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Design ideas
Sorry if i took long school is coming.
if we need some pace BG i think i found sojething we can use or maybe we can make this an skeleton for our BG.
http://www.chrischappellmurals.com/murals/Space/images/space1.jpg
spaceship
http://dsandler.org/entries/images/shuttle1.jpg
or some examples too here in google
http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=space+drawing&svnum=10&um=1&hl=tl&start=20&sa=N&ndsp=20
by the way do we have any villane or aliens, if not i found something we might use
http://surbrook.devermore.net/gallery/galleryother/alien.jpg
if we need some pace BG i think i found sojething we can use or maybe we can make this an skeleton for our BG.
http://www.chrischappellmurals.com/murals/Space/images/space1.jpg
spaceship
http://dsandler.org/entries/images/shuttle1.jpg
or some examples too here in google
http://images.google.com.ph/images?q=space+drawing&svnum=10&um=1&hl=tl&start=20&sa=N&ndsp=20
by the way do we have any villane or aliens, if not i found something we might use
http://surbrook.devermore.net/gallery/galleryother/alien.jpg
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Hmm, pic 1 seems too cartoony, pic 2 dosent work and pic 3 is unapplicable because we dont have any aliens :).
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I'm working on a few character related items. I will post them as I get them done.
Visualizing a few emotions for Selphina (using Yina's original sketch) -
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/character/emotions.jpg
Helmet design -
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/character/helmet.jpg
Color test -
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/character/selphina1.jpg
Visualizing a few emotions for Selphina (using Yina's original sketch) -
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/character/emotions.jpg
Helmet design -
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/character/helmet.jpg
Color test -
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/character/selphina1.jpg
Great, Cibo. So you want quite subdued and quiet expressions, right? Now I know what I have to practice because I normally do overdone expressions.
About the helmet: How do you put that on if the neck part is that thin? Is there some opening in the back of the helmet?
About the helmet: How do you put that on if the neck part is that thin? Is there some opening in the back of the helmet?
I made an animation character design for Selphina. I cut down on the details and changed the proportions a bit because Yina used various proportions for each view and that was a bit misleading. But I'll try to get closer to the original designs if you want.
Cibos color scheme (version 1): http://www.animachi.de/temp/cibo/Animation-Selphina.jpg
Cibos color scheme (version 1): http://www.animachi.de/temp/cibo/Animation-Selphina.jpg
Subdued emotions may fit the setting better than exaggerated ones.
Perhaps slightly less subdued than my version :)
The helmet was a preliminary sketch; I will work on the design to make it work.
As for your animation design, in my opinion, it is far too different from the original sketches.
Needs more definition in the hair, a visible part, instead of a shiny bulb.
Maybe it is just too clean and simplified.
Keeping in mind, our hand-drawn animation is not going to be terribly complicated, or at a super high framerate, but it needs to at least be attractively stylized, right?
Found a vid that is relevant to our project -
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v469279Dnacy4EF
Perhaps slightly less subdued than my version :)
The helmet was a preliminary sketch; I will work on the design to make it work.
As for your animation design, in my opinion, it is far too different from the original sketches.
Needs more definition in the hair, a visible part, instead of a shiny bulb.
Maybe it is just too clean and simplified.
Keeping in mind, our hand-drawn animation is not going to be terribly complicated, or at a super high framerate, but it needs to at least be attractively stylized, right?
Found a vid that is relevant to our project -
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v469279Dnacy4EF
Improved animation character design: http://www.animachi.de/temp/cibo/Selphina-2nd.jpg
PSD download for color tests: http://www.animachi.de/temp/cibo/Selphina-2nd.zip
I didn't add details but I made the shading and highlights better so that the design appears more detailed. I also adjusted the drawing so that it is closer to Yina's original design now.
PSD download for color tests: http://www.animachi.de/temp/cibo/Selphina-2nd.zip
I didn't add details but I made the shading and highlights better so that the design appears more detailed. I also adjusted the drawing so that it is closer to Yina's original design now.
Isn't it easier to keep the sketch for the animation simple? I guess its okay since some will be hand drawn any way. nice drawings harakiri. the 2nd version is definitely much better. as for the video, its close to what we're doing except we're doing a girl and there flashbacks. i noticed on the video that the people inside the the ship wore normal clothes and they only wear space suits when they are out of the ship. maybe we could do the same thing?
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I made a version of Harakiri's sketch that seems a little closer to the original:
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/character/Selphina-2nd_2.jpg
Without redrawing completely, that's about as close as I'll get.
Note: I left the colors the same as Harakiri's. The color scheme is not final, but I also prefer brown/dark brown hair and blue or green eyes.
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/character/Selphina-2nd_2.jpg
Without redrawing completely, that's about as close as I'll get.
Note: I left the colors the same as Harakiri's. The color scheme is not final, but I also prefer brown/dark brown hair and blue or green eyes.
UMM >.< I really dont like the character colors, did we all vote on which colors to use? Because I perfered light/dark brown with blue or green eyes. I just dont care for the red with blue eyes right now. What did Yina ever say ?
~Slaka
~Slaka
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I don't see where the altered version is closer to the original designs. The mouth and the pupils are now even more different than before. Plus the nose orifices are unnaturally low. You can see that when comparing the front elevation with the side view. All proportions need to remain on the same level because it would look strange if Selphinas nose changed its position while Selphina is turning around. Animation does not only consist of one single drawing but is a complex entity where all images have to be constant.
Please don't blame me for the colors. I chose them because you already used them in a color test. That's why I concluded that it was your preferred scheme so I respected that decision. But color is not a problem since everyone can download the PSD and alter the colors as much as they want and need to.
cibo
Note: I left the colors the same as Harakiri's. The color scheme is not final, but I also prefer brown/dark brown hair and blue or green eyes.
Please don't blame me for the colors. I chose them because you already used them in a color test. That's why I concluded that it was your preferred scheme so I respected that decision. But color is not a problem since everyone can download the PSD and alter the colors as much as they want and need to.
Two new drawings:
http://manga-no-sekai.de/cibo/clothes_2.jpg
http://manga-no-sekai.de/cibo/selphina_3.jpg
I'm gonna change her outfit again since harakiri told me that it'd be a problem to repair things with those sleeves.
http://manga-no-sekai.de/cibo/clothes_2.jpg
http://manga-no-sekai.de/cibo/selphina_3.jpg
I'm gonna change her outfit again since harakiri told me that it'd be a problem to repair things with those sleeves.
Harakiri-
Unnatural proportions? As far as Anime characters go, I thought anything goes. I lined up everything across; note that her head is tilted forward slightly, making things appear a bit more extreme.
No one is blaming anyone for the colors, I was only offering another option previously. And Yina never indicated any colors.
Anyway, nothing is final and we're just debating at this point.
Yina-
Great work. Thanks for the new sketches. More more :)
Perhaps a child sketch?
Note on the spacesuit:
1940s dive suit inspired? (baggy pantaloons, gigantic belt..)
You've got the right idea with a soft-suit, but add a few hard or shaped sections, so the suit won't inflate when pressurized. The helmet visor in particular needs to be solid.
Excellent references for spacesuit info-
https://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.gov/HAS/cirr/ss/3/6.cfm
http://www.moonhoax.lipi.at/spacesuit.htm
A few new images added to the reference folder:
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/reference/ilc_dover_suit.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/reference/marsskin_narrowweb__200x315.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/reference/CM_spacesuit02.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/ciboanime/anime/reference/startiger22.jpg
We should clarify the colors for the design so there are no arguments. and nice drawings Yina. when do I start "in-betweening"?
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