aaronvps

*looks at his wife in her Rainbow Brite pajamas*

Well . . . *ahem* . . . My wife was 23 when we got married, and I was 27. She was fighting with every ounce of her being to hold off her rabid grandmother. Her grandmother was full of distress when Stella did not have a marriage proposal by the time she was 18, because it's a well known fact in Japan that a woman gets harder to control as she gets older, so men are not as interested in older women.
*BAH!* I can't even stand being in the same room with a teenager when they are in a bad mood. I could not imagine being married to one.
Further to the waiting until you are married thing, I have yet another rule in my house. We have to be married for five years before we can have a child. Stella wants to have three children (sisters and a boy "for me"), and wants to have a baby right now if I would relent. I think we should get to know each other *even better* before we commit to bringing a tiny, helpless human into our home. It's just a little insurance policy for our unborn nugget . . . making sure that he/she does not enter a home in which his/her parents are not raging lunatics with a grudge or problems with authority. That would mean that Stella would be 28 and I would be 32 at the time our first child is born (or even older). That would be awesome.
I never even thought about marriage before I was 25. Marriage is a mixture of a business arrangement, a promise of fidelity, and a commitment to not kill each other. If the person you are going to get married to is not a sound business partner, virtuous beyond your reproach, and totally adverse to killing you for any reason . . . reconsider. There's always "blissful co-habitation"!

Regards, Aaron

Dualistico

Float my bacteria! Consume everything!

muad-dib1870

1. for those who believe in 'nothing' that we'll just rot in the ground, that we have no soul...etc
WHY do you you believe that? how can you? HOW can you say you dont believe in God? if you were to be right then are you saying we're nothing but animals? cause thats what your saying. lemme guess we "evolved" from monkeys right? if we "evolved" from monkeys then why are monkeys still around? why arnt they people?

kieselgurgh

Kirjavaa

Should I get out the diagrams?

Please take them out >_<

whitepulse

Kirjavaa

So basically because SOME people believe in God, if you're gay and the person you decided to spend your life with dies, then everything that the two of your worked together to have...a home, car, whatever, all of it gets left to the family instead of you.

Lena is right, I hope you never breed.

What? That doesn't make any sense. They can just leave it in their will when they decide that they want to spend the rest of their life together. It's as simple as that.

There. Problem solved.

whitepulse

Lapis

whitepulse

Homosexuals should not marry.

They can love each other, of course. And they can spend their lives together if they so chose, but they cannot marry. Marriage is a legally binding ceremony between a man and a woman. And that's it.

Homosexuals can just not have a legally binding relationship.

I think the key words in this phrase are 'legally binding'. I don't understand why marriage is nothing more than legal bondage here. It's between people who love each other. If you're saying that people who are gay can still love each other and spend their lives together, and that's the definiteion of marriage, then by saying that you're contradicting yourself in my view.

I think before we go any further, someone needs to find the true concept of marriage. THEN we can discuss and judge how people go about or who does it.

Technically that is not what marriage is. Marriage is the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc. Marriage is man and woman. Husband and wife. So, I didn't contradict myself.

But that is what homosexual couples wants. They want the legally binding part. To make decisions for each other. To live for one another because that is what marriage is.

But this is where God comes in. I am not Catholic. I do not believe in God. I'm basically agnostic. But in this world there are millions of people who believe God /does indeed/ exist. You just can't ignore that. There is something there that makes people believe God exists.

And following into that virtually my whole family is Catholic. I was brought up Catholic but I moved away from it as I got older. Now I don't believe in it at all, but that's another story.

Anyway, in going with this up-bringing I don't believe in same-sex marriage. That isn't the defenition of marriage. Marriage is a man and a woman as defined by God himself (who may or may not exist ><). That is it . Period.

Some people try to bring other parts in the Bible to defend same-sex marriage. God forgive everyone, God loves us all, God want's us to be happy.

No. It doesn't work that way. God created a woman for man. That is how god works.

Of course, our society's sense of marriage today is so entirely skewed it doesn't even matter anymore. People, now, get married just for the sake of getting married. In truth I find this more annoying than same-sex marriages.

All I'm saying is that it was predestined from basically the beginning of time for it to be a man and a woman. That's the way it was. That's the way it should. END. OF. STORY.

kieselgurgh

@ Kirjaava, The name of the great master piece is The Divine Comedy, not Dante's Inferno.

I suppose I agree with babylemon, after you die, you die, that's all.

bright2

OK.... WTF