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Kenpachi's released zanpakutou

~chinaman91
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1 week 5 days ago

Roognok
I'll never except that Zaraki has Shikai in the show


So im assuming that you have accepted that Kenpachi has shikai in the manga!? LOL


Roognok
the author has contradicted himself


No he hasnt, your trying to contradict the author.


Ace07
SO FAR I HAVE READ TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES THAT STATE THE FACT THAT ZARAKI KENPACHI HAS A RELEASED (SHIKAI) ZANPACTOU, BUT I HAVE NOT READ ANY SOURCES THAT STATE THAT ZARAKI DOES NOT HAVE A RELEASED ZANPACTOU.


What do say about this post Roognok!? Chances are your gonna have no comment...

Last quote...


suiryu
Just accept that Zaraki has a shikai


Yeh, just do it

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~Kud
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1 week 4 days ago
IDC..what people are going to say ..kenpachi in bankai would be ..a very happy day for me. It would be worth all of the fillers :) Then it'd be like DBZ and take like.. 3 episodes just for him to transform! 3 seconds to kill everything around him but the enemy, etc etc.

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1 week 3 days ago
Chinaman91, I think its time that we tag team and kick Roognok's ass. Here is the link that you can go to, to prove that Zaraki has a shikai. you can read it as much as you want, but it will not change the fact that he has a shikai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenpachi_Zaraki

HERE, TAKE IT AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!!
End of thread.

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~Callista-Rhian
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1 week 3 days ago
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I'd love to see Kenpachi release his bankai... I think that it will definitely happen, as he has began to change (veeeery slowly) after fighting Ichigo. And when it does... aaah... I mean, he's so strong now, both w/ and w/o his eyepatch; what would he be like if he managed to move from shikai to bankai? 8)E emoticon |(n_n)| emoticon

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~Roognok
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1 week 3 days ago
You said it yourself chinaman, the manga is the Bleach world as the creator intended it to be. Now, how did he contradict himself.

Chapter 127, Page 5
Youruichi: "You need communication and synchronization with your soul cutter to achieve the initial release."

Note, NEED. Zaraki doesn't HAVE cumonciation with his zanpaku-to, therefore he can not have Shikai, the INITIAL RELEASE. Then the creator goers off and says, oh he's an exeption, he has shikai. boohoo..sorry, it's contradicting. Say what you want, I'm done. This is the PROOF that he does NOT have shikai, IN THE WORLD OF BLEACH AS THE CREATOR INTENDED. So what if the creator says he has Shikai, he's merley contradicting himself. Say one thing, write another...oh the hyprocracy.
and no, I dont except he has Shikai even in the manga, as stated above, THE PROOF IS FROM THE MANGA...

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~Callista-Rhian
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Uh, Roognok... There are exceptions to every rule... And Ken-chan must have shikai because, as you said, THE AUTHOR HIMSELF SAID SO. And you forget that Ichigo's sword has been in shikai mode since the very beginning, when he didn't even know what shinigami were, which just proves that there are exceptions to your rule.
Anyway, since whatever the author says IS WHAT HE INTENDS, he cannot contradict himself in the way you mean.
We're getting really off topic here, ya know...

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Suiryu
I think its time that we tag team and kick Roognok's ass.


Fcuk yeah...


Roognok
You said it yourself chinaman, the manga is the Bleach world as the creator intended it to be. Now, how did he contradict himself.


Are you fucked in the head, he has shikai with or without knowing his name. You only have one fact to base your point, yet we have many facts, including the author's!?


Roognok
Zaraki doesn't HAVE cumonciation with his zanpaku-to


Just ike you are unble to communicate with your own mind.


Roognok
So what if the creator says he has Shikai


This quote by Ace07 is one you still havent answered, and is the answer to all your crappy queries...


Ace07
SO FAR I HAVE READ TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES THAT STATE THE FACT THAT ZARAKI KENPACHI HAS A RELEASED (SHIKAI) ZANPACTOU, BUT I HAVE NOT READ ANY SOURCES THAT STATE THAT ZARAKI DOES NOT HAVE A RELEASED ZANPACTOU.


Oh and Roognok another quote/requote...


Callista-Rhian
Uh, Roognok... There are exceptions to every rule...


However...


Callista Rhian
We're getting really off topic here, ya know...


Not at all, we are discussing Kenpachi's released zanpakutou, that is whether he has it, and clearly he does.

Roognok, you may visit other sites and talk about the shite you introduce, but its wrong, and nobody on this forum has been gullible enough to believe you.

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~Ace07
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1 week 2 days ago
Btw I was just re watching earlier Bleach episodes and I found yet another source that state, correction, Zaraki Kenpachi himself states that he has a released Zanpactou ( Shikai) and why that is. Its where he was fighting Ichigo for the 1st time. Below is are two links, 1 for a subbed version and another 4 a dubbed version. They both say that he has a released Zanpactou and why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj334Uepe7Q&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k78AWqqPMzA&feature=related

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Chinaman91
Are you fucked in the head, he has shikai with or without knowing his name. You only have one fact to base your point, yet we have many facts, including the author's
He has a point there, we have a S&^% load of evidence and Roognok only has like let me see..... oh yea, 1.


Callista Rhian
Uh, Roognok... There are exceptions to every rule... And Ken-chan must have shikai because, as you said, THE AUTHOR HIMSELF SAID SO

DE DE DEE!!!!!


Ace07
and I found yet another source that state, correction, Zaraki Kenpachi himself states that he has a released Zanpactou
Good Job!!!


Roognok
and no, I dont except he has Shikai even in the manga

Which is why you're losing and we're winning ;)

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~chinaman91
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1 week 1 day ago
Where's Roognok!? LOL

~cyberrob50
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1 week 16 hours ago
In my opinion, Zaraki has NO release as of yet.

I will remind you, first, about Ichigo fighting that Menos Grande.
Ichigo already had amazing reiatsu, and his sword was big... But it was NOT yet the shikai form of Zangetsu. Since Ichigo didn't know the name of his zanpakuto, he couldn't go shikai.

Although, he may unconsciously had made a Getsuga Tenshou (although I am not sure about this fact at all) at that time, cutting the Gillian. Yet, I am sure that he made a reiatsu slash, as Kenpachi made one when he released his eyepatch for the first time (making a flat collapse).

The same goes for Kenpachi. He doesn't have shikai since he does not even know the name of his zanpakuto as of now, but he may have triggered a shikai ability unconsciously.

Well, now I just stated an opinion based on facts... I am not claiming to say absolute truth or whatnot, since I am sure that I left something aside.

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~Ace07
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1 week 14 hours ago
OH COME ON cyberrob50 Did you watch the youtube videos I posted in my previous post? I have shown proof that he has Shikai, show me something that state Zaraki Kenpachi does not have a released Zanpactou. Btw you cant perfom a special attack like Getsuga Tenshou without having a released Zanpactou.

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~cyberrob50
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1 week 13 hours ago
Ace07, please relax ^^ I saw the video and compared it to the manga... Actually, I am a manga reader (anime comes second to me, not as trustworthy as manga) and the manga part is rather vague...

He says that it is his only sword's true form... Not his Zanpakuto's true form. I don't think he truly knew the sense of a zanpakuto until he actually fought Ichigo.

He may have a forced shikai, but I'm sure of one thing: he has no shikai ability seen so far, unless it is Extra-cutting power, then he would have gotten shikai way before entering Soul Society XD

As for your point Ace07, I do not disagree with you ;) I'm left a little clueless by the Anime version of it now that I pay more attention xD I'll try to gather more information ^^

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~Ace07
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1 week 11 hours ago
Am not pissed, its just that we are goin round in circles lol. About the Shikai ability and stuff, the thing with Zaraki is that he doesnt know shit. I mean he cant use Shunpo, or demon magic (kidou). The only thing he's got at his master swordsmanship. The reason he doesnt use any Shikai ability is that, how do I put this, he's not very bright, which is the same reason he cant perfom eni of the other shinigami fighting styles such as Shunpo. Also it might b because he wants 2 enjoy the fight, and using a shikia attack is goner ruin everything.

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~cyberrob50
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1 week 9 hours ago
Actually, he wants to enjoy fights. Well, also, Zaraki is the only captain that didn't have to go through the shinigami academy.

So, basically, he didn't undergo the kidou knowledge exams, the swordsmanship ones as well as the "know your zanpakuto's name and shikai" one.

Still, he was able to shunpo *just remember his fight against Ichigo when Ichigo had actually to hear Kenpachi's bells to locate him*


On the sideline, now:

Other theory that I will put: Zaraki's zanpakuto is nameless and Zaraki himself will give it a name. Let me explain it:

- Zaraki has no name to begin with and he had to give himself a name (as well as Yachiru)
- It is said that zanpakutos are LIKE the users (refer to Yumichika talking to his zanpakuto and insulting him - same for Matsumoto).

Taking these points under consideration, I say that the day Zaraki will give a name to his zanpakuto, he will be able to truly use shikai (maybe even bankai).