General Discussion

woah death penalty! what do you think about it, where i live doesn't have death penalty... i think we have life sentences... you stay in jail until the day you die. recently australia had a person who had drugs in singapore and was hanged just recently, but i'm not too sure about my own thoughts. if death penalty was to happen...would it make the perosn who exacuted the person with the dead penalty a murder? and would they have to face it, it s all differnt for differnt cultures and religious belief, but for me i just think it really depends.

Some people even prison can't change. Though I live in a country where death penalties aren't applied, I like the american "three strikes and out" method. IMO, it's the most effective one.

I think it should be abolished. Mainly because in the United States (where I live) you're stuck on death row for years and years. That can't be good for your mental health. It'd be different if you got the death penalty and were executed the next week or something.

you're stuck on death row for years and years. That can't be good for your mental health.

Precisely. It's all part of the punishment. And it's solely up to you to complete that row, or quit while your'e ahead. Of course, there are cases when innocents are proven guilty, but that's a different subject.

America is begining to enforce the death penalty more often now on death row prisoners. I think it should be kept. Especially for those murderers and rapists and stuff like that.

I think it should be kept.

"Fanatic and devout Christian" ... yeah, right, lol.

I feel like this: If people are willing to kill others for no reason, then they should not disagree with the death penalty.

Especially for those murderers and rapists and stuff like that.

exactly i think that the death penalty should be kept too, especially for such things that people commit as Jopuma stated. anyways i was against the death penalty at first i guess, in my world history class my teacher brought it up and asked us about how would we feel if someone murdered someone you love, would you still be against the death penalty? but i guess thats a more personal matter, but still for me i guess it depends on the degree of whatever crime that person commits that determines whether or not they should be sentenced to death.

lY-luVer is correct - until the crime is against someone you don't know and don't care about - death penalty is too severe. It's not until our most dearest become subject to such atrocities that our views on death penalty are changed.

That??s a really hard question for me. I mean I can easily see that it??s quite justifiable to kill someone if they present a danger to others. Like if the police have some violent criminal hold up in a warhorse, or, even worse, someone??s house, I think they should defiantly not hold back at all with the use of deadly force against them. But the problem with the death penalty, for me, is: How much of a danger to anyone is a person who??s locked up in jail?

Then I guess it becomes a question of vengeance (or justice, if you prefer). Myself, I??ve never been much for payback. If someone hurts me, and I have been hurt, it makes no sense to me to want to hurt them because of it. Even if them hurting me may have made me angry. Now if that person still posed a danger to me, I might well think differently, but like I said, if someone??s in prison, they don??t really pose a danger to anyone. Well.. except maybe to other inmates.

On the other hand, life sentence for dangerous criminals, that I could really get behind. A lot of murderers and rapists get released back into society. Now that, I think, I??m against.

Also, another point to consider: No one really knows what happens after you die. I mean, if you??re wanting to punish someone, or have justice for a loved one, or get vengeance for yourself, how do you know that killing them accomplishes your goal? I mean for all we know, death is like an all expenses paid trip to the paradise of your choice for all eternity? not much of a punishment if that??s it, is it?

I mean for all we know, death is like an all expenses paid trip to the paradise of your choice for all eternity? not much of a punishment if that??s it, is it?

Well that's a bit blunt, don't you think? Nobody knows what happens after death. Maybe you go to hell, or heaven, maybe it *is* a paradise, or maybe it's just as if someone turned off the lights for you, and that's it. In any case, why hold someone who's sentenced to life in a prison? He's as good as dead, anyway, except for the slight possibility that he might escape.

What gives the person the right to take another one life? If he do that he deserve death penalty. But it should depend on how you killed him, if he was attacking you or not.

hmmm i think i agree with death penalty, though not the hanging stuff i prefer the american way of just gives some poison.. i mean.. you know they just stick the needle to your hand and the next second you're dead? I forgot what do you call it ^^;; **got it, injection =P Just make the suffering stuff gone...

Well, it is unhealthy for your mental, though some of the penalty towards those prisoners are too light.. for some.. And for death penalties, i think it should be done to some people who don't regret what they're doing and keep on doing it. I think they do deserve death. As for the recent case, the australian citizen stuff, i think Spore should just catch those mafia.. if she can.. *shrugs. nearly impossible though >.>; yeah. instead of the innocent one.. I dunno.

That??s a really hard question for me. I mean I can easily see that it??s quite justifiable to kill someone if they present a danger to others. Like if the police have some violent criminal hold up in a warhorse, or, even worse, someone??s house, I think they should defiantly not hold back at all with the use of deadly force against them. But the problem with the death penalty, for me, is: How much of a danger to anyone is a person who??s locked up in jail?

Then I guess it becomes a question of vengeance (or justice, if you prefer). Myself, I??ve never been much for payback. If someone hurts me, and I have been hurt, it makes no sense to me to want to hurt them because of it. Even if them hurting me may have made me angry. Now if that person still posed a danger to me, I might well think differently, but like I said, if someone??s in prison, they don??t really pose a danger to anyone. Well.. except maybe to other inmates.

On the other hand, life sentence for dangerous criminals, that I could really get behind. A lot of murderers and rapists get released back into society. Now that, I think, I??m against.

Also, another point to consider: No one really knows what happens after you die. I mean, if you??re wanting to punish someone, or have justice for a loved one, or get vengeance for yourself, how do you know that killing them accomplishes your goal? I mean for all we know, death is like an all expenses paid trip to the paradise of your choice for all eternity? not much of a punishment if that??s it, is it?

Actually, that really depends on what you believe in. It is hard to imagine that murderers, rapists and the like would get to have paradise (if they are christians or muslims) after the stuff that they have done.

One point I like to add that the death penalty is the ultimate punishment (at least here on Earth), and thus I feel it should only be applied in crimes where the guilt of the person is confirmed.

In any case, why hold someone who's sentenced to life in a prison? He's as good as dead, anyway,

Actually, that really depends on what you believe in. It is hard to imagine that murderers, rapists and the like would get to have paradise (if they are christians or muslims) after the stuff that they have done.

We dream, we believe, we hope, we pray, we wish, theorize, and construe, we even make some very lovely movies about it, but none of us actually know what comes after death.

True, it??s comforting to believe that what you want to happen, will happen. Murder go to hell, saint, you??re heavenward bound, or what ever the case may be. It??s just that we really don??t know. It could not matter at all what we do, it could matter, just not in the ways we expect.

I mean, we can??t all be right, can we? It??s very possible none of us are. So, it kinda makes me wonder: if you??re looking to get some righteous payback on the monster who killed your only child, wouldn??t it be preferable to bet on a sure thing? It??s like chainsmoker said ??He??s as good as dead, anyway?. Why not punish him by letting him rot, if punish him you want to do. I mean, he??ll die eventually anyway, everyone does.

I'm not sure where I stand. I've kind of jumped around on this issue. I mean, say there's a murderer who is on trial. Of course the family of the victim will want to see them get sentenced. It's kind of their way of getting vengeance. But I don't think that the government has the right to determine whether or not a person should be killed. And furthermore, it doesn't get anything accomplished. Sure, that person has done something wrong, but isn't the government committing murder themselves?

When a murder is given the death penalty, he is being dealt justice, and is not murdered. The difference being that he brought his death upon his(or her) own head. When they chose to take the life of another, they forfeited their own life in that action.

A baby's life is precious because of the potential it holds, it can grow to become something wonderful. A murderer had that potential and chose to use it horribly. They must now take responsibility for the damage they've caused.

The life penalty costs the public a great deal of money since lifers live out the rest of their life living off the backs of the public. The person the murderer killed is not getting life imprisonment, they're dead. Not an equitable distribution between the living offender and the dead victim.

Justice is good. Mercy is better. But mercy is NOT required, and justice is /still/ good.

That said, the death penalty is a weighty thing. It should only be reserved for those who've been charged for more than one serious crime, or murderers. Those others acts short of murder should get some time in jail to potentially change their ways and attempt to atone, their victims are aggrieved but have the potential to get over their trauma. It's just that when the victim is murdered, there's no fixing that.

I'm not against it. If some punk killed a member of my family, I would demand a death penalty for the murderer.

Death Penalty abolished? its a joke, right? if anyone killed a person important to me, the only thing Id want was a death penalty for the person who did it. And if it isnt done, Id kill him/her myself anyways. Some people just don`t deserve to be taking space in this earth.....

Depends what did the criminal do. did he/she kill someone? and to what degree did he/she do so? There are many circumstances for this. if the cause was as serious as genocide then of course the criminal has to die, but if it was just a murder case of 1 or 2 people, long term prison.

therefore, i dont believe that death penalty should be abolished