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@elleztim I think that is the reason why I think a genius like Urahara has reached another stepping stone level to create an even more powerful Hogyouku device to possibly take over the galaxy, lol!!!! I mean why not? If he has any intention to control the Ultimate Weapon, why expose yourself now, if Ichigo can still grow, and I think he will when facing with the vaunted Vandenreich clan with another epic struggle ahead with his possibly relative and mom's original bloodline.

A twist in trust is also possible when my theory of Ichgo's possible Vandenreich bloodline connection proves to be true and he would actually turn against Rukia and the other Shinigami IF one of the Shinigami was the one who has murdered his true family and his mom. Don't forget about Aizen's Bankai ability at this point, as it looked like Grand Fisher killed his mom,... Possibly.

Well said, my friend, as I arrived from Bangkok to Udon Thani this evening and spent time with my girl friend...

First of all, because of the Tsunami and earthquake incident in Southeast Asia regions in Indonesia, India, even Thailand in BKK (a little bit, according to one of my friends who posted that on Facebook), and maybe possibly in the Phillipines as I scrapped the news,... @elleztim: Are you and your family alright? Did something happen in your country? I was starting to worry, man...

Now all that matters to me now is the next upcoming chapter, because after that Germanistic Nazi-style Vandenreich warrior barbecued Hallibel's loyal trio into shreds, he's up against the powerhouse Ichigo who just happened to drop in along with Nell...

Unlike Ivan DRAGO, I guess this guy will give Ichigo a hell of a fight, more than Kuugo ever dreamt off, for sure. This cold-hearted NAZI looks really mean down his heart, not from the outside, but really deep within his heart, which he hides behind his sunglasses. We'll see whether he can give Ichigo a real challenge in a way that he goes insane, and I mean real insane, as I am waiting anxiously for Ichigo's highest level ever since he unleashed the "Final Getsuga Tenshou" against Aizen... Maybe that NAZI guy can bring out Ichigo's best...

What do you think, guys...?????

Now that we are the fantastic 4 in our round table discussion:

We have @elleztim The wise and calm one with a cool head and the general knowledge about the Bleach world and a good sense for wise words,...

Secondly we have @Muraki3777, the kind-hearted one with good response negotiation skills in our round table discussion

Then we have @neverlanq, our Quincy expert who came from out of nowhere...

and finally, myself @Maxi-Ryu99, the passionate Ichigo and Tensa Zangetsu-fanatic, who is so anxious to see Ichigo's evolution and family background in each and every step from day one. Sometimes I'm so anxious about the Kurosaki bloodline, that I even forget some past events or Characters' names., motives and even their group categories..

Ichigo is a phenomenon, and his raw natural energy level is almost too unreal ever since he became a Shinigami Substitute...

... let's make a temporary stop here and think about Karin for a second... I think it'll soon be time for her to arise from the Kurosaki ranks and become possibly the next Substitute Shinigami right after her brother, because, IF those Vandenreich warriors and their leader are so anxious to lure Ichigo Kurosaki, they'd soon enough get the idea to go after his family first,...

Well,... Isn't it obvious that Ichigo has been the chosen one to be the difference maker from the day he was baptized by Rukia as he received his first ever unleashed true Shinigami powers, upon his inborn abilities to see ghost before that?

I'll summarize later into detail, but in short his development in every category Shinigami or Hollow is just unreal. I mean that something that the most mere mortals or low class Shinigami could have ever dreamed of achieving. I think Ichigo's darkest hours were his instant zero second defeat vs Byakuya and Renji, but most important of all the fight against Ulquiorra Cifer, when his acquired Vizard powers was simply a joke until his Hybrid hollow form took over in order to protect Ichigo. You can count hell Arc on it as well as it resembled some sort of raw Fullbring powers.

The latest suffer came when Ginjou Kuugo took away his power until Rukia awakened it again as he was not going to be denied anymore.

But with that said Ichigo will have the next toughest challenge ahead of him with the Hitler style Vandenreich general... Let's see how much more unreal Ichigo can become or fall into a ditch again... His next opponent looks mean behind his sun glasses.

That's why Ishida stayed behind, so simple as that. He didn't want to get dragged in into further trouble... for now, and going up against his own ancestors with his current ability would be suicide, and especially, when the Vandenreich Brigade find out that he has been working together with his worst enemy, Ichigo Kurosaki, a Substitute Shinigami...

.... OR.... think about this, Ishida and his dad could have been spies for the Vandenreich warriors all along ever since day one Ichigo met Ishida, which is why the Vandenreich warriors have attained such a precise timing for their agenda to happen right after Ichigo's strenuous trials.

And so could Urahara who is so smart enough to create another Hogyouku based on the events that are about to happen in the upcoming war of the Titans...

That's exactly my thought. How could Ivan DRAGO just know about Ichigo's whereabouts just like that? And I began to become his greatest fan until he was obliterated by the Vandenreich leader into oblivion.

Somehow the Vandenreich warriors treat the Arrancar like a piece of crap in their agenda, as they abuse them at will, almost like as if they kind of are partially responsible for Soul Society's triumph over them.

I also wonder whether Nel will ever go berserk again, I mean back to her adult true form that we witnessed as she tried to protect Ichigo from Nhoitora at that time.

Lastly aside, Grand Fisher returning or revealing that he was forced by anyone responsible for Masaki's death.

Oooooohhhhhh, waiiiiiit a minute, now that u mention it bro,.... Why did I forget about the older look of Zangetsu, I mean the very first time that they met, man, ... Exactly!!!!!! He looks almost exactly like the veteran version of Tensa Zangetsu, I think he IS Tensa Zangetsu in his original state.

Woooowww, you're the man @elleztim... You're the man of the week, bro.

And just as Mayuri and Yama-gi had a private conversation behind closed doors, he also mentioned Uryuu Ishida in the first steps of an upcoming revolution, "in connection with the Vandenreich leader. ... Just as I expected, Ishida might have been involved from the earlier years as a start by his possible "Grand Fisher,... Hehe, just kidding....

I meant to say that Ishida's infiltration into the early stealth preparations might have been set up by his possible grand master the Vandenreich leader, to set things into motion really unnoticed and stealth alike around the evolving environment to grow Ichigo into a formidable versatile warrior, an ultimate weapon or chosen one to take care of what was once the Vandenreich leaders' weapon; Tensa Zangetsu!!!!

As the Vandenreich leader and his clan observed from afar as Ichigo finally mastered Tensa Zangetsu and his Final Getsuga Tenshou and with Kuugo as his final test after regaining his Powers, that is where the clan decided to take action...

BTW Tensa Zangetsu never looked happy, so it seemed when Ichigo mentioned Soul Society and especially his other half rebelled against that organization, as it was evident in Ichigo's second encounter with Byakuya. Zangetsu seems to hate Soul Society from the bottom of his heart and I think he may have connections with Masaki who could have been a Vandenreich warrior as well.

With the mentioned and edited above that Vandenreich leader is looking to get his soul back that was once being taken away by his worst enemy in Yama-Gi thanks to the "unintended help of the valiant Ichigo Kurosaki." This guy might be Ichigo's grandpa after all as soon as he gets back his Soul which was purified with Ichigo using the "Final Getsuga Tenshou".

Talk about my next evaluation later.

Well it could be that during the past grueling battle between Captain Commander Yama-Gi and the Vandenreich clan leader, Ichigo's parents and Urahara were somehow involved, maybe right after Ichigo was born. And this incident included a compromisal pact upon either one admitting defeat with both combatants deeply wounded, ... Nobody can say for sure, because there are so many factors involved:

Firstly, as @Muraki3777 mentioned, assuming that The Vandenreich leader is too wild to be neither Shinigami or Quincy, if Tensa Zangetsu was his originally his or if he's the True form or at least the legitimate brother of Tensa Zangetsu, I think he really was a blood relative of Ichigo, assuming upon that Zangetsu was destined to protect him since birth.

The grueling battle between Yama-Gi and Vandenreich leader could have involved Ichigo's mom severely that they had somehow no choice but to split and bestow their powers onto Ichigo when he was still a child, assuming that Masaki was a Vandenreich warrior and betrayed her clan upon falling in love with Isshin Kurosaki and maybe asking Yana-Gi to protect both of them. And as I know Yama-Gi's old fashioned pride, he accepted unwillingly with a little sense of mercy upon Ichigo's birth. Maybe that's why after all those years he saw Ichigo as a nuisance the first time he saw him growing up as the Shinigami that he was not supposed to be.

The relationship between Soul Society and the other realms must have been so bad that it affected everybody especially Ichigo's family.

So all I'm saying is that especially Yama-Gi knows something about Ichigo that Ichigo would have never dreamt of, and once he knows about that secret from Yama-Gi... Who knows how berserk Ichigo will go...

Well I think they hid themselves somewhere where the rest of the battling and conflicting parties can't identify them, lol.

I mean Soul Society and the Arrancar army pack were too busy handling Ichigo, their disputes and stuff like that through all the years that it was easy for the Vandenreich clan to regroup and go under siege.

Up until today it seemingly worked out in their favor. And Ichigo's revolution contributed a lot to attract both Soul Society and Arrancar armies and Vizards away from the carefully planned Vandenreich plot. Ichigo's legendary battles have reached the far reaches of the galaxy and they use that momentum where Soul Society is the most vulnerable now, does it make sense?

Well, in a sense then, it can be assumed that Ishida could have been a spy all along, if Kirge Opie verified his existence and that his Heiliger Pfeil (Holy Arrow) isn't as strong as Ishida's...

... Now Kirge Opie has changed into a mysterious evolution form...

For your information, I AM from Germany so I can understand the German terms that they talk about, as well as the spelling:

It's Sternenritter, not Schternritter @neverlanq,... @elleztim: in correct German grammar it must be "vollständiger Stil", I think Kubo should hire me for correcting the German definitions and grammar, haha...

So there you have it, and with that being said, let's make a NEW proposal:

so how do you think about the possibility, that Urahara was a nasty spy between Soul Society, the Arrancar AND the Quincys and Vandenreich clan, with the intention to betray Genryu-sama and the Shinigami Squad of Soul Society,... and also with the possibility that he secretly formed an alliance with Ishida and his family to work together with him to kill several birds with one stone....

... and with Urahara gaining Ichigo's trust, and Ishida left behind,... if Urahara and Ishida really planned a plot,... Ichigo's sisters might be in real trouble now, when big brother is not around....

@Muraki3777: Well, yes either Ishida was under a seal, or he would have been a really good actor to delude Ichigo's desperate drive to protect his beloved ones...