I don't think there's any afterlife, I think we just cease to exist. I don't see any sense in believing in heaven, hell, or anything else.
Plus, you can live your life much more fully if you believe you only have one chance at it.

akatonbo

*i'm moslem too, but my knowledge very bit T_T* i must learn more nya~ >.<

this for you

5 Natures of human beings through the journey of life - islamic views-

nature spirits

Humans are the last creatures created by God Almighty. after God has created other beings like angels, jinns, earth, sky and everything in.
God created man to be prepared to be the most perfect creature. Because, man was created to be a caliph (leader) in the earth.

The age in the womb

The first Rihlah people will go through a natural life in the womb: 40 days of sperm, a 40-day 'alaqah (blood clots), and 40 days of mudghah (flesh), then spirit and be blown fetal perfect. After about nine months, the man born into the world.

All the people in the world whatever their social condition to be reminded of the early events originating from the abject object, namely the man's sperm and egg cells women. Humans not previously known, yet have the glory and honor.Then if the man would be proud, arrogant, and arrogant with the social conditions experienced by now to know their origins?

After reaching 6 months to 9 months or more, and the requirement to complete a normal life, like the senses, mind, and heart, the man born into this world naked. Not to be nothing and do not have anything.

World

From the start babies drink only breast milk and the body becomes of children, adolescents and baligh. Later became an adult, old and ending with death. This process is not running the same from one person to another. Death will come at any time to meet people and do not know the age. Some died in infancy, partly as childhood, while others are teenagers and adults, others as even a senile old man.

The age of the grave (Barzakh)

The next phase will enter the human or natural grave barzakh.. There they lived alone.That will accompany the charity of their own. Bury is a garden from the gardens of Paradise or valley of valleys of Hell. Humans have to learn his fate when they are in nature barzakh.


the age of the Hereafter (after the final stage the Day of Judgement)

And the next Rihlah on the final day of life with all the details. Life of the Last Day of Resurrection preceded with the occurrence, the total destruction of the entire universe. Events after the end of the world is mahsyar, ie all human beings from the beginning the Prophet Adam. until the last human being collected in one place.In humans there are not collected in a grounded leg, naked, and had not circumcised. When the sun is very close distance of about a mile, so the flow of sweat from the human body according to the charity. There are up to the ankle, there are up to the knees, there are up to the navel, there are up to the chest, even many who drowned in sweat. The next event is the hisab (calculating charity) and mizan (scales charity) for men.

Believers will get paradise and silk for their patience. In heaven they sat back on the couch, do not feel the hot sun and very cold. They are shaded by trees and the fruit of heaven is very easy to pick. They also have vessels of silver and goblets is clear drinks. They'll drink a drink that tasted heavenly so good as a ginger drink spring water imported from heaven named Salsabila. In heaven there are also many rivers that contain an assortment of beverages, the river is clear springs, rivers of milk, wine rivers, and rivers of honey.

Paradise will be served by young children are very beautiful when seen as scattered pearls. Heaven is full of pleasure and a great kingdom. The believer in Paradise wear fine green silk and thick silk, also wearing a bracelet made of silver and gold.God Almighty. give them something to drink clean drink.
And last but not least the pleasure of the wives and the angels of heaven. They clean white glow, round-eyed, short eyes, always the girl my age has not been touched humans and jinn. Plump breasts and fresh, not having menstruation, childbirth, and pooping.

Culmination of all the pleasures in heaven is to see the creator God, the Most Beautiful, Perfect, and the Mighty. As people can see the moon in unison, as a human would see God in unison. Beautiful, stunning, reverent, and holy.

I hope this explanation could help you.

Maybe it's just me, but that was terribly hard to read/understand. Still very interesting, seeing other perspectives. Are these things written in the Qur’an?

I can't speaks english well. sorry .

chris

Are these things written in the Qur’an?

yeah

This is getting more interesting

ChrisWas

Doesn't skepticism prevent theoretical thinking?

I hope not. I'm skeptical, but not as radical to forbid myself some theoretical, hypothetical or even dogmatic thinking. Or maybe I'm not a truly skeptical?

What I wanted to say was that I don't believe in afterlife, but how to prove that? Dying and returning would be the only way, and only to prove it to yourself. But again, the afterlife existence, unproven as it is, gives me the benefit of doubt, and actually it would be very nice if that were true. I agree with CloudGer in the point of view that there's no much we can do regarding afterlife, believers or not. However, I also agree with ChrisWas that it is not wasted time, because as I tried to say, if you focus your efforts in enhance your morale, cultivate your soul and live a peaceful life in order to have a nice afterlife, you are actually making this life (and the world) a better one, regardless the afterlife's existence. Living this life in an appropriate way goes beyond afterlife's reality. My advice is focus on this life, if you live it in the right way, theoretically you will gain a good afterlife, even if that's not your purpose.

Wow sombody's um passionate and very well expressed

CloudGer

You should forget the afterlife and focus on the presence. When you're life comes to an end you will regret if you were distracted by thoughts abt what could or will happen after all the time. It's wasted time, because thinking doesn't change anything and only causes fear and depression for most people.

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Based on what I think about the afterlife I stopped thinking abt it. The only thing I want when I die is that when I'm old and I can look back and say "wow, I really had a great life and I really enjoyed it as long as lasted."

You can read my thoughts abt afterlife here btw: (this thread was already closed a while ago)

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Quoting Myself

To believe in afterlife is ridiculous for me.
The definition of death is when all organs have failed. Especially when the brain stops working, you cannot come back.
Now that your brain is not working anymore the logical consequence is that, what you called 'yourself', your soul or whatever cannot be generated anymore. Hence you are what humans call 'dead'.

It's extremely arrogant of humans to think that after that they would still live (wherever). Why do we, in an age where we don't have to believe in ancient religions anymore, because they aren't necessary due to research and stuff, still need to hold at something we should know doesn't exist?
Afterlife is an outcome of fear. The fear to vanish. Humans take their selves to important and cannot get on with the fact, that it's just a coincidence that they were born as this individual they experience.
And also that this experience will come to an end sooner or later.

We are lucky that we have the possibility to develop a deep mind and we are able to enjoy life much more than most livings on this planet I think.
But we don't appreciate that. We want more. We are greedy. We want to live forever... That's so pathetic really.

ANd why only humans out of all? Why wouldn't animals have the possibility to go to heaven too? You may argue with the "creation's crowning glory" humanity is in the opinion of christans and other religious communities... but that again is even more arrogant... to think something created us to rule our everything.
And in the end humaity will destroy the planet eventually. So nothing about cration's growning glory... in fact we are an accident, a disease killing the planet.
Evolution went to far in this respect. Ironic that so many people still think that humans stand over everything else.

Back to the topic again (because I seem to lose myself in that, and I don't want to bash humanity any more in this lol):
Our mind is just generated by this big cluster of albumen in our head (I'm reffering the brain for those who don't get it >_>). We don't even have something like a free will, our brain is controling us, generating any emotion and even more. We can only make use of a third and most processes run subconscious .
Why? Simply because our mind can't cope with all the stuff. We are lucky and only have to bear the comfortable things like what we call 'thinking' or our senses.

Now, seriously why the heck would only this little, for living not really that necessary part of our brain exist further (even when the causality vanished).
If you think about it, it's extremely dumb to believe our mind would somehow 'seperate' or move to some other dimension (heaven/hell etc).

You have to accept one thing:
Death is the end.
The end of your life, but not the end of your existence.

We all consist of a certain part of matter. After big bang all the matter that is arround the universe right now was released. And if you know something about physics/chemistry you know that things only change their forms, but nothing is created and nothing can vanish.
That happens with a dying human aswell, and we don't even leave our world. We become a part of our earth again.
Only because your appearance changed and you are not 'living' in a human sense anymore doesn't mean you don't exist anymore.

Life and Death are terms only to describe what happens with a human. Existence in contrast is something infinite, something incontrovertible.

So don't think too much about death or afterlife. Accept that your mind will vanish, but you will still part of the big everything. =)
Also you better enjoy your life instead of what comes after.

and I am not claiming, anything of what I just said is true =\
I'm just a little human too, how would I know...
This is just my personal opinion about the topic.

Yeah you really should not worry about what happens when you die. I mean you certainly don't want to wrong others that's kind of a given. But still live in the moment with out forgetting the consequences of your actions.

It's my personal belief that you live not only for your self but for the continuation for your family line. To give those that will come after you a chance at a better life.

Not to say that you should deprive your self, just the opposite indulge in life and live it to the fullest, learn form you mistakes, and try and better your self. Whether it be you body, mind, spirit, social standing, job, etc...

Just knowing that you lived an amazing life and have no regrets, stood up for what you believed in, and left you family in good standing.

@~Gvnkwyr:

You're right, it's fair to say that my statement was directed only at extreme skepticism. Just about everyone is a skeptic, but I should have clarified the direction of my question at the extremists.

I don't know whether or not there is an afterlife. Noone knows, I suppose, though there are a lot of people who think that one exists without ever having seen or experienced it... I have always believed that, with such a logical determination being accepted given such inconclusive evidence as standard, presumably, I should still believe in Santa Claus, though, I suppose what one believes depends on individual distinctions of what constitutes reasonable and unreasonable given the circumstances.

I do believe, however, that the universe continues to chug along well after the stage called "life" that our summary particles experience has ceased its intricate pattern. Perhaps these same particles will one day feed the earth, soon to be consumed by a plant, that is then eaten by a cow, that is then devoured by a wolf, then gnawed at by a vulture, then whittled at by a worm, then snapped by a fish, to eventually be consumed by a woman, that is pregnant with a child who is consequently fed and formed with these same particles, breathing life once again from the endless cycle.

Nowhere, I think.

Honestly, I hope I’m wrong. I really don’t like the idea of eternal nothingness. I feel so empty when I think of that for those who’ve lived shitty lives. To think that some miserable dude’s walking around after a really shitty day, and he’s run over by bus, and that’s it for him… that brings me down. It’s for those people most of all that I want there to be an afterlife. So they can have joy in some realm.

Naturally, I don’t want the major religions to be right. Otherwise, I’m up shit’s creek because I go to Hell with a one-way ticket. If there’s an omnipotent god, I’m hoping he’s like one of those teachers who, as long as you try, will pass you. In other words, try your hardest to be a good person, and you’ll get into Heaven.

Yeah thanks all, care about this things nya~ ^^
its more important for me for better life ^^
i really thanks soo much for you all >.<
keep your life and more enjoy about life, because life is one nya~
ganbare~

I dont believe in heaven or hell but it doesnt mean that could be afterlife,maybe the soul exists and we are constantly recycling ourselves,i mean reincarnation.I dont know xD but that is not the question.So if exists afterlife i will go to other planets,this one is kind of boring and evil

Just another reason why religion exists. The thought of an afterlife makes living life more comfortable with the approach of our inevatible deaths. There is no such thing. When we die we return to nothingness. Its this uncomfortable truth that makes us delve into religious escapism.

This is a kind of exustence that is thought by some to follow death.In an afterlife,my thought naturally turns to my family that is my birthplace in previous life. Next,I hope that the social and intellectual life should not be again dispirited ,False,and boastfulness in my country.Thirdly,I hope that our scholars and other people will endeavor to make the subject of their studies useful to daily life,and base all that goes under the name of culture on the needs of nation.They should grasp the meaning of overman's philosophy ,"To act is easy," and realize the significance of "faithful action" as a principle of practice.Equal emphasis should be placed on intellectual and moral education. there should be coordination between civil and military matters. One should use both brains and hands,with a unity of understanding and action.In this way,the prevalent social and intellectual life can be fundamontally improved,and all our past faults such as corruption,hypocrisy,superficiality and boastfulness can be eradicated.