ToegaY-kUn

Sorry 'bout that. Hm... back to the topics, about Initial D. Still hard to get it here, but can you give me advice how to get it ?(do I have to import it from US or other countries? I don't understand much about Japanese, so I can only understand Initial D manga or anime that have been translated into English). I just can collect the DVD until the 3rd stage. And I don't have the manga at all. If you know what happens in the 4th stage, please tell me, even for a bit. (poor me... T_T ) Just bothering a bit, I use my car most for drift, but he used a drag spec to my car (torbocharger, racing pistons, intake manifold,lighweight flywheels, custom gear, engine management unit, etc., had been applied). 0-100 km/h in 5,4 sec. Back to the topics, is there any new tracks in 4 stage? (I've known that they add some new cars in 4th stage, but is there any new tracks?)

Here is the story line I took form Wikipedia about 4th stage:

This series focuses on the exploits of the new team founded by Ryosuke, Project D, which is comprised of Ryosuke (leader and strategist), Takumi Fujiwara (downhill specialist), Keisuke (uphill specialist) and a staff consisting primarily of members of the Akagi Red Suns. The team travels the region, challenging other teams and posting the results of the battles on their website. Each race is intended by Ryosuke to develop a specific area of his drivers' skills.

Takumi matures slowly into a more confident and knowledgeable street racer, while Keisuke improves on his technical driving skills. Takumi instinctively develops many new techniques through his own ingenuity after some prompting by Ryosuke, such as passing with his headlights off so that his opponent is unable to see him coming and block him, and using weight shifting to execute maneuvers similar to the gutter-hook technique on Akina.

Project D's opponents get progressively tougher. Their first adversaries are members of local racing teams, but then they progress to facing students at Todojyuku, a professional racing school, and then Tomoyuki Tachi, an actual professional racer, first when the school enlists one of their graduates to avenge their defeat and then when a street racing team they had previously faced calls upon a rally driver to race Takumi in an ultra-lightweight car.

As Project D's quest to conquer the area's street racing scene goes on, new relationships and old enemies complicate things for the team's members. Keisuke struggles with his attraction to Kyoko, a female street racer and fellow FD driver who he met by chance shortly before they ended up facing each other in a battle, as he fears having a girlfriend would take away too much time from his driving and cause him to lose his focus. Later on in the series, Keisuke breaks Kyoko's heart when he tells her that their relationship will not work out. Meanwhile, Takumi's old rival and fellow 86 driver Wataru watches Project D's exploits with interest, looking for a way to bring about their defeat.

The team encounters yet another different kind of challenge as a new set of opponents turn to deceit and intimidation rather than skill for victory. They damage Keisuke's FD, and he borrows Kyoko's to defeat them.

Eventually Project D face off with the senior members of the Purple Shadow Team. Kozo Hoshino, known as "God Foot", is a driver known for his magnificent footwork (able to make his Skyline, a very heavy and wide car, accelerate without lag naturally instead of through the use of a misfiring system) and possessed of an uncanny ability to maintain his concentration. He screams loudly while driving to release tension and prevent himself from making an error due to overconcentration. With his amazing combination of skills, he's able to make his 4WD GT-R drift, a feat considered impossible due to the fact that a stock BNR34 has an anti-slip system, ATTESA E-TS Pro, correcting the car's line if it were to begin to lose control. The GT-R he drives is a BNR34 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nür, a run-out special featuring the handbuilt engine from the N1 homologation version. Joshima Toshiya, Kozo's counterpart who known as "God Hand", is a driver known for driving skillfully with one hand using a Honda S2000, reminiscent of the "Ductape deathmatch" forced upon Takumi when he raced Shingo in First Stage. With his one-handed technique, he can limit countersteer and perform an ideal drift, conserving his tires while still gaining speed on corners. The overall theory for the one handed driving is that in doing so one is able to choose easily between the infinite driving lines possible in a race. Joshima spent all of his recent years trying to find out the limits of the technique, and in his studies after the race he teaches Takumi the theory of one handed driving. Though he doubted that Takumi would start driving with one hand, he did believe he would master using the infinite lines to his advantage in future races.

I hope that helped.

For the OST, I think it got way better! I like 4th stage OST than other stage OST. More faster beats and good tracks.

EMMMM...very hope the next volume come out soon...and anime too..coz i see the manga..so excited..got another false Project.D..so bad

Hey this can bring in girls who like cars. I didn't think I would be interested in Initial D, but I can't see myfavorite car (koenning seeg CCX, porsche carrera GT, & Subaru)

dony

Hey this can bring in girls who like cars. I didn't think I would be interested in Initial D, but I can't see myfavorite car (koenning seeg CCX, porsche carrera GT, & Subaru)

LOL, do you mean "Koenigsegg CCX"? I don't know, 4.7 L twin supercharged DOHC V8 which pressing 806 hp (601 kW) @ 6,900 rpm isn't fair in my point of my view against 86... But if you gonna go with Koenigsegg CCX I would choose Koenigsegg CCXR (1018 hp @ 7200 rpm). Porsche Carrera GT, V10 engine? Hm... Even with Skyline GTR R34 is straight 6 engine. There is a lot of difference in those two car its self. Japanese stock cars has limits of 280 hp or lower (unless it's limited or special edition). In other hand Porsche, BMW, Audi, and all other Euro and US don't have limits on hp so they can boost their hp all they want.

Well, I don't wanna say they shouldn't put those cars in, but maybe little more street level cars. Lamborghini, Ferrari, Saleen, Bugatti, and etc are not set up for street use racing.

But, if you wanna see those kind of cars in Manga, try like Wangan Midnight or Countach. They use few Euro and US sports car.

Koenigsegg CC X...WOW! this car is awesome..but i think is not suitable to put into Initial D manga or in anime..coz this car really fast..but i dunno in cornering fast or not..can drift o not? hahaha..but this car, if met with the god hand and god foot..u guess can win o not?

Ryosuke

Koenigsegg CC X...WOW! this car is awesome..but i think is not suitable to put into Initial D manga or in anime..coz this car really fast..but i dunno in cornering fast or not..can drift o not? hahaha..but this car, if met with the god hand and god foot..u guess can win o not?

really fast...? Are you kidding? CCX can smoke FD while going reverse (straight line). Reverse can go 103mph. 0~100km/h (62mph) in 3.1 sec. That's pretty high up there. Bugatti Veyron can do 0~60mph in 2.5 sec.! CCX even with V8 engine weight 1180kg to make it good example. Rx-7 Type RZ which was the last edition of Rx-7 which was ever made ('02) weight 1280kg. CCX weight 100kg less and 526 more hp. While FD is been FR type body shape, CCX is MR type has more 50/50 balance weight with wider and bigger tires to put all the hp in the ground. If you wanna say Rx-7 has twin-Turbo to help with lag, but CCX has twin supercharger (just side note. Turbo is for Mid to High RPM and Supercharger for Low to Mid power range), which both has almost 3 times more boost coming than Rx-7's turbos. This beast ALMOST don't have any weakness.... From my info.

But all the car has least one weakness. That make cars interesting. CCX cost €510,000 ($644,589 or £337,817) If there is guy that can by this car. I'm pretty sure, that person is not stupid to race in Touge. That person will go to track or somewhere more safe. Secondly, CCX was made for track use, regular street is nighmare. Suspension isn't made for street races, kill CCX if drift small uneven touge streets. Yeah, CCX come with Double wishbones, adjustable Racing gas-hydraulic shock absorbers, pushrod operated. Anti-roll bar. Electronically adjustable ride height... But all those things are setup for racing in track, not for street. Just say CCX race Akina Downhill. I have been to that well known, so-called Akina Downhill before and road is not smooth as people thinks. I can say 99.9% that CCX's suspension gonna be gone before finishing 10th lap of downhill Akina. If try Gutter-trick, there goes front bumber, suspension, double wishbone, tie-bar and etc will be flying out of that car. And just let you know CCX don't make aftermarket racing/sports suspensions (because it's already racing suspension). So, you have to get stock suspensions.

I think, I've wrote enough for today. Well, I hope that help you see the good side and bad side of CCX. Even with the perfect car, there is always some weakness. I could of gone little more, but that good enough to keep you guys confuse for a while.

Geez, Ichitaka Sensei. You sure have a lot of knowledge about cars.
I wonder where do you work?

So, there are a lot of new cars and new tracks in Initial D 4th stage.
An S2000 for Touge? I don't think it can goes well, since S2000 is best for straight tracks. All I know about S2000 is it's a heavy car, even heavier than skyline, and it's hard to handle. I've ever driven my friend's S2000, and I felt that it needs tons of skill to make a drift with S2000 (the steering wheels's very heavy).

European/Exotic cars for Touge?
Never imagined about it, too. It'll crush the guardrail before making a drift. 'coz their bodies are so wide. Moreover, they're too fast for Touge, you'll find yourself crushing the guardrail before you hit the brake pedal.
I really agree with Ichitaka sensei that European cars like Koenigsegg CCX, Lamborghini or Ferrari are for track purposes, not for streetrace.
But I'm sure if some European cars like BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi or Aston Martin can be used for streetrace and drift.

ToegaY-kUn

Geez, Ichitaka Sensei. You sure have a lot of knowledge about cars. I wonder where do you work? So, there are a lot of new cars and new tracks in Initial D 4th stage. An S2000 for Touge? I don't think it can goes well, since S2000 is best for straight tracks. All I know about S2000 is it's a heavy car, even heavier than skyline, and it's hard to handle. I've ever driven my friend's S2000, and I felt that it needs tons of skill to make a drift with S2000 (the steering wheels's very heavy). European/Exotic cars for Touge? Never imagined about it, too. It'll crush the guardrail before making a drift. 'coz their bodies are so wide. Moreover, they're too fast for Touge, you'll find yourself crushing the guardrail before you hit the brake pedal. I really agree with Ichitaka sensei that European cars like Koenigsegg CCX, Lamborghini or Ferrari are for track purposes, not for streetrace. But I'm sure if some European cars like BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi or Aston Martin can be used for streetrace and drift.

LOL, if you thinking that my work do something with cars... You're wrong. My work has nothing to do with cars. Just say, I sit down and do customer service. I have these knowledge about car is just my hobby. It's doesn't hurt to know something a lot more than other people.

As for S2000 (AP1), what year of S2000 did you drive? There are 2 types of S2000 now. AP1 and AP2. AP1 is from 1999 to 2003. AP2 is 2004 to now. And are you sure it weight more than Skyline? Because, ('99) Skyline GT-R R34 weight 3672 lbs, while S2000 weight 2809 to 2835 lbs.
AP1 has peeky sharp movements. Different torque band than other cars, some people say that, it feel more like bike. And true, it's hard to drive, but AP1 has potential and spec to beat Skyline in right condition.
AP2 which was given more softer expression. Red Zone was drop to 8000rpm. Suspension was more improve to shave off the idea of peeky sharp movement, but instead more smoother sharp movement. And inclease of torque. Engine got bigger by .2 liter more. As inclease of engine, still weight only 24 lbs more than AP1.
For S2000 in Touge, if you ever played Grand Trismo 4 in Tune-up shop called "Amuse" has 2 S2000 in there N/A S2000 is called to be "Touge Maoh" in Touge Race 200 (Hot Version). Even Keiichi Tsuchiya, Orido Manabu, Taniguchi Nobuteru, amaze how good it is. Well balance, while it's not peeky it has sharp like knife control, and has very smooth let ferm to the ground, can use both street and track races.
If you go back to Initial D, team: Purple Shadow, God Hand drive S2000. Tak had hardest time keeping up with him. Even 86 weight WAY MORE lighter than S2000. S2000 show some outstanding skills. Maybe it was because of God Hand.

As for BMW M-serie, Mercedes McLaren serie, Audi RS serie, and A.Martin serie (don't know too much about A.M.) can be done, but don't forget all these car can't drift well. Well, I should say, it was made NOT to drift.

And if you didn't notice, all the car in the Initial D tuned can be done in real world. Even Tak's 86 is possible (if you have a lot of money). In some way, Initial D is interesting because it's not too out of the world. I have seen some guy did same set up as Kyosuke's FD (wide body ver.). For example, Ryosuke's FC. Started out like 300 hp plus, but he de-tune down to like 240~280 hp (can't remember now). FC starts out from 200 hp, so changing turbo, front mount inter cooler, remaping ECU, Fuel Pump, in-out air system and etc can already puts out 240~280 hp. Now, only thing left is suspension. If you do grand total of stuff:

Rx-7 T2 - $8,000
Engine tune parts - $4,000*
Suspension + brake - $2,000*
Inside + etc - $1,000*
Total - $15,000~up
*It can go higher*
That's about how much I spend on my FC.. Maybe little bit less. But less than $20,000 you have drift car (not saying it's cheap). Overall just buying FC is something possible for people who read Manga than, buying BMW, Audi, Benz.

I hope it help out...

kn702086

i'm sure tat alot of guys here love cars, am i right? And i'm sure tat everyone here knew about initial d..even in anime too..may i ask tat izzit got anyone here read initial d manga? We can hav a talk here..hope to c you all guys here..and i really cant stop to read and talk about cars..coz i really love initial d this anime and manga..

He's driving ('97~'00) Subaru Impreza WRX STi Type are Version V (GC8) with STi Rally Sport front bumber conversion (no, it's not 22b). In the Manga his GC8 is black with gold rims, but in anime it's blue with gold rims like Impact Blue. And with I' more fan of FD over FC, not because of looks, but because of performance wise (in real world, not anime world). But Kyoko's FD wasn't bad either. With Single Turbo setup FD.

Initial D is awesome. It used to be one of my favorite mangas, but I haven't been able to catch up in over a year. I don't even know what's happening in it now.

Hm... It jsut me or did I heard those quote before?

Ryosuke

Hi..everyone here..i'm sure tat alot of guys here love cars, am i right? And i'm sure tat everyone here knew about initial d..even in anime too..may i ask tat izzit got anyone here read initial d manga? We can hav a talk here..hope to c you all guys here..and i really cant stop to read and talk about cars..coz i really love initial d this anime and manga..

ichitaka05

He's driving ('97~'00) Subaru Impreza WRX STi Type are Version V (GC8) with STi Rally Sport front bumber conversion (no, it's not 22b). In the Manga his GC8 is black with gold rims, but in anime it's blue with gold rims like Impact Blue. And with I' more fan of FD over FC, not because of looks, but because of performance wise (in real world, not anime world). But Kyoko's FD wasn't bad either. With Single Turbo setup FD.

illminded

Initial D is awesome. It used to be one of my favorite mangas, but I haven't been able to catch up in over a year. I don't even know what's happening in it now.

Or maybe just me....?

kn702086 - I don't mind you copy quotes, but proberly good idea to use "Quote". Some might be dumb enough to fall for it, but some people do read the forums with full respect to other people in the forum.

Hm... so you work at customer service department, just like my mom.

Well, no wonder, since there are 2 version of S2000. My friend's S2000 that I drove is 2003 S2000 (AP1). Now I know why it has a very heavy steering wheel.
Err... Maybe it's just me who haven't adapted with the steering wheel, so I felt like it's heavier than it should be.

And about S2000in 4th stage, is it an AP2 S2000? you said that AP2 S2000 has a definitely different performance and movement compared to AP1, so it can goes well in Touge race.
About GranTurismo4, I have never played GT anymore since GT2. Now I always play Need for Speed series, like NFS underground, Underground 2, Most Wanted and the last is NFS Carbon.

It's true that European cars like BMW, Mercedes Benz (especially AMG series, it's hard to drift with an SLR McLaren), Audi and Aston Martin can't drift well. Since they have different spec with Japanese cars.

Hm... It's interesting that you have spent that much money on your FC, Ichitaka Sensei. But do you know that my father spent more on my Altis? Maybe about $30,000 - $ 40,000. But less than $40,000 (just for performance)
'Coz racing is his only obsession since 23 years ago (it's a very long time).
so he has been saving every cents of his money since back then. And last year, He spent almost all of his saving on my Altis (it's his car, too).

Ok, Back to the topics!

ToegaY-kUn

Hm... so you work at customer service department, just like my mom. Well, no wonder, since there are 2 version of S2000. My friend's S2000 that I drove is 2003 S2000 (AP1). Now I know why it has a very heavy steering wheel. Err... Maybe it's just me who haven't adapted with the steering wheel, so I felt like it's heavier than it should be. And about S2000in 4th stage, is it an AP2 S2000? you said that AP2 S2000 has a definitely different performance and movement compared to AP1, so it can goes well in Touge race. About GranTurismo4, I have never played GT anymore since GT2. Now I always play Need for Speed series, like NFS underground, Underground 2, Most Wanted and the last is NFS Carbon. It's true that European cars like BMW, Mercedes Benz (especially AMG series, it's hard to drift with an SLR McLaren), Audi and Aston Martin can't drift well. Since they have different spec with Japanese cars. Hm... It's interesting that you have spent that much money on your FC, Ichitaka Sensei. But do you know that my father spent more on my Altis? Maybe about $30,000 - $ 40,000. But less than $40,000 (just for performance) 'Coz racing is his only obsession since 23 years ago (it's a very long time). so he has been saving every cents of his money since back then. And last year, He spent almost all of his saving on my Altis (it's his car, too). Ok, Back to the topics!

S2k in Initial D is AP1, it's not AP2.

LOL, I was never fan of NFS underground, not my type. But in GT4 Touge Maouh AP1 and they even have Tak's 86. It doesn't say "Fyjiwawa Toufu-ten", when you see it, you know.

WOW, $40,000. That's a lot. For me, I'm still College student that, I can't spend too much on car, so under $15,000 is my limit. and I spend not at once it took 2 yrs to buy parts and etc.

Yes, those Euro Sports Car is in different catagory. But I'm pretty sure, someone from Euro will say different. But in my view I can't see Audi TTQ and Subaru STI racing in touge. Or BMW Z4 vs 86.

But in future of Initial D, it's possible to see more different cars like 350z, NSX, ('07) Civic Si, ('07) STI, EVO 9, Supra, Golf (VW), Lotus, 207 (Peugeot), and all other kind. But for now, I'm pretty sure, it's stay around 86 and FD as main story as Project D keep going.

WOW! your guys very rich..i work so hard but haih~~~juz a little only..a few thousands only, not much..hahaha...i'm so envy you guys...really hope tat i can get a sports car..but i'm lack of knowledge of mechanic of the car...anyway, really hope tat the 5th stage will come out soon..and did anyone knows about the latest manga story? Emmmm...the fake project d? haha..but i got a bit disappointed abit coz it's totally different from manga into anime...i mean AE86 battle more than FD battle..

Err... How to say it, but Ichitaka sensei, You have two similar posts.
I guess there must be something wrong with your browser.

What...? That's AP1 S2000, but how can it be tuned perfectly for Touge race?
(here it comes, the irrational side of Ini-D)

Hm... do you hope that they'll put some European cars in initial-D?
I'm not sure, since it's so hard to got the licence from the trademark holder.
'coz we know that we have to pay some royalties if we use someone's trademark.
And I'm sure that the royalty for that European car's trademark is just very expensive.

Golf and 207 are FF type, I'm sure that Japanese manufacturer doesn't lack of FF car type. Cars from Lotus that I know it's possible for drift are just Exige and Elise. Other cars from Lotus are purely sports car, with wide body and have more than 400 hp, it's just too fast for Touge and make 'em hard to control.

But there is a very big possibility to see some new cars like you've mentioned above (Supra, although they've featured it in 1st stage, 350Z, NSX, Evo IX and maybe Eclipse), since readers always want to see the latest cars in Ini-D manga and anime.

ToegaY-kUn

Err... How to say it, but Ichitaka sensei, You have two similar posts. I guess there must be something wrong with your browser. What...? That's AP1 S2000, but how can it be tuned perfectly for Touge race? (here it comes, the irrational side of Ini-D) Hm... do you hope that they'll put some European cars in initial-D? I'm not sure, since it's so hard to got the licence from the trademark holder. 'coz we know that we have to pay some royalties if we use someone's trademark. And I'm sure that the royalty for that European car's trademark is just very expensive. Golf and 207 are FF type, I'm sure that Japanese manufacturer doesn't lack of FF car type. Cars from Lotus that I know it's possible for drift are just Exige and Elise. Other cars from Lotus are purely sports car, with wide body and have more than 400 hp, it's just too fast for Touge and make 'em hard to control. But there is a very big possibility to see some new cars like you've mentioned above (Supra, although they've featured it in 1st stage, 350Z, NSX, Evo IX and maybe Eclipse), since readers always want to see the latest cars in Ini-D manga and anime.

LOL, k I fix that problem with double.. Sorry

Like I said before, S2k (AP1) can be good car for Touge, but you have to set it up, right way. And having good reving RPM is good advantage in touge.

I can see like other Evo and STI series come into the Ini-D. Not sure about 350Z, NSX and Supra... To the certain level, those 3 are in top level Sports cars (not saying rx-7 isn't). But I think, we might see like Silvia series with better driver. Example S15, not two guys from Tokyo, but real good S15 driver. Or S14 (type K).. But I don't know, what they gonna be doing.

FTO/Eclipse is good car, but not sure they gonna use that. They might use 3000gt/GTO. There is so many sports/drift cars in Japan, so never know 'til we wait and see.

Really agree with your opinion, Ichitaka sensei.

Yea... we Know that Nissan Silvia S15 is a good car for drift, some American drift clubs often use them in drifting championships, too, right?
Two guys from Tokyo? who do you mean by that? do you mean two actors in Tokyo drift or some characters in Initial-D?

Don't know about the latest version of 300GT/FTO. And About Eclipse, hmm... maybe it isn't as good as skyline, but still a perfect car.

And I'm looking forward for the next volume of Initial-D, even it's still hard to get it here...