection points" darker...guess it's the best way to make it look more or less like one image.
Strip...about that strip: As I have mentioned before BG scan was taken from EP OST box, and problem was that it has "MONORAL - Kiri" complete lyrics on it, so that was the only possible way to cut it off...
p.s. Hm...guess it's better to cut off the "[RE-L PROJECT]" words from wallpaper...what do ya think?

#587735 Quote Report Edited by ~kaminokage 1 year 7 months ago
even if you didn't use a blur on her, the way you blended her with the wall. makes it look like you did (especially on the face) so then the quality doesn't seem as nice. so in this case, i think she's a little too well blended with the background, her figure isn't defined as cleanly (like on her left shoulder and left side of her hair). Also, is the opacity of the character less than 90-100%? because it seems like the background is showing through, or is that the texture blended on top of her?
the white greyish areas (like the text and and face) i think stand out too much from your wall. if you changed the colours for those areas to a tone for brown, like the brown behind the "y" in "ergo proxy" i think that'd match the wall. because your wall is generall brown - dark brown/black, and i don't think the white/grey fits there. so i suggest going with light-brown, or change your wall to a completely black and white wall.
the font of the word "ergo proxy" is also kinda...not fitting, i suggest making it the same as the font for "[RE-L PROJECT]"
kiuurihmm...honestly it's not that badly composed. i think the problem though is with the character even if you didn't use a blur on her, the way you blended her with the wall. makes it look like you did (especially on the face) so then the quality doesn't seem as nice. so in this case, i think she's a little too well blended with the background, her figure isn't defined as cleanly (like on her left shoulder and left side of her hair). Also, is the opacity of the character less than 90-100%? because it seems like the background is showing through, or is that the texture blended on top of her? the white greyish areas (like the text and and face) i think stand out too much from your wall. if you changed the colours for those areas to a tone for brown, like the brown behind the "y" in "ergo proxy" i think that'd match the wall. because your wall is generall brown - dark brown/black, and i don't think the white/grey fits there. so i suggest going with light-brown, or change your wall to a completely black and white wall. the font of the word "ergo proxy" is also kinda...not fitting, i suggest making it the same as the font for "[RE-L PROJECT]"
You know if you change the color of her face - it will look really terrible..2 creepy...she become 2 look like some kind of vimpire...
About the "Ergo Proxy" it also won't look good if I'll chage the font, and use the same as for [RE-L PROJECT], I guess it's better to cut of [RE-L PROJECT] at all...
Also, I've made RE-L face & hands color more darker now, same as Ergo Proxy words...


p.s. Yeah, I know the easiest solution for all my problems...change resolution to 1024x768 so anyone won't be able 2 see any problem on wallpaper















