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After months of work, chanelqueen17 has created a gorgeous scene of Alice and Oz from Pandora Hearts, using scans that didn't even feature both characters together. Even after spending so much time on matching the details of the characters to their new looks, chanelqueen17 didn't stop there and went all out on the background too! This wallpaper definitely needs to be seen!
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~Espada
11 seconds ago
O.O her mom is also a twin and it skip her as well...
~kittylove
25 seconds ago
Oh thats awesome espada!
~Mysticmom2
51 seconds ago
O.o
~Espada
1 minute ago
My father is a twin and it skip my gen... So I have a chance that my future wife might had twin...
~kittylove
4 minutes ago
Whats that espada?
~Mysticmom2
4 minutes ago
What did you remember Espada?
~Espada
4 minutes ago
Theres a proud mom
~Mysticmom2
5 minutes ago
They are cute!
~kittylove
7 minutes ago
Oh , well still sounds cute 
~Espada
7 minutes ago
Ah man... I just remember something..
Logging problem
5 months 2 weeks ago
"Well, last night, i tried to help her clear her cookies for firefox, cache, and browsing history, we also tried the flush thing, but she couldn't access command prompt, i think there's a problem about the OS itself, so am still trying to figure where the problem comes, cause she says she can log properly on the site at work, but at home she doesn't get to log, and is redirected to the page I mentioned above, but she can still surf on the site when not logged"View
Logging problem
5 months 2 weeks ago
"I'll try to help her out, even if i forgot how to do the flush through command lines, but i'll try to help with the 1st steps, deleting cookies manually and resetting her net connection, thanks again for helping, i'll post a note if the problem is solved!"View
Logging problem
5 months 2 weeks ago
"Her username is Katelyn"View
Logging problem
5 months 2 weeks ago
"I have a friend on Ap who's unable to access her profile, she can open the main page, and tried both on mozilla and IE, but when she logs she's always redirected to this page http://www.animepaper.net/status/?login i did advise her to clean her cache and cookies, but no good, can someone give any advise about this matter? thanks in advance"View
Cultural views on the subject of nudity
5 months 4 weeks ago
"hmmm, to that point, i'd like to note, when there are movies with people killing each other, the values retained mainly from those movies are usually what? honestly? that we must fight to defend people we care for... that sometimes circumstances leads to where one life can save everyone else ... and so on, but to those ero movies mentioned, what values are retained? that s** is good ... that it's good to experience it as much as you want with as much people you want, it's alright to jump on everyone, that's why those movies aren't shown to child, i don't agree to your logic, there's a real reason behind the age someone can understand that nudity isn't something that should be taken lightly, cause then, if everyone was watching those porn movies mentioned above everyday, everyone would be rappers or girls wearing 5cm thin skirt and top, am not exaggerating, since it's already reaching that line
to reply to the main topic, in art, nudity is sometime shown, for the simple reason, that objects or like us living creatures, might be shown into lets say an aspect, where the beauty or whatever isn't seen at 1st sight, but needs to be seen through another's eye, but next to that, there's nothing beautiful if you were to see everyone walking nude on the street, of course it's shocking, cause this is call to have no respect to the other people around, in the end, we'd just be acting as animals around every corners
and something kinda upsets me, you say that the porn industries makes more profit than the normal movie industry, so i'd like to ask you, since the smoking industry makes more profit than any healthy products around, does it make a sense that we all start smoking or aknowledge that there's no bad in it at all?
we are just humans, we tend to be driven to do what satisfy us only now and not what would bring a concrete tomorrow, this is why nudity is something that shouldn't be aknowledge the way you'd like to, and if it could, there would be no need for religion, humans still need morals and everything that comes with, that's why we can't live in a world where you would not find it odd that nudity is given so much holds about! "
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Next step of evolution
6 months 3 days ago
"@ Mimilu, can't argue, you're perfectly right, and sorry for the confusion about the topic, guess i did express myself in a rush, didn't want the though to run out with the many that goes around my mind XD, but back to here, i know we can't guess such things, but it isn't bad to try to foresee or imagine how it could be, people before us imagined a world where cars would be flying, or some did speculate about us developing eeerh supernatural powers, i know these two are different, one about evolution of the human body, and one about the next step in age, sorry everyone if i mixed these, still i don't mind hearing both@blackmokona, lol, i'd like to be there to see if it's true "we won't last for another more 1000 years" wonders how the world will look, in 1000 years ahead from now
@rikatsu "everything is possible, except the impossible" lol, am just wondering something, all what we've been doing, humans, from the beginning, is moving the limit line, limit line drew by nature, obviously, so however far we push it, there'll still be a limit, like there are pictures that can last for 200 years, but still, they do last, or mountains that stands still for 1000 years, but the shape evolves, so it makes me wonder, it's possible to move the limit line, but not beyond the impossible, the question now is, where lies the "impossible"
@Izzy4, you know, i did try to wonder once, if an AI is possible, and, well, i can't say it's impossible, but, an AI, from my knowledge, creating an AI is like, trying to assemble a puzzle that has an undetermined pieces, if you see what i mean, the pieces keeps increasing, and you never do get what the image should be even after assembling one thousands of them, so about us becoming cyborgs, or reducing machine to nano level, it demands, a huge, huge gap of centuries, i believe, for us, to reach such level, but it would be nice if that could come true, that would mean, another step was reached, and i mean "ANOTHER STEP" nothing like a new cellular with touch screen or something, and i do totally agree with your point about what us humans have been doing all the time, sad, but true, we just shape things around instead of get ... wait, on a social aspects, people do adjust themselves instead of changing what's around them ... look, girls, do wear indecent clothes, guys do turn into soccer lovers and chicks and such, they do follow the trend, in order to follow, the general pattern, it's weird isn't it? humans do actually adapt itself to what's around it when it comes to social terms and all, but not on the ground you mentioned, something to think about ..."
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Next step of evolution
6 months 5 days ago
"Not bad, hmm 4th world war, makes me wonder it will between who and whoView
Newlywed Wife Sells Husband’s PS3 for Fun
6 months 5 days ago
"[quote=]Hmm thats 600$ GONE just for fun[/quote] XD almost 2 months pay, excluding the games, >_____<"View
Newlywed Wife Sells Husband’s PS3 for Fun
6 months 5 days ago
"don't you think it's a bit eeerh, straight of you to judge who got issues in life? i mean, the fact that one does have other likes in life, and that one has a ps3 as passion in his life doesn't mean he got an issue in life, try to think, you spend 10 years with a girl, married, got a kid, and you learn that the last 7 years, she's been dating another guy everytime you were going to work, or had another kid behind your back, forget about the betrayal, and think a little bit, of the much resources, trust, time, you invested in that woman, and learn a thing like that after? so same here, that guy, invested his money, time, and his being, actually in that ps3, but i guess you can't understand something like that unless you actually do lose something you hold on to more than anything in life
and i say again, it's not an issue, everyone got their likes in life!"
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Newlywed Wife Sells Husband’s PS3 for Fun
6 months 5 days ago
"stealing a cent from a dollar is steal stealing, leaving someone half dead, or killing him until he stops breathing is still a murder, no matter the way you turn it around, i believe, betrayal is betrayal, it's not a "just" console, if it was "just" a console as you claim she would have "just" not mind it that much instead of selling it behind the back of his husband"
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Do you hold forgiveness as an important virtue?
6 months 5 days ago
"Tolerate and forgive are two different things to me, i can tolerate but never forgive(it stands to me only)
forgiving makes me feel
- like am lying to myself
- like pretending that it didn't happen
- like no time was wasted
in the end, forgiving is just the same as lying to myself, i know errors can happen, and for these i won't mind someone, but if someone on purpose did cheat on you, example, your girlfriend (just an example) did cheat on you, and ask for forgiveness, saying it was an accident (here am going to quote someone's wise words) it was an accident when she took of her clothes and accidently went in bed with another guy? so you are going to do as if nothing happened? someone who can do that, i believe, is not someone who got much virtue, but rather, a too big heart, and not enough mind, or maybe it's me who got too much mind and not enough heart, but in any case, just stating my view, someone who tried to save your life and accidentally did shoot you can be forgiven, it doesn't even need to be forgiven since it was an accident, at least it had a good intent, but someone who did intentionally shoot at you, when that person clearly knows that you're his her friend, it doesn't requires virtue to forgive such an act, but insanity, kinda extreme but that's what i believe, and you might be right, that the ability to forgive, might determine the fitness, moral, and much more of someone's personality, but i'd rather be sick for my whole life, than forgiving people who can't hold themselves from doing anything silly, cause i'd like to add
people nowadays, enjoy doing mistakes, cause, after all, we are friends, you're going to forgive me, no matter what i do right? even if i did the most monstrous thing to you, and came with "am deeply and sincerely sorry" how can you not forgive me? this is the kind of world we are living lately, i don't say everyone is like that, the majority is, so, why be the one to forgive and not do any mistakes, while others keep doing them and ask for forgiveness? so the only way i can have some form of moral satisfaction, is not to forgive and erase, it's still lost time, but at least, no further loss"
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Next step of evolution
6 months 5 days ago
"Okay, it's just another random topic, once a friend mentioned to me, if humans were to evolve, on a physical plan of course, like i.e, from ape to you know... like what we are now, not that i believe in that insane theory, but just to get to the topic, we do evolve everything, the mix of DNA and all, sometimes brings people who are slightly or definitely far beyond the norms, and my friend mentioned that, the next step of human evolution, would be, that they will be come deaf or have a really reduced audible senses, due to the amount of noise pollution, but my point is, i was wondering, in terms of era, or, in physical terms, what do you guys think will be the next step of evolution??my joke : next step of evolution, people will be walking nake along streets as if it's normal
my real view of how the world could evolve in the following, 10 or 20 or 30 years is ... well, other than having high tech cellulars and mp4s, wife cheating on guys or vis versa becoming normal trend, or more trouble minded child, due to the generation of parents growing around, i can't see so far
so share your views ... how do you believe societies, the world, humans, will be within the coming or after 100 years?"
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Newlywed Wife Sells Husband’s PS3 for Fun
6 months 5 days ago
"DIVORCE, but it's weird, cause i wouldn't have married her to start with, it would have been obvious that the girl ... wait, if she did hide her game that far, oh well, i say again, DIVORCE, just a console? make me laugh, if it's just a console, then try to sell her wedding stuffs or all her clothes she don't use for money, as payback, and see what she does!imagine, tomorrow, you're a father, and you spend more time with your child than the wife, and the wife decide to throw the kid away or sell to replace this gap of affection she's been missing on, seriously, it's not even moral, because
she didn't even ask before selling
she didn't even make it clear that she needed money or
that she wasn't feeling nice about the PS3 taking all the attention of the husband
she didn't even give all the money back to the guy
she sold one's property to buy her something that "only she" can use
if someone can say it was just a console, either it's a rich guy, or insane, but come to think, you need to be insane to be rich, and vise versa!"
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A world without religion?
6 months 5 days ago
"2 quotes i have before starting to reply"faith is a passionate intuition" and "if religious people could be reasoned, there would be no religious people"
it's sick of me to admit, but, if this world had no religion, human (hey am just stating my point, anyone free to throw rock or whatever, i'll just )(!%@$! back) would have no other way to believe that struggling is worth even when the score is 0 - 100 and when the match is like 2 seconds before it ends, if there was no religion, there would be no way for people to hide the bad things they do, the sins, and everything, so, nope, religion is like, an art to help people believe that they are right even when wrong, and if that was to disappear, which is totally impossible, since humans like so much stuffs about lies and all, fairy tales, miracles, who doesn't?? other than me i meant, but about the part, where people are losing faith, i didn't lose faith, i just didn't believe, and i know the type of people you mean, hmm still i am not judging and just stating what i believe to be true from what i've seen, heard, felt around!
but it would be (lol fairy) nice, to imagine a world without religion, if that was to happen, then it would mean, humanity has reached another step in evolution, and that a man alone is able to stand on his own feet and move, without having to hear someone else tell him "you can move, stand", and if man was to reach that step, i can dream of the much humanity would do, which we could have done in these last decades, instead of wasting resources, time, every Sundays, when these could be allocated for better, i don't think it's needed to go to church if you want to help your brothers, you could just do it, simply, then it would be pure and real generosity, not a generosity backed up by religion or faith and such!"
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ESP!!!
6 months 5 days ago
" I'd like to see this, (just my point), cause i believe firmly that when something has reached it's final form, it can't keep on evolving, everything got a limit, and if such people could manage to exist in a world so limited to, the need to have religion or other forms of useless pleasure, it'd be ... great or bad, i don't know, but i can tell, that moving an object with mind power, teleporting, are impossible, maybe to the limit, improve your body's potential, like hear a bit further, see further ahead, or even, foresee events, but nothing as extravagant as the kind of skills of manipulating fire or such, there are people who walk on fire, just to back up my theory, that it's just about extending the body's limit, nothing like "change", cause all what humans have been doing so far, is always about pushing the limit lines, right? that's all that can be done with the current state of things"View
Everyone hate Susaku?
7 months 1 week ago
"my my, i totally understand you, it did somehow feel the same, hmm would be fun to know which are the characters you hated though, i hated Kallen, cause in the end it was just about her body, to me, her personality is just like those other anime girls who falls for the hero and bla bla bla, i hated Shirley, they made her personality look quite empty too, that kid Rolo, cause he ended being manipulated so easily psychologically, people with psychological traumas don't get used this way, pfff they make it sound so logical and so straight, what is straight and logic about a trauma? I did hate a little C.C around end of season 1, a witch who lived so many years can barely have feeling, even me who lived 20 years i got so sick and tired that i got almost numb to everything, >____< what kept me stick to code geass then, the plot, the turn of events, which showed how life can be mean, and the actions of Lelouch and Susaku which even if planned, always hold a variable, which is a fact of real life, humans can't be manipulated so easily, and of course i don't agree so much with the beautiful ending, a world made of so many people who did allow racism and so many wars like that, how can they just turn into some peaceful civilisation through someone's death, but that's just my point, i still did appreciate the anime, like i mentioned in the start of the thread, the only thing that bugged me mainly, and which bugs me with almost all animes lately, it's this need to put e scenes thinking it's a "must" or something into modern animes, and then, instead of putting efforts in the right scene, they turn out to be lazy scenes while they put emphasis to show anatomies of such and such, what a life"
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Do you believe in next life ?
8 months 2 weeks ago
"First I can't help, i want to argue with this, suppose, i create, two objects, identical to the nearest atom, they will be both different still, why? because, they were made at different time intervals, yep, the time they were created is different, and what if two persons do them identically at the same time? then they would be different such that they were made by two different persons even if they are exact copies, they still are different, cause the energy used by the two will differ, precision differ, and so on, so how can we say that life repeats? every details? 90s didn't last, nor 80s, we don't still have cars doing lot of smokes or using wood to light up fire, people can't be living the same thing, and deja vu, might be just an aspect of the hidden capacities of the human brain, that's all, nothing related with afterlife, it might be just the memory of the body, or whatever you want, but i definitely disagree that there are things that can repeat, else what's the worth of being individuals? where was even the word born of? and when i see every people trying to look the same, following the trend, how sad, we are different it's a fact, everything is different, one more thing, possibilities are endless, same as possibilities of being wrong, being part of a bigger stuff, and so on, then why limiting ourselves to such eeerh, "human" theories? lol, okay okay, i see you coming, yes am human, but what am meaning, it's not like earth was created by magic or that evolution, as mentioned happened like "bang" am smart now, someone, something, or several things, might have played a role behind, then why limit ourselves to human conclusions as afterlife, or such? is it the far as the human creativity can go? can't it be something deeper? i mean seriously, look at us, we are always asking questions, about life and all, and coming with x and y answers, which is a proof that, 1. the answer isn't within our reach, 2. that life was made such a way that all of this will be hidden to us, i don't believe we are enough stupid to hide our own past or creation, but in no way i did mention a god or something, am just mentioning facts and logicnow about MrStrife, gosh, i admire, respect and, i can't even say how much i did love your post, it's totally clear, straight clean, exactly the plain truth as people usually refuse to admit (that point stands only to me :P) the 2nd part, about god, *thumbs up* seriously, why always living in such a way as if ... i never got that, i mean, we got knowledge and all, so why not try to live a proper life, don't need to sing around or such to "show" (as if it's a job or something to show in our life that we can be good) that we are good willed, it's suppose to be inner, from what we learn we can differentiate good from evil even if those are big terms as i usually say myself, good and evil don't exist, we create or rather definte them.
but back to the subject, there are sure things that can't be explain, but no such as afterlife, maybe something more complex, not yet within the grasp of our understanding, not something as easy as afterlife, it's easier to run, like it's always said, always easier to run and believe in easy escape routes than making it up here alone and bear what it takes to stand, what i'd like to leave for all you guys here, make the best of your life, don't measure whether you made the best of it, just feel it that you did live the best of it, and what happens after that, will happen, what has to be done now, shall be done now, that's how i think life should have been from the start ..."
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Do you believe in next life ?
8 months 3 weeks ago
"@~nagatoboi talking about sense and senseless, first of all, i want to say, nothing got a sense in this life, world, universe, the being is the one that makes sense of what surrounds him, so, if for you, all what you did was senseless if there's no afterlife, what you did in that life could become senseless for the ones living tomorrow, why not think of it in that way?"View
Do you believe in next life ?
8 months 3 weeks ago
"@~kzhr isn't it a bit selfish? sorry to be straight, no offense meant, but, "try other possibilities" is an excuse for us to do anything good or bad in this life, and hope to do other good and bad things in another life, looking for other possibilities, then why not try to make out of the best possibilities already in this life? i'll pick some extreme but logical example, a chicken, is breed, then killed and used as food in one life, reborned, it would be the same thing, don't you think it would be the same for human? if you were to born again, you'd just do the same thing, cause, even if your life change, if you believe in afterlife, then it means souls exist, and if souls exist, then it means your soul won't change in another life, numbers, letters, they don't change, they evolve, when i add "c" "a" "k" "e" it becomes cake, not 32, it evolves, it gets a meaning, meaning that we humans defined, chosen for, so if this life was chosen for us to prove something, then it's the only, you don't have several chances to do a cake properly, once missed, it's missed, that's all!"View
Do you believe in next life ?
8 months 3 weeks ago
" i read this, and i felt i had to add something, hmm just my way of thinking, so please don't take it as some sort of attack or trying to prove something, i've always told myself, that god doesn't exist, but that man couldn't have evolved this much in so few, yeah, i really believe it's too few, and even if it was longer, it's too weird that man got this far, so i tell myself, maybe, a form of life existed before, and still does, or managed someway to influence life, but not worth to be called god, just a form of life that we can't understand or, a form of life who entertain itself by using his abilities and created life or so, but reading that made me realize, that even if god exist, he/she/it wouldn't be different, i mean, if you had power? i mean, as god had, and a level of understanding, would you go as far as creating life and a planet? or stars and such? isn't it a bit too much of coincidence that everything was born exactly where it had to be for a specific purpose? coincidence doesn't exist, only inevitability, one of my favorite quote, so i think, life, and whatever is behind it, is just some enormous game, a really enormous game that we can't grasp, so we end believing in afterlife and anything for, other than working, another nature of man, is to hang and grip tight to any sign of hope, even when it's out of sense!"View
Do you believe in next life ?
8 months 3 weeks ago
"I just read some replies, and here are my thoughts i'd like to shareI second this thought, for i believe, this world, humans, everything, is based on an enormous amount of lies, or uncertainties, and due to these, first of all, you can't say what is true or not, and second, you can't confirm that all the legends, or things we think are true or not, aren't just born from human fear, or other emotions, cause yes, we are in a world of humans, where mostly, every fact, figures or whatever, is born from human emotions or mind, and sadly, we weren't at this stage of evolution 500, 1000 years ago, so who can tell, that heaven, and such, aren't creations of people who feared death or who wanted to live further? cause wasn't it, one of the main fantasy of man? eternal life? some people can turn around words and say, when you burn a paper, it becomes dust, and that dust scatters, so it can be the same for man, that is when they die, they exist in another form, but, i saw a rat dead on a street once, everyday, cars kept running on it, until it disappeared, yep, it dries under the sun, and disappears, totally, back to the paper example, when it burns burns and turns completly into dust, that's the end, it exist no more, and even if it exist in dust, that dust isn't the paper, it's dust, full stop, so why believe in another life? why not accept once and for all that there are things which can be attempt only once, people claim that we have several lives, then, it would mean we can die several times? no logic on my point, but all these aside, i did like and shall quote one reply
here again, questions about afterlife and such, are just born from irrational fears, it's like, i put a paper in front of you, and you're worried about if you'll have more paper to write further, why not try to make the best use of the paper in front of you already? you're given life, make a sense of it before thinking about existing in another lifeform, but, the topic itself was, if we believe in entities, so, hmm to reply to that, actually, i got to admit, there are some energy, for sure that we can't measure, but to go as far to claim that a spirit, can exist in that kind of energy, i don't think, nature or physic is that far perverted as human mind
if we look at it that way, everything around, opportunities, events, chains, are supposed to be a lead of fair events, where's the fair if some do have the right to live further and some not? is it fair to have one top to decide of it? then how about our right to decide? to be aware? the most funny part of it is, people do live fearing of what it would cost them tomorrow, aren't we suppose to be living in a way that the cost we pay today ensures our tomorrow? so a lot end going to church, claiming they've seen this and that, lived through this and that, to ensure there path to heaven or purgatory or such, and the few that do really believe in religion, they get manipulated by that category of people, life is just a mess created of lies, and so much more, why bother about all these? it's not like, we can't bring back all the lies to light can we? shouldn't we focus on creating something that could erase all what's behind? and make what's ahead worth everything else, i think the world would be better if people could think that way, but i've seen much in this short life, and why i can say, believing, is a big word, for the only thing people believe nowadays is in their body impulses not in their mind!"
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Everyone hate Susaku?
10 months 3 weeks ago
"@ Lelouch - O : well, it's not totally out of reason, what you said, he sold Lelouch for these reasons1. He lied on his identity
2. cause many death and sufferings that Susaku had witness
3 He was the reason of the death of the only one he developed some close feelings to
if tomorrow, you learn that your best friend went to pub, and while on his/her way home, totally drunk, did hit a member of your family or someone close to you, won't you hate him/her? it would be a lie of course if you say no, it is obvious you'd feel hate towards the irresponsibility, and so on, like i said, most of the reasons for which people hate Susaku are justified, and that's what makes it weird, if it was for something like ... I don't know, like he did something that had no reason behind, like something just to bring down Lelouch for fun, then i would say, yeah that guy is stupid, and needed to be out of that anime or stuff, but it never was so, all what he did, was always hiding a deep reason to"
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Everyone hate Susaku?
10 months 3 weeks ago
"@ jxmode : an offtopic reply from me, is I agree with you, I hated shirley too, for she is too much like those anime girls, falling for the main character and stupidly acting as you expect from an anime girl, if you see what i mean, she didn't have a heavy personality, and even when her memory came back to her, her actions were really illogical, but back to the topic, true most are Lelouch supporters, which quite get me a bit annoyed, because just cause you like one side doesn't meant you need to full throttle hate the other side, i mean, i saw many animes, where there are good side and bad side, i don't remember anyone who watched superman saying "i hate Lex lutor" or anyone who watched Dragon ball Z saying "i hate freezer" or "Vegeta", while here, it was really irrational the hate of people towards Susaku, so i kinda feel disappointed that the audience would fall for such trick and still be keening for animes which turns around half nake girls and e moments instead of making the best of such well developed characters"View
Everyone hate Susaku?
10 months 3 weeks ago
"1st of all @ Mikaru-rusuhu-rai07 : sorry to tell you this, but it ain't allow to post pictures in threads, read the FAQand you said Susaku was "stupid", note that there is a big difference between being stupid, and having different point of views, you can't just say someone is stupid because he or she thinks that the glass is half empty while on your side you think that it's half full
so back to the topic, on a certain point of view, it's true that it's annoying that he kept sticking to his concept, but Lelouch did to his too, and if everyone forgot, Lelouch gave up once and turned to Susaku, for help, in season 2, but nobody ever mention that point, that once in the serie, Lelouch admitted that he has done a wrong move and that Susaku only could help restore things, and he could have, if had been more clever and careful about his moves as Lelouch was, that was the main difference
I got to admit guys, i can't understand really from your points, what is to hate about him, when someone got divergence with you, you ignore him after a while, and not look for reasons to hate him, and it seems you all try desperately to point out reasons to hate him where there aren't >___<"
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Everyone hate Susaku?
10 months 3 weeks ago
"Reply to vengefulspirit99 : i am aware of that theory, but the hatred towards Susaku wasn't the same as you'd hate a vilain, that was why i tried to emphasis the "why", for it's kinda weird, example, death note, the story was on Kira, yet many did prefer L than Kira, even if Kira was the main character, so, here again, there's some irrational deep hatred directed towards Susaku, and would really wish that people who do hate Susaku, think over again about the reasons they do, not because am a fan of Susaku, but i just love the anime, and found it sad, that not everyone manage to appreciate both characters to their true value!"View