Yeah, so, have you seen the latest bleach episode? If not, shame on you.

So, for those of you who have, what do you think? My opinion, is that the Zanpakutos are rebelling because they feel used, but eventually, the main antagonist is going to betray them (it's so obvious) and the Zanpakutos will go back to their respective partners.

So, here's the thing: Who, or more specifically, WHAT do you think Muramasa is?

Also, what do you think of the Zanpakutos? Disappointed in some? I really got put into perspective when I saw the soul of Hisagi's Zanpakuto. "Fear your power"? For what? It is your power. If you fear it, it will never reach its full potential. But after I saw its barbaric ways... I can't help but to wonder... You know, they say that a Zanpakuto is a reflection of its partner. So, if this is a reflection of Hisagi, then what exactly IS Hisagi?

So yeah... rant. I want to know your opinions. :)

Well all I know is that it could be a very interesting arc which is really related to a real Shinigami content. Unlike the Bount Arc, Bleach fans will finally get to know the origins of their Zanpakutos.

A new arc without zaraki :(

Lol yeah no zaraki is a shame but for once a filler could be interesting.
I mean i really don't like them usually but this one begin well enough.
So i think i'll continu to watch it for a while...

I'll answer my own question on "Who or what, do you think Muramasa is?"

In the last episode, he just revealed that he is a Zampakuto. I don't know why, but I think it might have something to do with Yoruichi. She never has her Zampakuto with her, and they only showed it once in a memory. Looks wise, I would never have guessed that this is Yoruichi's but... name wise... it sounds like something she would say....

I bet I'm wrong.

FourthEspada

I'll answer my own question on "Who or what, do you think Muramasa is?" In the last episode, he just revealed that he is a Zampakuto. I don't know why, but I think it might have something to do with Yoruichi. She never has her Zampakuto with her, and they only showed it once in a memory. Looks wise, I would never have guessed that this is Yoruichi's but... name wise... it sounds like something she would say.... I bet I'm wrong.

I have to disagree. There's a golden rule that Bleach animators have followed so far, and that is "never reveal any new power before its debut in the manga". When Rukia appeared during the Bount arc, her shikai had already been revealed in the manga, I think, but they didn't show it before its real debut (when she fought Di Roy and Grimmjow). I think that's the reason for Zaraki being missing, his zanpakuto is a complete mistery, even in the manga. So that's why he can't be Yoruichi's zanpakuto.

About this arc, I think the best spirits are Wabisuke, Sode no Shirayuki and Sogyo no Kotowari. Once I saw then, I thought "They couldn't have been any other way!!" Sogyo no Kotowari is/are so cute! Minazuki intrigues me, and I'm disappointed by Senbonzakura. I wanted a beautiful miko-girl!! I hope that he at least takes off his mask and reveals a handsome guy. Ruri'iro Kujaku is really amazing looks-wise, he really reflects Yumichika's personality, just with his "full-of-himself" smile. I didn't like Suzumebachi. The concept is perfect, a small insect-size girl with gold and black clothes, but she could've been prettier, more like Soifon. I like Kazeshini, he'll fill up for half Zaraki, I hope. Katen Kyokotsu is really cool and I never expected her to look like that. Tobiume is really nice, though I've never been too fond of Momo, and her bells are awesome. Zabimaru being a girl puzzles me, I hope they clear it out on ep 234 that's supposed to be called "Renji's confusion! The two Zabimarus". Tenken... well, it was to be expected and I really don't like Komamura that much. Hozukimaru surprised me, I had though of some sort of badass-looking samurai, but that one isn't as bad. What can I say of Gegetsuburi and Gonryomaru? The latter was very unexpected, seeing that Sasakibe loves Western culture, but other than that I have nothing to say. Haineko's look couldn't have been different (maybe gray fur representing the "Ash"?), but she's too bitchy for my liking. Hyorinmaru looks cool, but maybe more dragon-ish atributes would've been better. I think those were all...?

About the latest episode

SPOILER (click to view)

I think the drawing for Sode no Shirayuki was better on the first episode, now her face looked a fit rounder and that kinda damaged her beauty. Still, she's the most beautiful zanpakutoh without question. I loved that determined angry look when she was fighting Rukia, it was like "Beautiful danger". The episode in itself was amazing, and I really liked Rukia's reflections on her relationship with Shirayuki, and how Sode no Shirayuki reached for her after Rukia used the Soren Sokatsui. It was another beautiful scene

I'm expecting a lot from this arc. I think Ichigo's acting a bit stupid. Before rushing into a realm where the zanpakuto are set free and turn against their shinigamis, he should've talked to Zangetsu about it, make sure about their relationship and that sort. We all saw the Preview for next episode, Zangetsu is apparently going to turn against Ichigo (if the episode title "Zangetsu becomes an enemy" gives off any clue...) What I'm really looking forward is to seeing Byakuya really confron Senbonzakura, Hisagi vs Kazeshini, and Ukitake vs Sogyo no Kotowari.

I don't think will see much of the captain's zapakutos of which we didn't see the bankai yet. So Ukitake, Shunsui and the others won't do a lot in my opinion. And yes that's a shame.

I think Zaraki is still going to be in here. Maybe he'll help out in making everything better... or the arc could end and we find him hidden in the middle of no where drinking sake. Sounds like him, that lazy oaf. < 3

I'm really liking the new arc. Zangetsu stated that he hates Ichigo's inner world because there are no plants or trees in it and yet he never mention anything about it to Ichigo until now. Could it be that Muramasa is using the Zanpaktou Spirits own disdain towards their Shinigami partners to cause this revolution? I'm just pondering the thought.

Shirosaki's back! Plus the stronger form which appeared in the manga. Zangetsu lost badly against that one. Is Mayuri experimenting on himself? Next week, Hisagi vs. Kazeshini, Muramasa vs. Ichigo/Shirosaki! Shinigami Golden shows the Shinigami Men's Association going to the beach...lol.Weils, never say "that hollow form from the manga" like that again...

You nearly worried the pants off me, I thought you meant as in Ichi-Thing... that would have destroyed the integrity of the anime and the spoiler of the manga...

I'm glad that Tite Kubo and the producers brought out this form though... It means that the next stage is going to look awesome in the manga and it is also really good that this form looks amazing too especially sice it died on us during the first time we saw it... ...

Oh well, this epsiode was AMAZING! And for all those people that said Hollow Ichigo was coming out was right...

And I guess that means that the reason ichigo had Zangetsu in shikai form was one reason... it was his hollow half... thus Muramasa had succeeded in seperating Ichigo's hollow and zanoukto... and I think he realised that was a dumb move ...
I am torn between ten and nine. Ten because of a little ShuuheixRangiku inside the Shinigami Golden. Nine because I feel cheated seeing Ichigo transforming into HollowIchigo with just one Getsuga Tenshou blast. They should have shown Zangetsu properly beat the hell of Ichigo before making the transformation. It's so cheap.
I'm jumping on this bandwaggon too...

I have to say, this series could have had the potential to have been better than what it is now had Kubo written it in the manga and we may have gotten ichi-Thing as opposed to Ichi-Lizard...

This filler is still amazing though...

But I'm sure that there is alot of Kubo involvement with this series which is why so many of these things we're seeing, like Ichi-Lizard are being seen again which is nice to see as it makes the filler faster, smoother and far more engaging...

My only complaint is the way fillers in general re-hash plot events or scenes for certain moments, like the transformation of Ichigo into Ichi-Thing...

Nevertheless, the animation this filler has been amazing...

I also like the zanpukto intro with them discussing... over something ...Komamura's still out cold. He could get up moments after Aizen's Hado #90: Black Coffin. That injury from Tenken must have been really bad.

Just like the Bount Arc, he probably won't be shown again (in this case, conscious) until near the end, except in Shinigami Golden, he wasn't even in the Amagai Arc (for all I know). Sheesh! Bleach is a fanbase anime! The only ones who are shown a lot or don't get owned that often are the one's that are the most popular!!

If he's killed as an example of power, or the first or only person to die (if Kubo starts killing off his characters in the manga). I'll give up bleach forever! That's a promise!!!!!

Anywho, great ep. Mayuri's still a freak. And in Golden, the Shinigami men's society got screwed over yet again. XD
Maybe Bya has somehow switched places with his Zan. I mean their voices are v.similar and the Zan wears a mask. All Bya had to do was high binding kidou and switch gear... All at shunpo pace ofc... /Sorry Crack theory of mine.....

I gave this 10/10. Just seeing Shiro again gave me goosebumps. I love OMZ but he was seriously out-fought by white and ebilness... /snicker
Some of the animation was v.good others - such as Lizarchigo was a bit suspect but the action means I can easily overlook this.
Loved seeing Mayuri doing more weird sh*t to himself...yuk-yuk...
I'm beginning to look forward to the anime almost as much as the manga chptrs - how unfortunate is that!Come on KT get us out of FKT - stale is not the word.

Zaraki with his zanpoaktou? Nver! hes already a captain and yet he does not know his zanpaktous name its like that for a reason :p i wish he could go all bankai D;

Zaraki will never reach Bankai. Mark my words.

Haha, i totally dropped the anime b/c of the fillers and bad animation, never thought people would get excited over a few episodes where the sole purpose is to stall for time.

But besides that, with all due respect, i think you are looking way to much into the storyline. Quotes like "fear your power" is there to make the anime sound deep, after all, it is a shounen anime.

And secondly, you can't really predict what is going to happen with a shounen anime, case and point: after Kakashi dies and the manga's rating drops, he comes back a few chapters later. So if the ratings call for it, Zaraki could get bankai, shikai, a girlfriend or whatever. It WILL happen.

I also beleive that Zaraki will never have the bankai cause if Kubo do that, it'll ruin the character for ever.
And the fact that he doesn't have any "spirit" in his sword could be a huge plus for the shinigami against Murumasa.

@~Shirozakii

You're really are arrogant aren't you?

It's true, a lot of things can and will happen to bring a manga up in rating. But you make it seem so terrible, I feel like as if you really don't appreciate it as a story, you don't appreciate the life of it, you don't respect it.

I mean, what's the point of reading a story if you can't respect it? Why can't you look into it and see the beauty and the ugliness in it? How could you love it at one moment and the next hate it dreadfully as if you saw an terrible and monstrous creature and yet, haven't bothered to look beneath the surface?

I admit, there are some things about bleach that make me really unhappy. I admit, there are some things could be changed. I'm not saying should because, I'm just a fan, a side specter if you will. I respect every origional story (except twilight), and I think that one shouldn't do anything to it that aren't the writer's origional ideas. I mean, in that case, where is the story? The story in this case is with Tite Kubo, the soul of Bleach is with him. Respect it, that's what I do. But if you're going to disrespect it, then at least look into it. Don't bash it the way you do, it's pointless.

This is a thread about your opinions and perspectives about the new arc. Not about how much you hate bleach.