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~Maxi-Ryu99

2 years, 6 months ago

 

I don't know what happened to the old Naruto discussion thread... so here we go again...

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 1 month ago

 

In the latest edition of the Naruto Manga:

Itachi is trying to keep Kabuto at bay from Sasuke with his SHaringan combination techniques, as he stated that if people do not value themselves they were doomed to fail.

In the next instant we are about to see flashbacks of Kabuto's past who, like many other Ninjas was an outcast...

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~elleztim

1 year, 1 month ago

 

would you look at that, Kabuto joins the group of people with a painful past. it seems to me that Naruto series is all about orphaned people who just wanted to live an ordinary life but were unfortunately removed from all those factors and now they are rampaging for their own self destructive purpose.

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 1 month ago

 

So every special one is just like Naruto when he was young, also his first instructor Iruka, though he is actually nothing special in skill, really.

Let's see how Kabuto met up with Orochimaru in the first place, it must have been during the Sannin's separation from each other, as Jiraya started to teach the future group of PAIN.

But Naruro has something that the others don't have and that is guts and the will to move on and win friends instead of despising everybody for their failures. That's the way he gains trust and wins the heart of everyone including the Bijuus.

I couldn't have explained it simpler than that, huh???!!!

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~elleztim

1 year, 1 month ago

 

how nice of Kishimoto to extract Kabuto's history and past and blend it with nice heroism and deep pain. the more we go deeper to the setting of this shinobi war, the more it becomes clear to me that every mess in the shinobi world is because of Konoha and their fear of aggression from other country. in the end, the dig their own graves while proclaiming their own sense of justice.

even if Konoha got some great Kage's with likes of the 3rd and 4th, they have deep rooted bad grass anyways..Kabuto in the end became a tool just as Itachi said they were.

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 1 month ago

 

You hit it precisely and nicely into the coffin as simple as it gets, though U must say it is Danzou's corruptive schemes which are based on underground actions and money under the tables as he is doing business behind Yondaime's and Sandaime's back.

Or what would Naruto think of his dad if he finds out that he had dirt on his finger in the corruption that Konoha conducts on both ends of the floor. Than I would rather take those elders who watch over the Hokages.

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~elleztim

1 year, 3 weeks ago

 

another chapter of a long history of Kabuto. well it seems to me that Orochimaru just blurted out all those nonsense to get Kabuto work on his side. even if the leaf is really that bad, what Orochimaru said was more like his own preference.

i hope this ends on the next chapter to see more of Itachi and Sasuke against a sage snake Kabutomaru..

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 3 weeks ago

 

Those who give in to hate and suffering, will be consumed by revenge and justifuing himself against the opposition in a neverending Rat Race,...

It takes a lot of self sacrifice and courage to forgive others, but most importantly yourself, and that's what Naruto has accomplished so far, as he gains the trust of all the Bijuus from within their hearts and souls, as they were treated just like war weapons by all the Village leaders, only to justify their own agendas. That's what the Ninja War is all about; the fear of losing your own status by being overpowered by another village, a neverending competition for power.

And the ones who suffer are the Jinjurikkis, but Naruto is gonna give everyone the will to live independently...

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~elleztim

1 year, 3 weeks ago

 

can't blame them though. like we said before @Maxi-Ryu99, we can atleast be sure that each and every character in the naruto world has his/her own agenda which is a part of this tangled web. the biggest spider of all is of course none other than Konoha. all the hate and pain that were accumulated since the sage of six path passed away happens around the leaf..

thinking about this, Naruto would seem to be the only payment for all the sins that Konoha has committed. even if we say that the previous Kage's were innocent, they still weren't able to prevent their underlings such as Danzou or Orochimaru from creating havoc within Konoha itself.. poor naruto.. in the end, every hate and every pain that consumes everybody would be taken away along with his life.. that equates to the title of the greatest Hokage, i supposed.

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 2 weeks ago

 

Naruto is the Chosen one to bring all the Bijuus together again, into the ten tailed beast and have first hand control over it, prior to the "Man in the Iron Mask". So much for the Mooneye plan, because Naruto is gonna overpower that man with the heart of a Hokage!!! The true successor of Konoha,...

... As soon as Kabuto has been taken care of by the Uchiha brothers,... they'll be going after Naruto and catch him off guard,... or maybe Itachi dies, trying to save his brother, but this time for good, and the hatred of Sasuke will go on as business as usual...

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~elleztim

1 year, 2 weeks ago

 

yeah, i'm expecting a close reincarnation of the true Sage of Six Paths, which is far from the ridiculous cosplay of the fake Madara. not only that, i wonder how the other village would react when this happens.

regarding the Bijuus, we both believed that it will unfold, but there's a slight chance that it will be first controlled by the fake Madara before Naruto can get hold of it. maybe, there's also a possibility of 2 bijuu since we're already having fake Madara.

I hate seeing Itachi dies again but oh well, atleast he can dignify himself before Sasuke. i wonder if everything will change after Itachi explains everything in his own perspective without the lies of course.

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 2 weeks ago

 

In the latest edition of Naruto:

As Kabuto was finished to tell his story he shaped familiar faces of the Sound clan members with his Edo Tensei snake arts, with the intentions to finish the last Uchiha brothers off and take away their tremendous powers,...

... with a secret plan in mind, Itachi told Sasuke to "genjutsu-LOOK in his eyes" to play some trick on Kabuto who seemingly ripped of Itachi's body into shredded halves??????

What will actually happen to the two Uchiha brothers when they "Genjutsu-look into each other's eyes",.... that makes me curious!!!!!!

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~elleztim

1 year, 2 weeks ago

 

it's a cliche moment-- it all seems that Kautomaru got the upper hand though, it's too early. agaisnt the Uchiha brothers, especially Itachi, there's no telling where this will end up to. now, more than a battle of jutsu's, it feels like Itachi and Kabutomaru were simply fighting in terms of their philosophy in life. Kabuto who gives the world for the sake of a name and Itachi who threw so easily his name for the sake of his goal..

i do wonder the difference between Izanagi and Itachi's "Izanami".. it's more like one his time-reliant jutsu..

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 2 weeks ago

 

But I've never seen two Uchihas "Genjutsu-stare into their own eyes"..., it must be a newly revolutionary innovated Genjutsu technique in order to let the enemy, in this case Kabuto, see what he wants him to see, and I'm sure that both of them will appear from out of nowhere where Kabuto expect them the least,... If I may make a bold assumption, Kabuto may just think that Sasuke sees Itachi killed of by him and that he will attack Kabuto with blind rage out of vengeance, but with this possible new revolutionary Genjutsu Sharingan technique that only Uchiha specialists know, Kabuto may have outplayed his last trump,...

Waaaaahhhh, that is one of the most exciting outcomes, that I'm the most curious about, in the upcoming chapter, please let it happen already!!!!

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~elleztim

1 year, 2 weeks ago

 

it was a counter genjutsu executed by Itachi since Kabutomaru was able to capture the uchiha brothers using sound-genjutsu which Kabutomaru claims to be effective against Susanoo. it's like "fight fire with fire" and Itachi was right. on the other hand, we all know Sasuke despite having that terrifying chakra like Madara, is weak-minded all in all hence it would be a good choice for Kabutomaru to take out itachi first.

however, the mystery of Izanami, the one that decides destiny is the crucial part of this excitement. hopefully, we get to see its effect on the next chapter.

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 1 week ago

 

In the latest edition of the Naruto Manga:

The grueling battle between the last of the Uchiha brothers and Kabuto reaches its climax, as seen in the previous chapter, on advice of his older brother Itachi, Sasuke played along and Genjutsu-stared at Itachi's eyes, in order for him to call some distraction Jutsu in order to trick Kabuto. Upon revealing to Sasuke that he will use another ancient, forbidden technique of the Uchiha Clan upon activating the technique called Izanagi, Kabuto, overconfident as he seems,claims that Genjutsu won't affect him when he shut down his vision. Without noticing that some creeps of small shadows crumbled up his legs, Kabuto suddenly plunged into Itachi, to be tricked, once,... then twice, and then....

.... Itachi in the end just stood in front of Kabuto firmly grasping his head....

... in other words, it must have been a forbidden Uchiha Genjutsu technique that affects ALL and EVERY sense of the Human body....

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~elleztim

1 year, 1 week ago

 

sacrificing his left eye to use a more powerful forbidden jutsu of the Uchiha, that's Itachi for you. Izanami really made a fool out of Kabutomaru. i was thinking that it would be the same as Izanagi as a time-controlling jutsu like Itachi's tsukiyomi but i never expected it to be this horrible..

it reminds of Kurama's technique against Toguro's brother in Yu Yu Hakusho where he used a plants that inhibit an endless illusion to it's victim.. now we'll see if this can really stop the Impure World jutsu..

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 6 days ago

 

Well let's suppose that's it for Kabuto, will Sasuke reconsider his decision to crush Konoha, or will Itachi talk some senses into his hot blooded younger brother? Or will they both come to an agreement,, "laugh their asses about Naruto's far too trusting stupidity in having faith in the two and make a pact together to take revenge on Naruto, the Kage's, Kakashi and co...??? As far as Itachi has gained Naruto's trust, it can work against Naruto, as we all know, and in the second he would notice,... it would be to late and he'd be F(**&$%%ED, because Uchiha's have the power to control those BEASTS all together and practically take over the world.... and once Naruto gained the trust in all of them,... that'd be a perfect opportunity for the last of the Uchiha to act now and get their revenge on Sarutobi, Tsunade, Naruto, Kakashi and co....

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~elleztim

1 year, 5 days ago

 

now that's a million dollar question you had there.. what will poor little Sasuke do now.. of course there's this conversation first with Itachi unveiling everything he had done. i presume that what Sasuke will do after hearing everything would predict the outcome of this war and the story ending itself.

even if the Uchiha brothers turn heads, i don't think it would suffice since Itachi already lost one eye because of Izanami. i also wonder if they can both combine Izanagi and Izanami at the cost of losing both eyes and if the Rinnegan had jutsu like that.

lastly, if Kabutomaru's like that right now, wouldn't that mean the the Impure World resurrection jutsu would be relinquish and therefore Itachi would again escape Sasuke's inquiry?

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 19 hours ago

 

Well, how should I describe the latest chapter, without using complicated terms,.... hm well...

Okay,... to make it short and precise, Itachi explains to his younger brother Sasuke about what it really means to use the legendary forbidden Genjutsu technique Izanami to reduce and prevent Izanagi. Izanagi, as we all remember was a dangerous Uchiha technique that was used to try to determine one's one fate at one's own selfish will at the cost of other people's life. Izanami was invented to prevent Izanagi, plain and simple...

"But wait", Sasuke interferes ,"Itachi you are prefect.." And of course Sasuke defers to Sasuke words, and puts it into comparative perspective of Kabuto's attitude, that simple by trying to steal, imitate and use other people techniques as if he were better than Orochimaru, he has completely forgotten to be himself, to ACCEPT himself and try to be his own man, which allowed Izanami, which creates some sensic aura to be driven into the opponent's body senses in order to be caught by Izanami, even with the vision closed...

Anyhow, Itachi is gonna end this Edo tensei nightmare and will leave his brother with tons of questions still unanswered....

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~elleztim

1 year, 7 hours ago

 

it looks like Izanami is some sort of safety device for the Uchiha's to prevent corruption within. it was really complicated technique because as Itachi explained, it doesn't need any eye-contact which is very unusual for the sharingan. it did looked like Itachi is helping Kabuto out.. it seems like Itachi had some regrets dying.

The best of Uchiha technique isn't as deadly as i thought it to be. it also gives the impression that the Uchiha is also worried about their people being corrupt. i think Izanami is the perfect embodiment of Itachi's way of living..

I now wonder how will Sasuke move on after all this. he was always thinking about his clan and yet the ideals of his clan wasn't exactly the same as Madara's. now i got the hint why the Uchiha chosen Hashirama to be the first hokage.

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~Maxi-Ryu99

1 year, 5 hours ago

 

You hit the nail right in the coffin, I couldn't have explained it any better. The only question will be, will Sasuke proceed with his agenda to destroy Naruto and Konoha, or will Itachi tell him "It's up to you, you're a man now, you decide!!!!" Because the way things went, it appeared that Itachi "BEAT" some senses into his brother, and that Sasuke was actually willing to play along with his older brother, indicates that he MIGHT change his mind after witnissing Itachi's real purposes bit by bit...

I mean, if Sasuke hadn't encountered Itachi ones again, like now, he would have gone on a rampage all along... What's your take on Sasuke's future intentions?

Will it be continueing vengeance or joining Naruto???

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~elleztim

11 months, 4 weeks ago

 

honestly, i wanted to the old cold and vicious Sasuke who'd stop at nothing to reach his goal. he was already presented that way when he told Naruto he'd kill him with the rest of the leaf. then suddenly, BOOM! Itachi hit the U-turn on Sasuke.

you know what i thought after all this, Sasuke would boast to Itachi saying "Sorry brother, but that's your life. I'd live differently starting with the annihilation of the leaf with the flames of the last living Uchiha".. that would be the perfect villain against Naruto to wrap it all.

Now i'm entirely afraid that Sasuke would be good again and follow his lovable brother in the path of self sacrifice in the name of peace.. I'd imagine that Sasuke, if only he hadn't met Itachi like this that he'd be the one facing the entire joint-shinobi forces..

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~Maxi-Ryu99

11 months, 4 weeks ago

 

Or think about this... Itachi suddenly really turns the tables, becomes a real ass, and is after Sasuke's newly acquired Sharingan eyes that Madara placed on him, to enrich himself with a comeback to be the one to rule the Shinobi World? And what that would mean, is that everything he just said to his brother was just a diversion to gain his trust only in order to fool him again. Itachi is really good at toying with his opponents and the people who trust him, he's a former Akatsuki outlaw for a reason.

I mean Naruto is really easy to fool.

Who knows... Just my sense of humor is telling me...

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~elleztim

11 months, 4 weeks ago

 

well to gauge both Madara (fake and the real one) and Itachi, i'd say Itachi is more capable of turning the tables to his own suit. i mean, for whatever purpose he has, Itachi seems to succeed with his goal all the time, there isn't a single moment where Itachi failed with his objectives.. Madara failed atmost 2 times against 2 of the best Kage of Konoha..

if you wanted it to be just the way you assumed of Itachi's greater task of taking care of the shinobi world with Sasuke's EMS, i don't see any difficulty for Itachi to do so.

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~Maxi-Ryu99

11 months, 4 weeks ago

 

With that said, if it things go according to my imagination, Konoha can prepare themselves for a greater threat than Kabuto's Edo Tensei, Uchiha Madara, the Mooneye plan, the Ten tailed beast, since Naruto has won the hearts of all 9 beasts. The greatest threat would be the NEW GENERATION OF THE LAST OF THE UCHIHA REVENGERS, with Itachi and Sasuke on top, either one of them,... will give Naruto more growing pains psychological because, especially Itachi would have betrayed him so badly...

... the battle between Naruto and the Man in the Iron Mask is still going on, with the combined power of the 9 beasts, how will it turn out???

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~elleztim

11 months, 3 weeks ago

 

and that's not off the limit as well. given that the entire conflict started all with rotten shinobi of the leaf.. to expand, the leaf itself was born from 2 incoherent clan (Senju and Uchiha).. in my opinion, peace was obtained by the first hokage only because the Uchiha sacrificed their well being.

what you have said is only befitting, for many years, Uchiha clan remained silent under the leadership of Hokage taken from the Senju clan until their entire clan was swept away. Konoha was supposed to be part Senju and part Uchiha but now, Uchiha was completely disregarded. i guess seeing that way, Konoha was meant to be destroyed by the Uchiha, if not by Madara, then by two of the leaf's finest shinobi - Itachi & Sasuke.

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~Maxi-Ryu99

11 months, 3 weeks ago

 

Well it seems like to take out Or convince Kabuto to undo Edo Tensei curse takes some time as at the same time Sasuke rebell yells at his brother yet again, by practically leaving him, as an end to Edo Tensei would also mean Itachi's demise into hell again,...

... So why did the two of us worry about Sasuke's resolve to crush Konoha into pieces, he'll do it anyway as soon as Itachi departs as he is about to leave his younger brother again with a lot of questions unanswered, and told him its up to him, what he wants to do, since he can't stop Sasuke anyway from his hatred.

In the mean time the Kages have all their hands full to stop the barrage of Uchiha Madara, the strongest and mightiest of all Edo Tensei warriors. Tsunade is almost done, even in her Desperation mode, and Madara is being careful about The old fox veteran Tsuchikage,... Each one of them will release their final desperation attacks as I fear it won't be enough. And IMO one or two of the Kage will actually die...

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~elleztim

11 months, 3 weeks ago

 

this latest chapter really answered our speculation directly to our face.. nice one Kubo.. so it seems like Naruto will be the one saving Sasuke. and Itachi looks satisfied and proud being a shinobi of the leaf.. Itachi is really loyal to Konoha than his own Uchiha clan.

hehehe..@Maxi-Ryu99: well, that was because i was thinking Itachi would explain everything and persuade Sasuke to be a good guy again.. that's a big relief knowing he'd still wanted Naruto to do the job of changing Sasuke's heart.. i bet he wanted to see both of them fight it out..

well, in regards to the Kage VS Madara-- all i can say is ......WOW!!!! PERFECT SUSANO..

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~Maxi-Ryu99

11 months, 3 weeks ago

 

Some of the Kages will definitely die. someone always has to die. So if it's Tsunade, who'd be the next Hokage? Kakashi, or will it directly be Naruto. The deceased 3rd Hokage became Hokage at a young age as well, so why not Naruto,... but on the other, it'd be boring to appoint Naruto as a Hokage, since his motivation won't be the same as soon as he hears it. That wouldn't be the way he would wanna be appointed Hokage,...

... so forget that part that I mentioned earlier at the beginning of this post, and look forward to Naruto vs. the "Man in the Iron Mask",... BTW what will happen to him if Madara's original body will disappear from the real world, upon Itachi's Edo Tensei curse breaker???

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~elleztim

11 months, 3 weeks ago

 

what? i was thinking the same thing too. Tsunade seems to be at the worst state right now. she may look fine but that forbidden jutsu will be taking its toll sooner and she'll have to pay more than she can compensate for. looking at that situation, with all the confusion coming along the war, Kakashi is the best candidate for Hokage and since Danzou not there anymore, it's now concrete.

with the situation right now, i'd say the Naruto VS Sasuke fight will come first before Masked Madara. it's a showdown of fate for these two young genins since both of them didn't advance to being chunin and yet both had become much stronger than Kage's.

lastly, i'd hate to see it but the Perfect Susanoo might not last long since you reminded me that Itachi might be successful in undoing the edo-tensei. although, the real Madara created the edo-tensei in the first place so there must be something he can do to escape this one out and continue ravaging the 5 Kages.

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